Arizona Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I had a bit of a re-read of this thread tonight; some interesting views in here and definitely worth reading, so thought I would give it a bit of a bump. Keeping aside some of the strange views that we should have got rid of Adam (and Morgan as well), it was an interesting reminder to me of the player that Adam was last season. It is remarkable the amount of progress he has made in just a few short months, which would indicate the amount of progress that he can still make if he stays on the same path. That said, I am a bit nervous about January coming around and the sharks circulating. I have to put my hands up and say I was wrong about Lallana to an extent. He's always had the tallent on the ball, but no end product. This season he seems to have turned that around, so fair play to him. It would also be unfair to have a dig at people for their posts on this thread, which was created under a completely different context months ago. It was created on the back of what was a very disappointing season for AL and he had apparently claimed to want out. Makes you think though. If just having the quality players around them, a good manager and stable board has done this much for Lallana and Schneiderlin, imagine how good players like Surman, DMG, Dyer and Skacel could have been too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 (edited) So do you think Southampton FC has enough pull to keep him here if a premier team comes knocking in Jan ? Edited 3 December, 2009 by Saint Bones Notta Maka No Sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 So do you the Southampton FC has enough pull to keep him here if a premier team comes knocking in Jan ? I reckon it will depend on the player rather than the club. Will he (Lallana) want to stay or bench warm a premiership club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I reckon it will depend on the player rather than the club. Will he (Lallana) want to stay or bench warm a premiership club? Reckon that the chance of prem football and of course £20 -30k week ought to do the trick. Lallana will stay if he thinks we can go up this season. If not, the prospect of other L1 season and at least 2 in the CCC will be enough to see him on his way. Three years is a long time to wait if you are that young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 where the hell did this come from..? Try six months ago, when Lallana did want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Le Taxi Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Glad i didnt post on that thread back in July, Id be eating my words now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Not sure if he has lost his way or if he is still learning his game, the one thing that is obvious is that the lad has talent and is young. The goal at QPR is still etched in my memory. I Am Legend. Seems all Adam needed was a proper manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Try six months ago, when Lallana did want to leave. FFS..there should be a mandatory retirement for threads older than 5 months,if you ask me :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 So do you the Southampton FC has enough pull to keep him here if a premier team comes knocking in Jan ? Hopefully he will be sensible and stay until the end of the season at least. If not we should demand at least £5m for him anyway so it wouldn't be a great loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Laughable posts really... Indeed. After all we all had our crystal balls in at the Crystal Ball Service Station at the time, didnt we ??? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 FFS..there should be a mandatory retirement for threads older than 5 months,if you ask me :S Or a mandatory requirement to read the dates on the posts so one can deduce that someone has resurrected an old topic for valid reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Which reminds me.....what WAS the full story behind the NAMG 'scam' episode in 2007....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 He won't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Think we will be ok, as for arizona, this isn't the worst post that could have been brought up, i remember a couple about his ability, some of the posts on there were pretty shocking. Still, nice to see J Bizzle voice of footballing reason and only SWF poster to ever play the game was speaking out of his *rse. I don't think he will leave, he seems to love the saints, fair play to him. Another thing to consider is his sell on clause, 25% to bournemouth that will take a dent out of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Can we edit the title on this thread?! I've seen it about 10 times today and thought SH*T!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 close this thread-hes happy-skates on a wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 close this thread-hes happy-skates on a wind up Or maybe read the thread fully? Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I started reading this thread without noticing the dates and it just shows how much opinions can change, but maybe that's because his performances have changed. Whether that is down to the manager, coaching, atmosphere at the club or the attitude of the player is open to question, or maybe he is more suited to playing in a lower league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Just stolen this: He scores with his left, he scores with his riiiight....That boy Lallana, makes Drogba look $hite!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Just stolen this: He scores with his left, he scores with his riiiight....That boy Lallana, makes Drogba look $hite!! I've stolen your arcade gold medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I've stolen your arcade gold medal. That was my last one too, god is being such a biach at the moment :smt089 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I reckon it will depend on the player rather than the club. Will he (Lallana) want to stay or bench warm a premiership club? Yeah, you're right. The club doesn't need to sell, and he won't want to warm a Prem bench. He will stay (I say confidently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Get rid of him we need men to get out this league not pansys like him. If we can get rid of Schneiderlin as well this could turn into a top summer. \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Yeah, you're right. The club doesn't need to sell, and he won't want to warm a Prem bench. He will stay (I say confidently). The club may not need to sell but cant he leave for nothing when his contract ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 New policy at Saints....Player signs contract and 5 years is inserted afterwards.. Only for the best players of course..AL still has 4 years left on his contract. In anycase he wants to stay and play for a world class team. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 New policy at Saints....Player signs contract and 5 years is inserted afterwards.. Only for the best players of course..AL still has 4 years left on his contract. In anycase he wants to stay and play for a world class team. COYRs Any idea when his contract ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 That was my last one too, god is being such a biach at the moment :smt089 Times are hard, I see some royal harpist or other got done for robbery and heroin use today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Any idea when his contract ends? Sorry...Wishful thinking...Hopefully at least 2/3 years by which time we could be pushing for the really big boyzz league and he will stay and play for us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Sorry...Wishful thinking...Hopefully at least 2/3 years by which time we could be pushing for the really big boyzz league and he will stay and play for us.. I thought it was ending in 2011 if it is there is a risk he will leave without us getting much for him. But of course he may stay like Stern John;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I thought it was ending in 2011 I think you're right http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_4065920,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I think you're right http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_4065920,00.html So any idea what happens then can he leave on a Bosman or do we get compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 If a player under 24 leaves at the end of their contract the club gets compensation if not it's a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 If a player under 24 leaves at the end of their contract the club gets compensation if not it's a free transfer. Any idea how much? If it is low and he wants to leave the club would have an interesting problem whether to keep him or lose a wad of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Any idea how much? If it is low and he wants to leave the club would have an interesting problem whether to keep him or lose a wad of money It goes to a tribunal, depends how good the player is. For Craine we got 400k and Leon Best was 750k. I guess for Lallana we'd get 2-3m, maybe a bit more. Like with every other club in the world, if he wants to leave we will sell him. Doesn't matter how much money a club has if a player wants to leave, just need to look at Ronaldo and United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 December, 2009 didnt leeds get £1m for lennon..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 didnt leeds get £1m for lennon..? Don't think that was a tribunal, I think Leeds where just skint maybe even in admin at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 It goes to a tribunal, depends how good the player is. For Craine we got 400k and Leon Best was 750k. I guess for Lallana we'd get 2-3m, maybe a bit more. Like with every other club in the world, if he wants to leave we will sell him. Doesn't matter how much money a club has if a player wants to leave, just need to look at Ronaldo and United. Thanks for that I realise that players will leave if they want to but I was just wondering whether SFC would sell Lallana to get the best possible price. If he is going to leave perhaps it maybe better to sell him early and use the funds received to enhance the team - a difficult call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Thanks for that I realise that players will leave if they want to but I was just wondering whether SFC would sell Lallana to get the best possible price. If he is going to leave perhaps it maybe better to sell him early and use the funds received to enhance the team - a difficult call If he wants to stay we should keep him no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 We have the finances to keep all our best players. Trying to persuade them that their future is with us and achieving promotion is the key to keeping him. Lallana is probably the shock of the season in terms of my expectations, I doubt he'd go in January (and I hope he doesn't twice as much), but if we're not up in May, trying to persuade him to stay with us for another League One year could prove tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 If a player under 24 leaves at the end of their contract the club gets compensation if not it's a free transfer. No they don't. Only if the player is offered less or equal terms in respect to pay. A tribunal i believe only happens for players under 21 ?? I think... I may be wrong, if so i apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 No they don't. Only if the player is offered less or equal terms in respect to pay. A tribunal i believe only happens for players under 21 ?? I think... I may be wrong, if so i apologise It's definatly 24 but you're right about having to offer them a contract, although in Lallana's case it's fairly obvious we'd offer him a new deal. Anyone half decent just gets offered the same deal they where on so the club can get a bit of money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Can we edit the title on this thread?! I've seen it about 10 times today and thought SH*T!!!!!!! Totally agree - title is very deceptive ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningtonCrescent Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Hey Matt (Battersea!), how are ya?! I knew someone would find this thread again and show up a few of the "regulars" on this board for the fickle fans they are! Perhaps this is a good example of why we should ALL give players a bit more encouragement, rather than slating them at each and every slip up they may make?! Yes, they earn good money to play - but we can all have off days at work. Lallana had shown he can knuckle down and be an essential part of our team. Other players also show fantastic potential and yet we (some of "us") still slate them without really understanding the problem (look at poor old Waigo - getting the wrath of the Northam for being offside so much the other night!). Thankfully, most people have recognised that Papa is not ALWAYS the culprit with regards to the offside decisions... lets hope the Northam cut him some slack at the next home game, because those songs affected him and contributed to our best player of the evening being subbed. Must catch up sometime Matt - you attending London games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Was this thread resurrected to prove how many feckwits inhabit the forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 Makes you think though. If just having the quality players around them, a good manager and stable board has done this much for Lallana and Schneiderlin, imagine how good players like Surman, DMG, Dyer and Skacel could have been too. very interesting thought. Not sure how much I'd want them back. Surman yes, but the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 very interesting thought. Not sure how much I'd want them back. Surman yes, but the others? I thought McGoldrick did well the second half of the season; not quite sure where he would play in the current set-up? A front four of Waigo, Lambert, McG, Lallana looks quite tasty though. I posted after Southend that a left-side of Harding and Skacel would be half-decent with Lallana playing behind and around Lambert (that's Skacel the occaisionally very good left winger, not Skacel the half-arsed LB). I liked Surman but where would he play in the current team, right back would be a decent shout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 Was this thread resurrected to prove how many feckwits inhabit the forum... I really don't care how many feckwits inhabit this forum... the reason I resurrected it is for exactly the reasons I said in my original bumping post... "Keeping aside some of the strange views that we should have got rid of Adam (and Morgan as well), it was an interesting reminder to me of the player that Adam was last season. It is remarkable the amount of progress he has made in just a few short months, which would indicate the amount of progress that he can still make if he stays on the same path. That said, I am a bit nervous about January coming around and the sharks circulating." I think it is a very valid comparison to see what people think of him now, and a worthy discussion point. Hence why I bumped. Apologies to anyone who was confused by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 Hopefully he will be sensible and stay until the end of the season at least. If not we should demand at least £5m for him anyway so it wouldn't be a great loss. Helloooo - that was last year.................5m you are joking???????????????? If we were to sell and IF he ever wanted to go and IF we did consider it it has to be 10m or no thought even. Bur even then..........we are o a mission here and AL is a very important part of that plan. IF you take his goals away this year where were we be now? Money can't buy a player of his tallent and 5M wouldn't buy you his socks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 just been claimed on Talksport Does anyone know if this is a credible statement.? Is Talksport a reliable source ? Have they done a interview with AL, or has he told a journo he wants to leave ..........or ............or ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 3 December, 2009 Share Posted 3 December, 2009 I really don't care how many feckwits inhabit this forum... the reason I resurrected it is for exactly the reasons I said in my original bumping post... "Keeping aside some of the strange views that we should have got rid of Adam (and Morgan as well), it was an interesting reminder to me of the player that Adam was last season. It is remarkable the amount of progress he has made in just a few short months, which would indicate the amount of progress that he can still make if he stays on the same path. That said, I am a bit nervous about January coming around and the sharks circulating." I think it is a very valid comparison to see what people think of him now, and a worthy discussion point. Hence why I bumped. Apologies to anyone who was confused by this. Is it just me or have you ever heard of tempting fate, think this thread should be locked for good. Now lets please forget about it and move onto another subject please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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