lambtiss Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 If he wants out then let him go. Let's get back to being a team of players proud to wear the red and white stripes. He went missing went it got tough last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 For the first time I agree with Lowe. We dont want anyone here who doesnt want to be here. Lallana can f**k off. Too right. We need players who are commited and we can probably get decent money for him. I'm just upset that Simon Cox went to West Brom today as that is a player we could done with and afforded. Where did Beckford go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Most overated player we have. Just because of that goal at West Brom. What else has he done??? **** all!!! have a bit of patience and you might see a great player devlop before your eyes. Some of you lot just will never learn. Young players need time and plenty of leeway. If he wants to leave then so be it, but until he has gone it might be an idea to just cut him and all the other developing youngsters a little more slack. If you can't spot his potential then quite frankly I doubt you never will be able to spot potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 reading echo - didn't realise he asked not to play last two games although fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Surman and Mcgoldrick go,hardly anything said and dont tell me they didn`t either,Lallana thinks about going and all he gets is a total slating oh how fickle we have become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 insert a decent sell on clause, and goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 have a bit of patience and you might see a great player devlop before your eyes. Some of you lot just will never learn. Young players need time and plenty of leeway. If he wants to leave then so be it, but until he has gone it might be an idea to just cut him and all the other developing youngsters a little more slack. If you can't spot his potential then quite frankly I doubt you never will be able to spot potential. He's not that young for a footabller breaking through. He can't pass, shoot tackle or head. Will never be a prem player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 If Lallana wants out then there's not a lot we can do. I don't want a player at the club who doesn't want to play for us to be honest. If he does go, then we should definitely insert a sell-on clause in the deal, as I'm convinced this lad has a big future in the game. I don't get why people are slating him so much. Yes, his form dipped during the second half of the season, but he was playing out of position in a struggling side. If he has a change of heart and decides to stay, then I hope Wotte or whoever is in charge can get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 (edited) He's not that young for a footabller breaking through. He can't pass, shoot tackle or head. Will never be a prem player. agreed but many many players come good slightly later in their careers. poor shooting yes, but passing and heading he's more than capable. I'm clearly wasting my time, I rate him highly as do others on here but as with all players their will always be differing opinions. I hope he stays but if he wants out then there is little more to say. I only give a **** about the careers of Saints players, once they leave they are dead to me. Edited 8 July, 2009 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I hope he stays but if he wants out then there is little more to say. I only give a **** about the careers of Saints players, once they leave they are dead to me. I feel the same and, hopefully, whoever is in charge next season can afford to be choosy, get rid of those who aren't committed to the cause and get in a decent replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 it is plain for anyone to see that Lallana has talent. Last season he wasn't able to produce an end-result for that talent, but lets be honest many young players are the same. Even Ronaldo was criticised in his younger days for not being able to produce an end result. Maybe this was due to his general attitude, maybe not. Maybe it was due to him not getting on with Wotte. But maybe not. However, what i do know is that the responsibility for getting the best out of players is just as much with the club as it is with the player, and i would hazard a guess that our previous regime were hardly conscience-free in this regard. I would really like to see our new regime going out of their way to encourage and motivate our best players to stay and be part of something special. Kelvin has an older head on his shoulders and it seems he is able to see this and wants to be part of it. Lallana is obviously younger and maybe his head will be turned by a Championship or even Premiership club. But, given the right support at this club, there is no doubt he can now achieve his long term career ambitions with us. But he needs someone to persuade him of that. If not, i think we will regret it. All those people saying he should **** off if he doesn't want to play for us... Would they still be saying that if he fulfilled his obvious talent last season? I doubt it. I have no doubt that Lallana will go on to become a good player, given the right coaching and mentoring. We should give him that support; if so it will be us that reaps the benefits, not some other club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Get rid of him we need men to get out this league not pansys like him. If we can get rid of Schneiderlin as well this could turn into a top summer. What a ridiculous attitude. Would you call Messi a pansy as well? He is a f*cking weakling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 it is plain for anyone to see that Lallana has talent. Last season he wasn't able to produce an end-result for that talent, but lets be honest many young players are the same. Even Ronaldo was criticised in his younger days for not being able to produce an end result. Maybe this was due to his general attitude, maybe not. Maybe it was due to him not getting on with Wotte. But maybe not. However, what i do know is that the responsibility for getting the best out of players is just as much with the club as it is with the player, and i would hazard a guess that our previous regime were hardly conscience-free in this regard. I would really like to see our new regime going out of their way to encourage and motivate our best players to stay and be part of something special. Kelvin has an older head on his shoulders and it seems he is able to see this and wants to be part of it. Lallana is obviously younger and maybe his head will be turned by a Championship or even Premiership club. But, given the right support at this club, there is no doubt he can now achieve his long term career ambitions with us. But he needs someone to persuade him of that. If not, i think we will regret it. All those people saying he should **** off if he doesn't want to play for us... Would they still be saying that if he fulfilled his obvious talent last season? I doubt it. I have no doubt that Lallana will go on to become a good player, given the right coaching and mentoring. We should give him that support; if so it will be us that reaps the benefits, not some other club. At last some common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 it is plain for anyone to see that Lallana has talent. Last season he wasn't able to produce an end-result for that talent, but lets be honest many young players are the same. Even Ronaldo was criticised in his younger days for not being able to produce an end result. Maybe this was due to his general attitude, maybe not. Maybe it was due to him not getting on with Wotte. But maybe not. However, what i do know is that the responsibility for getting the best out of players is just as much with the club as it is with the player, and i would hazard a guess that our previous regime were hardly conscience-free in this regard. I would really like to see our new regime going out of their way to encourage and motivate our best players to stay and be part of something special. Kelvin has an older head on his shoulders and it seems he is able to see this and wants to be part of it. Lallana is obviously younger and maybe his head will be turned by a Championship or even Premiership club. But, given the right support at this club, there is no doubt he can now achieve his long term career ambitions with us. But he needs someone to persuade him of that. If not, i think we will regret it. All those people saying he should **** off if he doesn't want to play for us... Would they still be saying that if he fulfilled his obvious talent last season? I doubt it. I have no doubt that Lallana will go on to become a good player, given the right coaching and mentoring. We should give him that support; if so it will be us that reaps the benefits, not some other club. Exactly!! Lallana has only had one full season in the first team squad - usually it takes a couple to make that step up. We have already seen the potential to a much higher degree than is usual for a player of his inexpereince. Let's remember what has happened with Nathan Dyer - he too had the potential and he has now gone on to begin to demonstrate that at Swansea. Let's also remember what Walcott was like in some matches - I remember seeing him in a couple of matches and thinking how unready he was for first team football at times! Lallana is the next in that production line. I, for one, hope that he stays and helps us to push for promotion despite the 10 point penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Surman and Mcgoldrick go,hardly anything said and dont tell me they didn`t either,Lallana thinks about going and all he gets is a total slating oh how fickle we have become. They had to go to pay the wages I thought perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 bye then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 All Adam wants to do is play football. He is still not fully fit from his medial ligament tear on last day at Notts Forest. I had this from his family last night when I made contact. Give the lad a break. It was his first season in first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Get rid of the little fairy and get Messi in. x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 have a bit of patience and you might see a great player devlop before your eyes. Some of you lot just will never learn. Young players need time and plenty of leeway. If he wants to leave then so be it, but until he has gone it might be an idea to just cut him and all the other developing youngsters a little more slack. If you can't spot his potential then quite frankly I doubt you never will be able to spot potential. So right - but sadly not everyone will have a clue what you are talking about. The instant success generation expect greatness at a touch of a button. Just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Well let's see how he feels this morning And let's hope Kelvin has a word with him about looking at the long term and not the next 5 minutes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I'm with Chez on this one. Take a young player, playing out of position in a bad team at a club on a downward spiral and with a bad atmosphere and slate him when he doesn't perform as well as we know he might. Perhaps the new mood of optimism will rub off on him, and a few bigger crowds and better atmosphere might also help. As for Scheiderlin, he needs to play alongside a midfielder with bite, that's for sure, but he's got good vision and control and a great long pass. Only 19, but captaining a French national side and you don't do that without ability and potential. So yes, they both need to do better, but let Saints get the benefit of their development, and stop thinking that it'll be easy to replace them with anything better or with more potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Give the lad a break for crying out loud. he has the potential to be a real star and is still exceedingly young and starting to make his way in the game. For all those who will say 'oh, he won't improve at his age' remember he lost a whole year with his heart trouble. The lad will be sheer class (if he works hard) and I hope this will be at Saints. I'd have Lallana over deadbeats like Stern John or Saganowski any day of the week. yet again, posters on this forum seem to be a better judge of players than Premier League scouts and clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Not sure if he has lost his way or if he is still learning his game, the one thing that is obvious is that the lad has talent and is young. The goal at QPR is still etched in my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 My attitude and perspective has changed since yesterday. Before then, I would have been quite angry that he hadn't exactly shone last season and justified the hype in him and I would resent him leaving because of the investment that the club had made in bringing him up through the youth coaching system. There were only one or two players in our relegation season who could hold their heads up high and say that they gave their all to the cause and he wasn't one of them. Granted that the inept management had a lot to do with that too. But today, my viewpoint has changed. Whereas before it would have been difficult to replace him with somebody of equal talent and potential because we did not have the money to be able to afford it, that has changed dramatically. Any player that isn't 100% committed to the task ahead, should go now and make way for somebody who is. If KD decides to stay, great credit to him. The older, more mature and experienced hands should have a quiet words with those like Lallana and pursuade them that Saints are standing on the threshhold of a bright and exciting new era in their history. They shouldn't quickly dismiss the opportunity to come along for the ride, probably ending up as more rounded individuals in the process, but ending up anyway back in the Premiership within three or four years with luck. The alternative might be much more money a league or two higher, but it also includes the possibility of warming the bench if they're lucky, or playing for the reserves if they're not. When we get in the players and manager capable of pushing on, we'll be an exciting prospect for other young players whose star is in the ascendancy, or older players whos star is waning from the higher divisions, but who still have something to offer. A team such as this could accommodate somebody like Lallana and help him develop. It really is his call. But if you stay, Adam, only do so wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I think Lallana is a quality player, his touch and close control was clearly better than most last year (IMO). He is a bit weak and lacks some of the physical attributes (pace, upper body strength) to be truly top class at the minute. He reminds me a bit of an exceptionally poor man's Alex Hleb... I do think that with the right coaching he could go on to be a very decent prem player, but he does need the right attitude and the right people around him. If he doesn't want to stay, then I would a bid for him, provided it wasn't completely outrageous (rumoured that Wolves bid £500k, far too low in my book) and it came with a sizeable sell on fee. Should Adam want to stay, then I would hope that he would be fully committed to the cause and work hard to improve himself and that we can back him and play him in the right position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Give the lad a break for crying out loud. he has the potential to be a real star and is still exceedingly young and starting to make his way in the game. For all those who will say 'oh, he won't improve at his age' remember he lost a whole year with his heart trouble. The lad will be sheer class (if he works hard) and I hope this will be at Saints. I'd have Lallana over deadbeats like Stern John or Saganowski any day of the week. yet again, posters on this forum seem to be a better judge of players than Premier League scouts and clubs. amen. I didn't know about the heart trouble, can you expand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 There were only one or two players in our relegation season who could hold their heads up high and say that they gave their all to the cause and he wasn't one of them. I honestly thought you were going to say `and he was one of them.' You should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 He is an enigma, it is hard to see where he can fit in.He has no physical strength and apart from a few glimpses he was poor. If i was his advisor i would tell him to keep his head down , work and make himself a must have. His advisor is probably looking for a good fee and isnt really worried about AL's development. By the way Bournemouth I am told have a 25%sell on clause. We should want him to stay so we get a decent fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 By the way Bournemouth I am told have a 25%sell on clause. We should want him to stay so we get a decent fee. I thought this was proved incorrect a few months ago.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I thought this was proved incorrect a few months ago.. ?who by? Not what i had heard, but I havent read the contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I thought this was proved incorrect a few months ago.. ? read his post, its shows a lack of knowledge from start to finish IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 read his post, its shows a lack of knowledge from start to finish IMO. Well IMO he failed to match the hype. He showed glimpses only of quality. His powder puff shooting was apparent. He did earn us some penalties but he should as I said put his down work improve to make him a must have. If you believe his name should be the first on the teamsheet then we are not going to agree. He has to harden up and be more involved. He does not jump and cannot heaqd, his shooting is poor and cant tackle.he can pick a pass though. Therefore do yuo suggest he goes and fades away or he stays works and makes a name for himself here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I honestly thought you were going to say `and he was one of them.' You should have. Its all about opinions and usually when it comes to players, I respect yours. But I don't agree in Lallana's case. I did accept that it might have had a lot to do with the clueless total football experiment where too many youngsters were played together in an unfamiliar formation and it might also have been the case that we didn't have the right manager to motivate him and play to his strengths. It would have been interesting to see how Pearson would have fared instead. I agree broadly with Nick. The examples of his contemporaries like Walcott an Bale going to top Premiership clubs is a bad one when he is hyped to be the next one. Unfortunately the early hype didn't materialise into ongoing results further into the season and having been told that he is an exceptional prospect and not delivering last season, he possibly thinks that it is for reasons other than those in his hands. I reckon he ought to prove himself here before going elsewhere as it will be better for his development and future value in the longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Yep. Disappointed with his attitude, to be honest - since he got the England U21 callup in September he's been average at best. Clearly thinks very highly of himself. He's got the potential to be a very good player, but he'll only become that player through hard work - something it seems he's not prepared to put in here. Yep. You may be right there Steve. So much potential though... so much. We need more men anyway. I hope we seriously start investing in solid experience to steady us this season. But, I wonder who Wotte can attract? Seriously, not designed as a dig at Wotte this time, but who can he attract into this club who would provide us with stability in the side to avoid relegation or with alot of luck get us a playoff place? I think we need more experienced pros. That requires a manager that an experience pro would follow. Its not that he's also shall be say 'challenged' tactically, its that he may not actually be able to bring in replacements for youngsters like Adam who did have potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Before Lallana becomes a quality player there are things he has to work on and there has been little sign of that. His shooting is weak and he does not strike the ball cleanly. He was told by a senior coach last year that his chasing around was counterproductive. He needed to be more intelligent and take up positions that threatened the opposition. He needs to be helped to do this. It could be that now there is a bright future for the club he may want to be part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Sorry guys, didn't see this thread before I started this... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14660 TBH, if he wants to go, fine. Just hope he packs two pairs of trackies in his bag - he'll need them to keep his ar$e warm on the bench... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Legend in his own mind!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 If he has refused to play as is reported then we should let him go for a reasonable fee, it's a shame that it has come to this, thought quite highly of the player, but if he wants to do a Kenwyne and **** on the club and the fans so be it. He will probably end up a good player with hard work and nurturing, if his heart is not in it however, ta ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 It would be nice to have Adam available this season, but I don't honestly see a place in the starting 11 for him (unless he is played out of position). The only position he really fulfills (IMO) is in the hole. He is not strong enough for CM, not a good enough crosser/not fast enough for RM and does not score enough for a fwd. So, I would like to have him available to come off of the bench or to be used in certain matches (but this would mean having a manager with the ability to swap and change things as appropriate), but if Adam does want away then get as much money as possible and wish the lad well. By the way, I believe Kayne McLaggon will become a far better player than Lallana and that he will make a big impact during the second half of this season (when he has fully recovered from his injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I thought this was proved incorrect a few months ago.. ? The tribunal awarded Bournemouth a 25% clause after Saints took him from Bournemouth's Centre of Excellence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 All Adam wants to do is play football. He is still not fully fit from his medial ligament tear on last day at Notts Forest. I had this from his family last night when I made contact. Give the lad a break. It was his first season in first team football. I'm happy to support him if he wants to stay - did the family tell you that he wantsto go or if hewants to stay??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Chez - I believe Adam was detected as having an irregular heartbeat back in 2004 and required an operation to rectify this and so obviously could not train/play for a number of months. Could be wrong but pretty sure this was the case. In case folks have forgotten, up until he got injured last season he was a joy to watch early on in the campaign with his quick feet and obvious skill. Being young, obviously his form would dip (as it did) but unfortunately last year we did not have the luxury of giving Adam a breather. I think Adam has the potential to be something VERY special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I'd prefer it if he stayed. The bloke's got talent and a reasonable football brain but he lacks physical strength, witness his weak shooting. If he had any sense he'd look to be staying this season and building those muscles in readiness for a push with Saints in the Championship next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Sky Sports also now say he has said he will refuse to play for us anymore http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_5422063,00.html That little **** should be left to rot in the reserves, was it not only a year ago he signed a new deal? That season he was one of our worst players not a player in a position to think he should be in the prem league...feck that was his 1st season and he was ****! He spent most of the time on the ground crying when a daisy tried to tackle him, the daisy always came away with the ball.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spank_182 Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 To be fair, Sky Sports also reported that Davis was still off to West Ham, and half an hour later had signed a new contract with us. That quote's a little old, maybe with the prospect of playing for a team with a bit of money he'll be more keen to play with a bunch of guys who arent likely to be shipped off on loan or sold if any bid comes in. Lallana's easily the most technically gifted player in the squad now, and yes parts of his game arent amazing, but there is a lot of potential which in my opinion will be evident next year if staying with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 If anyone wants to know why this country has been heading down the toilet, it's attitude like his. Refusing to play for us now? That's gratitude. Don't let the door bang you on the ar$e on your way out - loser... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Sky Sports also now say he has said he will refuse to play for us anymore http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_5422063,00.html That little **** should be left to rot in the reserves, was it not only a year ago he signed a new deal? That season he was one of our worst players not a player in a position to think he should be in the prem league...feck that was his 1st season and he was ****! He spent most of the time on the ground crying when a daisy tried to tackle him, the daisy always came away with the ball.... Just read it -it is so weird and so good to be able to read the penultimate sentence 'they do not have to sell.....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 All Adam wants to do is play football. He is still not fully fit from his medial ligament tear on last day at Notts Forest. I had this from his family last night when I made contact. Give the lad a break. It was his first season in first team football. Cheers for the update Ron... I for one hope he decides to stay - and appreciate that Agents often play an unwelcome role in these things. He has the potential to go on and do good things and i hope that with the excitement generated by the new ownership the security that comes with that and the example shown by the likes of Big Kelv he can see the futures Bright and its RED and White! Come on Adam - I you know you really want to be playing Premiership football....but think how much better it will feel in a few years in a Saints shirt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 27-08-2008, 02:40 PM Saintjersey Full Member Spider Jump Champion! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jersey/ Reading Posts: 763 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I really hope we can tie him down but I have my doubts. I know somebody who went to school with him and apparently Lallana was very arrogant. He also wanted to break into the Saints team as he saw this as a platform where he could move onto a bigger club. Let's just hope this doesn't happen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember I got slated for this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 If anyone wants to know why this country has been heading down the toilet, it's attitude like his. Refusing to play for us now? That's gratitude. Don't let the door bang you on the ar$e on your way out - loser... I doubt this information is totally accurate and if anything maybe one of teh biggest reasons we are heading down the toilet as a country is the obsession with rumour, gossip and hearsay which is too often treated as fact. Weston knows he family well, and I have met them at SMS, down to earth normal decent folk and unlikely to have installed taht kind of attitude in a decent young bloke... Seems to me its this kind of comment that might lead young playesr to want away - the moment they have a bad spell we knock them down after building them up... Adams poorer performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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