Weston Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 19c. Fact. Lol, The person who told me does not post on TSW and AO reads only. He has never posted. Thought it funny when he left that he was still reading us. May be now we know why. Well done AO.
Foxy Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Chief Operating Officer, not CEO. South Today also mentioned (hinted?) that Nicola Cortese might have a role, perhaps he will be CEO? Full interview with Fry later on http://www.bbc.co.uk\southtoday I suspect Nicola (who is a banker according to OS) will have been a broker in the deal, merchant banker in our terms and hand over to whoever Markus wants to run the show
Mole Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 God that would really pi## off the staff . I do hope you are wrong. Managers aren't payed to be liked. He probably took some lazy idle dossers out of their comfort zone.
latter day saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Just been confirmed Andy Oldknow will be COO have you turned into a pidgeon? or were you trying to say he would be cool?
washsaint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 If AO did indeed bring Liebherr to Saints then, quite frankly, he deserves a role. Being nice does not guarantee succes in business.......Branson, despite his public persona, is a really nasty piece of work. At least Ao won't be pandering to the fans...which can only be a good thing.
Thedelldays Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 At least Ao won't be pandering to the fans...which can only be a good thing. absolutely
saints_is_the_south Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Oldknow says plans already being formulated for management teams on & off the pitch.
Thedelldays Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Oldknow says plans already being formulated for management teams on & off the pitch. wooohooooo sounds good
wild-saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Well at least all the usual suspects will have something to moan and whine about.
CB Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 You never know, ML may have recognised the strengths that AO has and is going to restrict his remit to that. As for man management - If he is poor here hire someone who is good at it. Everyone has weaknesses. The trick is identifying what they are and doing something about it. Until the rest of the board / Team ML is announced is it going to be difficult to determine what he is going to be upto. Alternatively, it could be a short term appointment for continuity purposes whilst ML gets a grip on what is going on. Who better to tell you what the issues are than someone who has been in amongst it before.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I had my share of "run-ins" with Andy Oldknow over the time he was here and I know the staff weren't keen but I think a lot of the problems originated with Jim Hone. I have to say he was very accommodating with the Ron Davies appeal and did I think he had a passion about the club - we certainly had a few late night discussions! Plus if he was instrumental in bringing in our Swiss saviour then perhaps we owe him big time!
Isla Wight Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Well if Mr Oldknow is returning & if he does read this forum my message to you is this. From the one and only time I met and spoke with you (shortly after your arrival) you came across as rather condescending, smug and full of your own importance. You also seemed rather dismissive of fans views. I do hope that you are not as bad as the impression that you gave but time will tell. Today is the dawn of a new era for Saints. Despite my reservatiosn I wish you every success in your new post.
gonzo Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 We're in no position to argue with our new owner. If he wants to bring somebody in, then he will. Frankly, I'm just pleased our club has survived.
ladysaint Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Posted 8 July, 2009 I was unaware that he had anything to do with the Swiss deal, I was just suprised to see him back, he wasnt popular in his short term here but willing to accept that he has helped us in our hour of need. I think I was just expecting a clean sweep and with no returning directors.
John B Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 . You also seemed rather dismissive of fans views. Good I like that Get on with the job get a good team together and everything will be Ok
The Sholing Shadow Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 If this is true, he'll do for me. Anyone with the strength we want in that job will say what they think and stand up for it anyway. Treading on people's toes tens to indicate you've actually got some ideas and drive.
NickG Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Well thats MLs first mistake. I hope there won't be too many more. Oldknow is a **** and the last thing the the much tested staff at SMS need. a **** who just saved our club ffs.
Mr Nice Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 So if he is operating officer does that mean there would be a chief executive above him ?
NickG Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 just watched his sky interview again. He came across very well. Talked about the negotiations and dealing with Fry etc - sounds like he has been very hands on in getting this sorted. Said he met Wotte for a hour today and am meeting him next week to hear his views on what is needed to get promotion
GenevaSaint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Managers aren't payed to be liked. He probably took some lazy idle dossers out of their comfort zone. Quite possibly right there Mole....
Ponty Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Brilliant. Well, that spell of fan unity on here lasted all of 4 hours. Blinding.
sadoldgit Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Great we have had a new owner for 5 minutes and already we have a new hate figure to replace Lowe. Still, it should keep Alpine busy!
Thedelldays Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 oldknow out ffs i will not step foot in sms until he leaves the club
CB Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 At the end of the day the new Boss didn't create a huge company by appointing idiots - I would guess that he is a pretty good judge of character and he likes what he sees in Andy. One option is that ML has had a good look and the internal workings of the club, thinks it could be done much better and needs some big and quick changes made. If, as many say on here, AO is a complete B4ast4rd then he could well be perfect. For me what is important is to get the front of house sorted quickly i.e. the team. That is the most pressing concern.
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Brilliant. Well, that spell of fan unity on here lasted all of 4 hours. Blinding. I know, I had to chuckle!!! we have just been saved for f#@ks sake!!!!!!!!! Well chuffed that I have a team to support next season!!!!!
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 oldknow out ffs i will not step foot in sms until he leaves the club lol!!!!!!
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Oh please no ! Have had dealings in a work capacity. He never let ignorance of the facts stand in his way in having an opinion on something. 'Kinell! He'd fit in well on here then!
NickG Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 oldknow out ffs i will not step foot in sms until he leaves the club at least it will give people a new excuse not to go if we are not winning;)
CB Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Brilliant. Well, that spell of fan unity on here lasted all of 4 hours. Blinding. LOL. Classic
John B Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Brilliant. Well, that spell of fan unity on here lasted all of 4 hours. Blinding. Yes but it made me really laugh
Saint Billy Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Congrats Mr Oldknow. Many thanks for the part you played in the survival of SFC. I wish you success in your new role which in turn will hopefully bring us all success as fans of SFC!. Mines a pint of HSB please!
alpine_saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Would have preferred a clean sweep, but if he really was match-maker in the deal, reckon he deserves another chance. A lot less baggage than the Beetroot-faced one, of course...........
StInky Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I have to say he was very accommodating with the Ron Davies appeal His support and personal involvement ensured the success of the "Ron Davies Day" at SMS. I wish him well.
manji Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Managers aren't payed to be liked. He probably took some lazy idle dossers out of their comfort zone. Exactly and not likely to be a fan-panderer either(which is a good thing).
saintjay77 Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 from what i remember he made a right royal tit of himself last time round but like others have said, if he has had a hand in getting us rescued then well done. hope this time things go better for us and in turn AO then great. The less I hear from the new board the happier I will be though. Dont want celebraties in there. Just people who can steer our club in the right direction.
manji Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 The old Saints Trust board (including Steve Grant, Ladysaint, Exit2 and Steve Godwin) got to know him quite well! If he ****ed off that lot hes got my vote !
Saints Pedro Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 How will his role as COO differ from his previous job?
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 At the end of the day the new Boss didn't create a huge company by appointing idiots - I would guess that he is a pretty good judge of character and he likes what he sees in Andy. One option is that ML has had a good look and the internal workings of the club, thinks it could be done much better and needs some big and quick changes made. If, as many say on here, AO is a complete B4ast4rd then he could well be perfect. For me what is important is to get the front of house sorted quickly i.e. the team. That is the most pressing concern. Nail on head. Seems as our saviour is putting together a business structure. Also don't think that these guys will get away with poor performance - no business I know will put up with poor performance at that level, COO's are responsible for the operation delivering.
exit2 Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 The old Saints Trust board (including Steve Grant, Ladysaint, Exit2 and Steve Godwin) got to know him quite well! I never met Oldknow when with the trust and you should know If he ****ed off that lot hes got my vote ! yawn!
exit2 Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Plus if he was instrumental in bringing in our Swiss saviour then perhaps we owe him big time! I agree with that!
Mole Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 If he ****ed off that lot hes got my vote ! Joking aside (well i know you're not joking really;)) if AO being at the club means the Saints Trust won't be listened to then it is a good thing.
Joensuu Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 Bringing Andy back should help the new team get their feet under the table, and hit the ground running. It's not as if we have a vast amount of time to prepare for next season.
David Strover Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I think people on here should stop telling the club who to employ and in what position and start doing their job - supporting the Saints. If this chap is good enough for the new owner he's good enough for me.
Chez Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I hope ML will be more hands on than is being indictaed on here. We desperately need strong powerful leadership and it is ML that has demonstrated that (I assume he nust have to have made all that wedge) not AO.
wightman35 Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I think people on here should stop telling the club who to employ and in what position and start doing their job - supporting the Saints. If this chap is good enough for the new owner he's good enough for me. YES. But I don't think every poster will share your and my view! :smt073:smt073:smt073:smt073:smt073
nickfinks Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 We're in no position to argue with our new owner. If he wants to bring somebody in, then he will. Frankly, I'm just pleased our club has survived. well said that man, in the swiss roll I trust
Toomer Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I hope that this is not true the man was hated by every member of staff at SMS the bloke thinks his is something he is not.
homesick-saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted 8 July, 2009 I think people on here should stop telling the club who to employ and in what position and start doing their job - supporting the Saints. If this chap is good enough for the new owner he's good enough for me. couldn't agree more
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