bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I was recently involved in an argument in a tower block with my friends neighbours.I got arrested but there was no further action.1 week later i am informed that the housing association that own the property have taken an injunction out on me. There was a court case that i did not attend as i was not going to appeal it,as its an area i never usually go too.Last thursday i get a court order instructing me to pay costs of £1233,to be paid by monday 06th july.Can this be right? I have also tried to contact the housing association,to arrange payment but they do not return my calls. Any help appreciated!:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I assume it was a criminal court or was it a civil court ? What exactly were you charged with, the £1233 seems to be a huge sum to be costs only. I may be wrong but I think in criminal cases you make payment to the court, in civil cases it may be the order is to pay the Housing Association directly. You really need to find out as much as you can and then seek advise from the CAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 County Court,was no charges just costs for the injunction case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 CAB couldnt help!And i`m trying to pay the housing association before i get hit with more costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 £1,233 is a fair bit of damage. Maybe you should put some cash aside for an anger management course. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I was actually in my friends house,who happens to be thallidimide with a woman and 3 kids when the woman neighbour got one of the kids to open the front door and proceeded to attack our friend.I managed to get her off her and out of vthe flat when her boyfriend came in,it came to blows(well one blow actually),that stopped it,so we left.Igot picked up going home by the police..as i said no charges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I would go to the Echo and shame the housing association into submission for your actions in protecting a disabled person who is unable to defend themselves from an attack from an able bodied person who should know a damn sight better, they should be the ones being fined, and more, for the initial attack provoked or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I think the police let it go as a domestic,but the neighbours told the housing people that,although they had initially caused it by entering my mates flat,we carried on assaulting them in theirs,....total bullshot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Get the press involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 CAB couldnt help!And i`m trying to pay the housing association before i get hit with more costs. I doubt that you'll find the costs increase but the CAB should be able to help, maybe you spoke to the wrong person ? Otherwise again I'm wracking my brain to say whether this is accurate but I think you are entitled to seek legal advice and get one free hour consultation. However, since I'm not a solicitor I cannot be 100% sure, I suggest you find out, it could be useful and depending on your circumstances you might be entitled to legal aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Got a free half hour,he read the statements and said i could appeal but i cant get legal aid,so more expense,and i may not win anyway!So basically the cheapest option is to take it on the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Name and shame the scummy, pikey neighbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Yes, at this point if you have the money to pay it off in one go then that's really the best option. As you say an appeal will add to the costs and just prolong the stress. Sometimes things just don't seem fair but that's life, no one ever said it was supposed to be fair! However, you might want to think of ways to ensure this neighbour from hell does not pull the same stunt again. Certainly your disabled friend should be able to do something, surprised they did not pursue charges or would that have meant you were charged as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I'd definitely put everything into writing and get the media involved. Doesn't sound like you did anything wrong based on what you said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Well the fact he had to go to hospital wouldnt look too clever on my part,i think he was after a claim,but it went the wrong way for them as they also have to do an undertaking in this injunction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 This does not make sense. If you are alleged to have attacked someone he would have obtained an Injunction, not the Housing Association. I cannot see why thet would injunct you. Either way an application for an Injunction would need to be served on you. That application would tell you the court date. If that happened and you did not go you got nothing to moan about. Sometimes an Injunction would be obtained without you having notice of the hearing. The Injunction Order would, however, have to be served on you. It would always give you either a date for a follow up hearing or a date by which you should object if you do not want the Order to continue. Again if you did nothing... If you have not been served you apply to set aside the Injunction and costs Order. Different to an appeal - basically you are saying that you have never had a chance to oppose the application rather than saying the decision was wrong as such. You need to sort this. Forget the CAB - spend some money on a proper lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 This does not make sense. If you are alleged to have attacked someone he would have obtained an Injunction, not the Housing Association. I cannot see why thet would injunct you. Either way an application for an Injunction would need to be served on you. That application would tell you the court date. If that happened and you did not go you got nothing to moan about. Sometimes an Injunction would be obtained without you having notice of the hearing. The Injunction Order would, however, have to be served on you. It would always give you either a date for a follow up hearing or a date by which you should object if you do not want the Order to continue. Again if you did nothing... If you have not been served you apply to set aside the Injunction and costs Order. Different to an appeal - basically you are saying that you have never had a chance to oppose the application rather than saying the decision was wrong as such. You need to sort this. Forget the CAB - spend some money on a proper lawyer. There was a court case, he said that in the first post. He didn't bother going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I was served the papers at work,i asked if i needed to attend if i wasnt bothered about being banned from an area i never go too.He replied that it was my choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I was served the papers at work,i asked if i needed to attend if i wasnt bothered about being banned from an area i never go too.He replied that it was my choice! Wrong choice! If you don't go to court the Judge has only one side of the story and does what he wants. No leg to stand on I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 No stories were given,the woman with us also had an injunction taken out on her too.She went because she lives close too the area and takes her kids to a park next to it.There is another hearing in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 You should attend hearings. Even if you can't afford representation. If you don't, the judge will assume you are a pikey scumbag. No offence meant, and I'm sure you're not - doesn't sound as though you are from your story. I'm putting it in those terms so you can see what it might look like to a room of people who don't know you and only hear one side of the story. As you've found out; if you don't turn up the other side are also more likely to obtain whatever costs order they ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Well the fact he had to go to hospital wouldnt look too clever on my part,i think he was after a claim,but it went the wrong way for them as they also have to do an undertaking in this injunction! Clearly you were defending yourself and your disabled friend from an attack from a neighbour. The only way to stop the violent boyfriend was to hit him. He entered your friends flat to attack your friend. The Echo will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 9 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 July, 2009 To clarify things,the woman neighbour came in and attacked Miss A (who is 5`0,and 7st),in my disabled friends house in front 3 under 11 kids.Being the only one physically able to do anything about it,i managed to get the woman (who is rather "big-boned")out of the flat,then the boyfriend comes in also agressively.Not knowing what he was going to do i struck him,he went down and played dead.We tried to turn him over to see if he was ok but he would not let us.Myself,Miss A and her son then left.I was arrested down the road and spent 16 hours in the civic,then released with NO charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I was served the papers at work,i asked if i needed to attend if i wasnt bothered about being banned from an area i never go too.He replied that it was my choice! To clarify things,the woman neighbour came in and attacked Miss A (who is 5`0,and 7st),in my disabled friends house Did your friend move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 9 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 July, 2009 No,his house is set up for someone who has thallidimide,and why should he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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