Were are we now in the rich list!

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

Of financialy well off clubs!!!

[Thedelldays]

means fuk all in league 1

[bigtonesfc]

means fuk all in league 1

 

Means we`re top in league 1!

[Saintjersey]

Aren't we meant to be about seventh in the whole of England? Would really like to know where we stand!

[ladysaint]

Unless he is going to put all his personal wealth into the club then I dont think it matters does it. I suppose as for rich owners we must be 5th or 6th at the moment.

[RedAndWhite91]

Posted by Jules in another thread:

 

1. Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan (Manchester City) 15 billion

 

2. Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) 12.5 billion

 

3. Roman Abramovich (Chelsea) 7 billion

 

4. Joe Lewis (Tottenham Hotspur) 2.5 billion

 

5. Bernie and Slavica Ecclestone (Queen's Park Rangers) 2.4 billion

 

6. Stanley Kroenke (Arsenal) 2.24 billion

 

7. Alisher Usmanov (Arsenal) 1.5 billion

 

=8. Lord Grantchester and the Moores family (Everton) 1.2 billion

 

=8. Dermot Desmond (Celtic) 1.2 billion

 

=10. Lord Ashcroft (Watford) 1.1 billion

 

=10. Malcolm Glazer and family (Manchester United) 1.1 billion

 

I found it here http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_387235.htm.

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

Well papers/pundits seem to gage this on an owners personal wealth, not what they put in!

[ChrisPY]

So we'd be 5th (ish). Ich liebe die Schweiz, Ich liebe Markus, Ich liebe das Rot und Weiss.

[sotonjoe]

Posted by Jules in another thread:

 

 

those figures would be £ right? or $?

 

Let's remember that many of the figures re our owner's wealth are often in euros

[St Louis]

those figures would be £ right? or $?

 

Let's remember that many of the figures re our owner's wealth are often in euros

 

They are in £'s, and we now officially have the 4th Richest Owner in British Football (can't believe I am even typing this) with a personal wealth of £2.7 Billion!!!

 

YeeeeeHaaaaaa!

[sotonist]

So we'd be 5th (ish). Ich liebe die Schweiz, Ich liebe Markus, Ich liebe das Rot und Weiss.

 

I thought Mittal owned most of QPR. He is or was richer than any of them.

[Joensuu]

How many owners do QPR have? Are they really 2nd and 5th?

[sotonjoe]

They are in £'s, and we now officially have the 4th Richest Owner in British Football (can't believe I am even typing this) with a personal wealth of £2.7 Billion!!!

 

YeeeeeHaaaaaa!

 

 

gulp

[Eire Saint]

So it's:

 

1. Man City (15 billion)

2. QPR (14.9 billion)

3. Chelsea (7 billion)

4. Arsenal (3.74 billion)

5. Saints (2.7 billion)

 

That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on?

[sotonist]

How many owners do QPR have? Are they really 2nd and 5th?

 

Oh Christ, you're right. Them and Arsenal are on twice.

[nickfinks]

So it's:

 

1. Man City (15 billion)

2. QPR (14.9 billion)

3. Chelsea (7 billion)

4. Arsenal (3.74 billion)

5. Saints (2.7 billion)

 

That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on?

 

You would hope so wouldnt you!!

[Thedelldays]

it does not matter if we are top if we dont see a penny

[RedAndWhite91]

So it's:

 

1. Man City (15 billion)

2. QPR (14.9 billion)

3. Chelsea (7 billion)

4. Arsenal (3.74 billion)

5. Saints (2.7 billion)

 

That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on?

 

It still hasn't quite sunk in hahaha, this is great!

[hugh]

it does not matter if we are top if we dont see a penny

 

Don't be such a bucket of cold water.

 

Relax, let everyone have their afternoon/evening of fun.

 

After all, we have had what seems like years of misery.

[Rasiak-9-]

Don't be such a bucket of cold water.

 

Relax, let everyone have their afternoon/evening of fun.

 

After all, we have had what seems like years of misery.

 

meh

 

that applies to basically every single club that has a sugar-daddy take it over

 

I mean by that rationale you may as well **** on the signing of a great new player by simply saying that he might not play all that well in the end.

 

The £30 million debt is gone - and whilst this guys in charge we're highly unlikely to fall into financial problems again and have money to burn on players.

[Rasiak-9-]

meh

 

that applies to basically every single club that has a sugar-daddy take it over

 

I mean by that rationale you may as well **** on the signing of a great new player by simply saying that he might not play all that well in the end.

 

The £30 million debt is gone - and whilst this guys in charge we're highly unlikely to fall into financial problems again and have money to burn on players.

 

sorry i meant to quote the delldays ^

[broncoboy]

Where ever we are

 

The best thing is hopefully we have a long term future safe from administration

 

and are no longer a joke team.

 

We can work our way back over time and not have to sell ever decent player we have to fund debt.

[Flyer]

2. Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) 12.5 billion

 

Add £2b for Bernie and £200m for Flav although Bernies divorce might have cost him something.

 

In reality, having rich owners only means security, not having a rich club and splashing out on multi million pound transfers every week.

[Johnny Bognor]

According to this, we are 4th!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/01/07/football-rich-list-roman-abramovich-knocked-off-top-spot-by-manchester-city-owner-115875-21021465/

 

 

Rich List Top 20

1 Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan (Man City) £15billion

2 Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) £12.5bn

3 Roman Abramovich (Chelsea) £7bn

4 Joe Lewis (Tottenham) £2.5bn

5 Bernie and Slavica Ecclestone (QPR) £2.4bn

6 Stanley Kroenke (Arsenal) £2.245bn

7 Alisher Usmanov (Arsenal) £1.5bn

8= Lord Grantchester & the Moores Family (Everton) £1.2bn

8= Dermot Desmond (Celtic) £1.2bn

10= Lord Ashcroft (Watford) £1.1bn

10= Malcolm Glazer and family (Man Utd) £1.1bn

12 Simon Keswick (Cheltenham) £966m

13 Trevor Hemmings (Preston) £900m

14 Mike Ashley (Newcastle) £800m

15 Randy Lerner (Aston Villa) £750m

16 Tom Hicks (Liverpool) £700m

17 The Walker Family (Blackburn) £660m

18 Mohammed Al Fayed (Fulham) £650m

19 Sir David Murray (Rangers) £600m

20 Steve Morgan (Wolves) £400m

[saint lard]

When you look at that list and see who has supposed less wealth than Markus Liebherr it sends a shiver up my spine.

I am afraid i might wake up from this euphoria and suddenly realise we are still in the midst of the nightmare that we have had to put up with these last few years.

[Mole]

We are now the 5th richest club in England.

 

Time to get those £20 notes out to wave at the away fans as we storm up the league.

[Toadhall Saint]

I keep thinking this is Saints this doesn't happen! I'm really worried its April 1st or something like I'm going to wake up and its all a dream! But deep down I know its real! **** me I'm happy as a pig in ****! COYRAWM

[whizzpop]

When you look at the rich table, im amazed to see Watford and Cheltenham in there...perhaps this tells us that you can have rich owners and they may just sit back and keep the club stable.

[NY Saint]

Erm, perhaps I've had a couple of ****tails too many this evening but I doubt he'd be offering the entire 2.7 billion to us... we're not exactly a profitable club at this stage...

 

I'll be happy if we're merely stable and can hold onto our players for a couple of years, get back into the CC at worst and build from there.

 

Fecking delighted that one of the strongest links I have to home are still going to be alive.

[SaintBobby]

Bloody marvellous isn't it?

 

I don't know if he will throw cash at the club (he sounds like he'll take a methodical, patient approach), but he clearly moves us away from a "sell to survive" scenario.

 

And...we're in League One FFS....I mean what's the average owner in League One worth? (at a total guess, £2.5m?....that's 0.1% of what Liebherr's worth....put another way, I think Liebherr is worth about 20-30 times all the other League One clubs combined!)

[johnny c]

When you look at the rich table, im amazed to see Watford and Cheltenham in there...perhaps this tells us that you can have rich owners and they may just sit back and keep the club stable.

 

Or not that stable in Watfords case.

[skintsaint]

all depends if his wealth is all tied up in assets doesnt it? not sure how they calculate it and doubt whether he has 2.5bn in cash in an account somewhere.

[Master Bates]

We're joint 4th with Spurs according to todays echo.

[dubai_phil]

Swiss businessmen in general are renowned for being careful, methodical and sensible, if sometimes a little dour and lacking in creativity. Highly successful ones add those last two traits, but generally, assessing risks carefully and making good decisions at the right time with detailed long term planning, so I don't think we'll see a 50mil transfer budget this year!

 

We will not have come out of admin "totally" debt free as some of the debts such as the Football Debts will be carried forward and will be paid from the newco (As part of the structure and FL rulings etc).

 

That of course would have been factored into the whole plan and budget work so the nett result is that thge BUSINESS of being a football club is not threatened by huge interest payments unlike Arsenal (The Stadium) Man U & Liverpool (The leveraged finances) - Thank heavens.

 

What I would expect to see is that we are now a massive opportunity, we aren't simply a "rich man's toy", we have the potential to become a strong and sustainable business, we do not need billions, we just need the RIGHT amount of money at the RIGHT times.

 

To have made SO much money Markus has a proven track record in successful decision making. I think we are in for a long and exciting ride, but I really do not expect to see us suddenly start paying PL level wages and transfer fees for League1 numpties.

 

We can make a profit for him and we can make a capital profit for him and we CAN climb back up the League with the right leadership in place.

 

Wisdom, and a proven track record - to me that is by FAR the most valuable asset he can bring to us now. The money just helps to know that WHEN we need to invest to get to "The Next Level" it will be there, unlike 2003.... (and of course to help ensure MVP's such as KD stayed!)

 

Oh happy days, time to do some work for a change!

[sotonist]

Good job someone estimated his personal fortune at €3b then. Is there anybody confident of where that figure has come from.

[buctootim]

Good job someone estimated his personal fortune at €3b then. Is there anybody confident of where that figure has come from.

 

My job involves knowing how much wealthy people are worth - and Ive no idea! Very little information is available about ML. I imagine the £2.5bn is probably made up / wild guesstimate.

[Hatch]

Surely his personal wealth has f-all to do with the clubs net worth.

[derry]

The really important thing is that we can now generate substantial income that all goes to the club, rather than debt, mortgage, and interest payments and massively inflated wages.

 

This new ownership is generating a confidence and pride that should lead to large crowds and increased season ticket sales.

 

Success will breed success and at last we can compete.

[Hopkins]

Where is the evidence that is he a billionaire btw? And worth 2.5billion?

 

Obviously his Mali Group has made some decent turn over but has anyone got some facts about this?

 

Apart from the reports which all seemed to have copied each other, can we actually prove he's a billionaire? His family is rich and I cant imagine he sold his shares back to them on the cheap but I'd like to see some actual proof of his worth if possible...

[SOTONS EAST SIDE]

Markus gave back his company shares, and from what i'm told still retains a family share in Liebherr-International AG. SFC was paid for from his own personel wealth, and not from any of his company funds!

You dont do that unless you have some serious money behind you!