BotleySaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 If the sky sports article is true then he's an idiot for refusing the play. We should be looking for at least a million for him and he probably hasn't done enough in his 'illustrious career' so far to warrant that price-tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I doubt this information is totally accurate and if anything maybe one of teh biggest reasons we are heading down the toilet as a country is the obsession with rumour' date=' gossip and hearsay which is too often treated as fact. Weston knows he family well, and I have met them at SMS, down to earth normal decent folk and unlikely to have installed taht kind of attitude in a decent young bloke... Seems to me its this kind of comment that might lead young playesr to want away - the moment they have a bad spell we knock them down after building them up... Adams poorer performances I appreciate what you are saying Frank, but I'd been told by someone on the fringes of their social circle that Adam was regularly out on the lash last season on Thursday nights before games with Drew and Pulis in Bournemouth... That's hardly going to improve performances either is it? I'm sure his family are very supportive and great people - in my opinion they are the people he should be listening to - not agents after a quick buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I appreciate what you are saying Frank, but I'd been told by someone on the fringes of their social circle that Adam was regularly out on the lash last season on Thursday nights before games with Drew and Pulis in Bournemouth... That's hardly going to improve performances either is it? I'm sure his family are very supportive and great people - in my opinion they are the people he should be listening to - not agents after a quick buck. If true, then he deserves a big telling off...privately, because those things although normal for young blokes, do effect your development as an athlete and player... If he has an isue with Wotte they need to sit down and sort it out, but the media and agent pressures interfere too often for normal rational service to resume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I reckon he ought to prove himself here before going elsewhere as it will be better for his development and future value in the longer term. I agree. He is a long way from being ready for the Premiership and a long (and by that I mean playing lots of games) season with us in League 1 would not do him any harm at all. Commons' prospects and status were not harmed at all by his stint in League 1 and the same would apply to Lallana. It seems like a backwards step but in actual fact his development will prosper as Mills, Monk and many other young players have done when stepping down a DIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSFC Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 **** him..... Trust delldays to picjk out the only bad news. Should of throttled the little dweeb when i had a pop at him in Buddha lounge. Fair play to Kelvin Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 McClaggon will soon be the star young player. As long as his hereditary Achilles injury does not effect his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 read his post, its shows a lack of knowledge from start to finish IMO.an apology would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 What a ridiculous attitude. Would you call Messi a pansy as well? He is a f*cking weakling. Ridiculous to say we don't need a bottler like Lallana in the side but perfectly ok to compare him to the best player in the world. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Perhaps lallanas people complained that Wotte had bene indiscreet in saying that he wouldnt play and so the new owners were not happy. The statement would make the value of the player decrease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Perhaps lallanas people complained that Wotte had bene indiscreet in saying that he wouldnt play and so the new owners were not happy. The statement would make the value of the player decrease Pssst. Theres not a Machiavellian plot behind everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Pssst. Theres not a Machiavellian plot behind everything.probably not, but read what Weston says elsewhwere and then read between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 **** him..... Trust delldays to picjk out the only bad news. Should of throttled the little dweeb when i had a pop at him in Buddha lounge. Fair play to Kelvin Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Cant understand all this fuss as all Adam wanted to do was not jump in to the first couple of friendlies having just recovered from a knee injury and get wacked on it,he is now being lined up for 45 mins against Bournemouth.Saying that if he reads half the ****e that has been written on here lately im sure he`ll wonder is it worth the hassle,it`s amazing how poisoned people can become, i feel Wotte really left him in the ****e with his comments and they have been taken completely out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Now Wotte has gone much more likely to stay imho . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Cant understand all this fuss as all Adam wanted to do was not jump in to the first couple of friendlies having just recovered from a knee injury and get wacked on it,he is now being lined up for 45 mins against Bournemouth.Saying that if he reads half the ****e that has been written on here lately im sure he`ll wonder is it worth the hassle,it`s amazing how poisoned people can become, i feel Wotte really left him in the ****e with his comments and they have been taken completely out of context.Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 an apology would be nice. Why would I offer one? Your post was complete and utter nonsense. There was no hype, he came on scored a goal at WBA and people wondered who this lad was. He got his chance the follwing season and we all just looked at each other wondering how the **** could we be so lucky as to unearth yet another gem from our academy. He showed a lot of quality. He worked his nuts off in every game. He's already tough enough and when he is not shoved out wide he sees the ball and is fully involved. He can jump and wins his fair share of headers or at the very least competes whole heartedly to prevent the opponent getting a free header. He certainly can tackle and chucked himself into many last season. The only thing you got right was his poor shooting. If the lad ****s off then you won't hear another word from me, but whilst he is still here I'm not going to let posts like yours go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why would I offer one? Your post was complete and utter nonsense. There was no hype, he came on scored a goal at WBA and people wondered who this lad was. He got his chance the follwing season and we all just looked at each other wondering how the **** could we be so lucky as to unearth yet another gem from our academy. He showed a lot of quality. He worked his nuts off in every game. He's already tough enough and when he is not shoved out wide he sees the ball and is fully involved. He can jump and wins his fair share of headers or at the very least competes whole heartedly to prevent the opponent getting a free header. He certainly can tackle and chucked himself into many last season. The only thing you got right was his poor shooting. If the lad ****s off then you won't hear another word from me, but whilst he is still here I'm not going to let posts like yours go. Good post. Given a decent manager Adam will flourish. A star in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofme Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Not a great loss ! Get as much as we can for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Bloomin heck, some of you are hard on young players. Some don't make the grade but I've seen enough players at the beginning of their careers who've had something and gone on do do good things: maybe not always at the same pace, but they've done it. Channon was quite slow to mature, you could see with Stevie Mills (RIP) immediately that he had something, the same with Bale and Walcott. Lallana is also a bit different, maybe not in the same class, but he has something about him. Give people a chance, folks, purlease.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why would I offer one? Your post was complete and utter nonsense. There was no hype, he came on scored a goal at WBA and people wondered who this lad was. He got his chance the follwing season and we all just looked at each other wondering how the **** could we be so lucky as to unearth yet another gem from our academy. He showed a lot of quality. He worked his nuts off in every game. He's already tough enough and when he is not shoved out wide he sees the ball and is fully involved. He can jump and wins his fair share of headers or at the very least competes whole heartedly to prevent the opponent getting a free header. He certainly can tackle and chucked himself into many last season. The only thing you got right was his poor shooting. If the lad ****s off then you won't hear another word from me, but whilst he is still here I'm not going to let posts like yours go. Totally agree...there is no doubt in my mind this lad will be a great player....HE has been badly managed/coached..My opinion.....He has so much raw talent....Hope we keep him here now with the right coach/manager he will thrive.... nickh has proved :smt073he could not pick a football team to save his life:smt039 COYRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Bloomin heck, some of you are hard on young players. Some don't make the grade but I've seen enough players at the beginning of their careers who've had something and gone on do do good things: maybe not always at the same pace, but they've done it. Channon was quite slow to mature, you could see with Stevie Mills (RIP) immediately that he had something, the same with Bale and Walcott. Lallana is also a bit different, maybe not in the same class, but he has something about him. Give people a chance, folks, purlease.. Yes. Spot on. Danny Wallace was another. Trouble is Lowe's youth policy has thrust these kids to the fore far too quickly and expected far too much of them. Blood them in slowly and watch them develop has always been the way. You can usually tell if they've got something about them yet it could be a couple of seasons before it starts to really come to fruition. They have to be given a proper chance to mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 If I remember correctly. someone asked Matty a few years ago who they should watch out for in the nippers, and his reply was to watch Adam. Now, the lad has plenty of skill and can turn people inside out, but can he deliver? Creating space to turn a chance into a goal for himself? Yes on the first bit, no on the second - how he can't put his foot through it with any degree of power is beyond me for a professional footballer. Can he create space to lay on a chance for a striker? Depends on the quality of striker you're paired with. A slide rule pass inside a center half is only worth it if the striker has read it, has reacted and gone. Otherwise it's out for a goal kick and we all slate him for f*cking the pass up. I don't believe the forwards we currently have will read his game (and can react accordingly enough) to get the best out of him. It's a team game, you've all got to work together. If you don't want to, then go elsewhere. So for my money, currently no loss if he goes, but there's something about how he plays that makes me want him to be a better player, or have better players around him. I keep thinking about Channon's quotes in Terry Paines biography along the lines of "If I went, the ball was delivered....". That's what I think adam could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 Why would I offer one? Your post was complete and utter nonsense. There was no hype, he came on scored a goal at WBA and people wondered who this lad was. He got his chance the follwing season and we all just looked at each other wondering how the **** could we be so lucky as to unearth yet another gem from our academy. He showed a lot of quality. He worked his nuts off in every game. He's already tough enough and when he is not shoved out wide he sees the ball and is fully involved. He can jump and wins his fair share of headers or at the very least competes whole heartedly to prevent the opponent getting a free header. He certainly can tackle and chucked himself into many last season. The only thing you got right was his poor shooting. If the lad ****s off then you won't hear another word from me, but whilst he is still here I'm not going to let posts like yours go. Originally Posted by nickh By the way Bournemouth I am told have a 25%sell on clause. We should want him to stay so we get a decent fee Originally Posted by BotleySaint I thought this was proved incorrect a few months ago.. ? Chez read his post, its shows a lack of knowledge from start to finish IMO. Dark Sotonic Mills The tribunal awarded Bournemouth a 25% clause after Saints took him from Bournemouth's Centre of Excellence Your first post was answering mine pasted above. The info is 100% accurate and full of knowledge.Yours are just opinion of a player who may or may not become decent. Refusing to play is not the start of a long career in football. Misguided perhaps but you cannot have the tail wagging the dog. He is only at present a player who was in a relegation team and failed to shine in the majorioty of games.Yes he has some flair but basic shooting skills which is important are something he is missing at present as well as other important parts of his game. I want him to stay and develop here,so the club can earn a decent fee, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1719443,00.html Has he changed his mind ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 Bratt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1719443,00.html Has he changed his mind ????? No he hasn`t because as i said earlier too many people reading or listening to utter ****e and turning this into some kind of witch hunt ,im amazed anyone wants to play for this club with some of dickheads that claim to support it.Adam could do with a bit of backing rather than slagging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 you are right, I should apologise. I responded in anger to this load of cack: He is an enigma, it is hard to see where he can fit in.He has no physical strength and apart from a few glimpses he was poor. His advisor is probably looking for a good fee and isnt really worried about AL's development. when of course your post did contain a well known fact about his sell on. Very sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 (edited) He has contract. We has money. He has talent. We sell when suits us not him. Unlucky Adam. Now join the ride or fade away. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 14 YEARS SOUTHAMPTON FC DICTATE TO THE PLAYERS. WE NOW SELL WHEN WE WANT TO. Interesting change eh? Good this selling the club to someone wealthy who cares isnt it?! Edited 10 July, 2009 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 (edited) ...and full of knowledge.Yours are just opinion of a player who may or may not become decent. Refusing to play is not the start of a long career in football. him refusing to play, is that fact or an opinion? One thing I agree with you on is that I hope he stays. Edited 10 July, 2009 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 anyone got a link to wat Wotte actually said bout him? musta missed it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 Last season we had to watch a very young and inexperienced team gradually fall apart. There were not enough minders in the team to help the kids and all to often it proved the decisive factor as the kids would lose to men in other teams. We would see week upon week fully grown men brush our boys aside with their superior strength. Adam was in the middle of the park and at the heart of the action. Due to the plans of the management the boy faded and failed to show as much as we had hoped. This season I firmly believe with the right backing he will do the business for us. A few good games and wins will lift the youngsters in a way that nothing else can. Give Adam, Fish and the others a chance I ask of you because this is the season we will see them prosper. Especially as we are likely to have the muscle that was missing last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 Bloomin heck, some of you are hard on young players. Some don't make the grade but I've seen enough players at the beginning of their careers who've had something and gone on do do good things: maybe not always at the same pace, but they've done it. Channon was quite slow to mature, you could see with Stevie Mills (RIP) immediately that he had something, the same with Bale and Walcott. Lallana is also a bit different, maybe not in the same class, but he has something about him. Give people a chance, folks, purlease.. Quite right Sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 No he hasn`t because as i said earlier too many people reading or listening to utter ****e and turning this into some kind of witch hunt ,im amazed anyone wants to play for this club with some of dickheads that claim to support it.Adam could do with a bit of backing rather than slagging. You have clearly forgotten the three golden rules; a) Young players are instantly as good as they are ever going to be. If they ever deviate from that they are s***e b) Players must never, ever lose form. If they do they are s***e c) Players must always tear-arse around the pitch to show that they have passion. If they don't they are s***e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorytheking Posted 10 July, 2009 Share Posted 10 July, 2009 **** him..... Trust delldays to picjk out the only bad news. Should of throttled the little dweeb when i had a pop at him in Buddha lounge. Fair play to Kelvin Davies What was the pop about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 anyone got a link to wat Wotte actually said bout him? musta missed it... not sure but Simon Carter from the Echo when interviewed on TalkSport said that Lallana had said he wanted to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 looks like he'll be playing against Bournmouth http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1719443,00.html how about a little support for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 He has contract. We has money. He has talent. We sell when suits us not him. Unlucky Adam. Now join the ride or fade away. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 14 YEARS SOUTHAMPTON FC DICTATE TO THE PLAYERS. WE NOW SELL WHEN WE WANT TO. Interesting change eh? Good this selling the club to someone wealthy who cares isnt it?! Great post. F**k yeah !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 All Adam wants to do is play football. He is still not fully fit from his medial ligament tear on last day at Notts Forest. I had this from his family last night when I made contact. Give the lad a break. It was his first season in first team football. So where does he want to play football thats the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 looks like he'll be playing against Bournmouth http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1719443,00.html how about a little support for him? Support him after he's said he wants out? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 So where does he want to play football thats the question?Saints is his first choice at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 looks like he'll be playing against Bournmouth http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1719443,00.html how about a little support for him? LOLage .. when I saw the headline "Lallana set for Bournemouth return" I had visions of us selling/loaning him to Bomo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 He has contract. We has money. He has talent. We sell when suits us not him. Unlucky Adam. Now join the ride or fade away. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 14 YEARS SOUTHAMPTON FC DICTATE TO THE PLAYERS. WE NOW SELL WHEN WE WANT TO. Interesting change eh? Good this selling the club to someone wealthy who cares isnt it?! So what happened to the Wallace's and Shearer's etc we sold before the past 14 year period, were they exempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 AL is a talented & skillful player, it may well be that he has been badly managed, but I did not see enough desire or effort from him last season at times - ultimately that is his responsibility. If he played with the same commitment he showed against burnley at home (scouts there no doubt) every week I would be delighted to keep him as he really could be the one to light up our season. If he ambles through most games like he did often after christmas - then jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 Perhaps as was reported Wotte really was not a good manager for the players ?? And this has led to a bit of a U-turn for some ?? Or perhaps they know who is coming in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 (edited) So what happened to the Wallace's and Shearer's etc we sold before the past 14 year period, were they exempt? No the point is that we now dictate to our players who we keep and who we let go. We can now afford to retain players, whereas before when a player wanted out either Lowe would seize the cash or we had no choice due to finances. Now we can afford to tell players like Adam to get back in his box whilst under contract. We will sell him when we want to not when he says he can leave. New manager has a far stronger hand than any over the last 14 years frankly. Its a significant difference that may well appeal to the likes of WGS for example. Whats more it means our young players have to really prove themselves. Fantastic change of situation. Means we CAN build a team of quality. Edited 11 July, 2009 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 I think Adam will light up the game when we play Ajax......To be on the safe side..I have sent him a torch for his back pocket during the game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 11 July, 2009 Share Posted 11 July, 2009 I hope Adam now focusses on Saints. With a new manager I know he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I had a bit of a re-read of this thread tonight; some interesting views in here and definitely worth reading, so thought I would give it a bit of a bump. Keeping aside some of the strange views that we should have got rid of Adam (and Morgan as well), it was an interesting reminder to me of the player that Adam was last season. It is remarkable the amount of progress he has made in just a few short months, which would indicate the amount of progress that he can still make if he stays on the same path. That said, I am a bit nervous about January coming around and the sharks circulating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Laughable posts really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 where the hell did this come from..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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