Aardvark Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 If this keeps dragging on what will be the situation for those season ticket holders (e.g. me) who are away on holiday at exactly the wrong time and lose out on a chance to renew their preferred seat(s)?:confused:[-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I am losing the will to live with this. Seriously doing my nut in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 If this keeps dragging on what will be the situation for those season ticket holders (e.g. me) who are away on holiday at exactly the wrong time and lose out on a chance to renew their preferred seat(s)?:confused:[-o Thought I saw a poster at Heathrow on the way out that Vodafone have removed roaming charges in much of Europe? Mobile & credit card may be the way to go (but probably cannot ring an 0800 type number) No idea if that will help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 (edited) Not all Swiss companies shuffle money or make drugs, some actually make things out of big lumps of metal (including mine too). This is something we are not really used to much in the UK any more. Not quite sure of your point here. My company does none of the things you list. What I was saying was that engineering companies overseas and their owners aren't necessarily high profile outside their own sphere, one I'd be shocked if a provincial sports journo was especially well up on. From Fry's perspective he doesn't give a thruppenny wobbler whether the new owners are good for Saints, the fans or whatever, he's employed to get a good deal for the creditors - so if Pinnacle, Jacko pr whover offer a better price for the creditors any billionaires offering elss can go whistle from his PoV. Doesn't help us as fans but that's Fry's duty. Edited 6 July, 2009 by Foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Could be a bit like getting Jermaine Jackson to headline your concert when you were expecting Michael. K. probably not a good example. If i wanted to go to a jackson concert (which I don't), Jermaine might be a better bet now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 So - apart from a bulging brown envelope, a nod and a wink - why did Pinnacle get the nod ahead of this Swiss fella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I'm backing Hubert Lieberr because I like the name Hubert . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 So - apart from a bulging brown envelope, a nod and a wink - why did Pinnacle get the nod ahead of this Swiss fella? ...maybe because somehow they stumped up the 500k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 ...maybe because somehow they stumped up the 500k. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 ...maybe because somehow they stumped up the 500k. Exactly. Whoever could stump up the non-returnable deposit first was given exclusivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not quite sure of your point here. My company does none of the things you list. What I was that engineering companies overseas and their owners aren't necessarily high profile outside their own sphere, one I'd be shocked if a provincial sports journo was especially well up on. From Fry's perspective he doesn't give a thruppenny wobbler whether the new owners are good for Saints, the fans or whatever, he's employed to get a good deal for the creditors - so if Pinnacle, Jacko pr whover offer a better price for the creditors any billionaires offering elss can go whistle from his PoV. Doesn't help us as fans but that's Fry's duty. Fair point also. I suppose it does depend in what sphere you do work as many engineers would have heard of them but we are a shrinking crowd. Also journos only get off on celeb sh*te, money and politics these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 So - apart from a bulging brown envelope, a nod and a wink - why did Pinnacle get the nod ahead of this Swiss fella? MLT link probably - I wouldn't underestimate his influence and how much the general public were desparate to see someone that actually cared about the club in charge for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 MLT link probably - I wouldn't underestimate his influence and how much the general public were desparate to see someone that actually cared about the club in charge for once I doubt that this would have influenced Fry one iota. But I am intrigued as to how Pinnacle came up with the funds when they seemed penniless and leaderless when required.There was of course good old 'Uncle Leon' to fall back on,and like MLT he was reeled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I doubt that this would have influenced Fry one iota. But I am intrigued as to how Pinnacle came up with the funds when they seemed penniless and leaderless when required.There was of course good old 'Uncle Leon' to fall back on,and like MLT he was reeled in. Leon's silence on the matter would suggest so. I expect we will have our answer once the club is sold, assuming it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 this is going to drag on and on again! More time wasted on "issues" Time wasted on tissues is much better imo. Come on Swiss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 On another note, my mate in the shipping industry deals with the Liebherr Group, he'll be in contact with them today and he asked if he should ask them about Saints. I told him not to with the words "you don't want to be solely responsible for ruining any deal do you?" He never replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Right, and their sports editor had heard of them before last week? I hadn't and I work for a company HQed in Switzerland You could well be right.....Solent talk to someone who purports to be someone else with money....No confirmation from Fry suggests we are guessing...Not a word from company suggested... No disrespect to Solent or The Echo.....Journos who would have em... COYRs[-o Someone please:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I told him not to with the words "you don't want to be solely responsible for ruining any deal do you?" On this point can I politely ask my fellow supporters not to spam the liebherr group/family with questions about Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Solent said the report in the Daily Mail is not quite correct. They went onto say that they (Sports editor of Solent) have personally spoken to the Swiss Group. The Swiss Group is backed by a billionaire member of the Swiss Liebherr family, however it is not the brother and sister who head the international conglomerate. Solent stated this is still very good news. They have made good progress but there are still a few issues to be sorted out. Solent were questioning why, with a member of the world famous and wealthy Liebherr family trying to buy the club, did Pinnacle get exclusivity. Knew it was too good to be true!! Let's hope whoever it is, they are still minted, and the deal still goes through. At least Solent seem positive still. I share their confusion on why Pinnacle got exclusivity, when this lot sound so much more of a solid organisation...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Knew it was too good to be true!! Let's hope whoever it is, they are still minted, and the deal still goes through. At least Solent seem positive still. I share their confusion on why Pinnacle got exclusivity, when this lot sound so much more of a solid organisation...? Perhaps it's just that Fry does have a soft spot for us by trying to get the best buyer that has a footballing background (provided he gets his price). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 No news is good news we are told. Why? We all want to hear some news telling us that we can continue or seasonal love affair with our club. The swiss make world class watches so they should know a thing or two about time. Something we are running out of so please can you get a blooming move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Exactly. Whoever could stump up the non-returnable deposit first was given exclusivity. I bet whoever that was is crying his/her eyes out now ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Perhaps it's just that Fry does have a soft spot for us by trying to get the best buyer that has a footballing background (provided he gets his price). But the Swiss were in the frame when he gave Pinnacle exclusivity - or are you saying Pinnacle were going to pay a higher figure? Who knows... thought I thought he'd have checked on availability of funds a bit closer. Anyway, who cares if we get the right outcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Perhaps it's just that Fry does have a soft spot for us by trying to get the best buyer that has a footballing background (provided he gets his price). Puts a different slant on the phrase " Preferred Bidder " don't you think ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Solent ran a slight update on the 12'noon news update. I transcibe, thus:- "The Liebherr family are behind the post-war success story that is the Liebherr Group, a company set up by Hans Liebherr that has excelled worldwide in construction, machinery and plant , and has since diversified into a number of companies that between them turned over more than 8,000 million euros last year. Contrary to newpaper reports the Swiss bid for Saints hasn't come from siblings Isolde and Willi Leibherr that run the group, but from one of their as yet unnamed relatives that is behind a different company. BBC Radio Solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 6 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Solent said the report in the Daily Mail is not quite correct. They went onto say that they (Sports editor of Solent) have personally spoken to the Swiss Group. The Swiss Group is backed by a billionaire member of the Swiss Liebherr family, however it is not the brother and sister who head the international conglomerate. Solent stated this is still very good news. They have made good progress but there are still a few issues to be sorted out. Solent were questioning why, with a member of the world famous and wealthy Liebherr family trying to buy the club, did Pinnacle get exclusivity. Solent ran a slight update on the 12'noon news update. I transcibe, thus:- "The Liebherr family are behind the post-war success story that is the Liebherr Group, a company set up by Hans Liebherr that has excelled worldwide in construction, machinery and plant , and has since diversified into a number of companies that between them turned over more than 8,000 million euros last year. Contrary to newpaper reports the Swiss bid for Saints hasn't come from siblings Isolde and Willi Leibherr that run the group, but from one of their as yet unnamed relatives that is behind a different company. BBC Radio Solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." End of week! Did think in morning report they said it was another sibling rather than just family member? They were saying that it was dad's company/money not owned and run by the two in mail, but they had another sibling??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 bbc radio solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 end of the week good God above how long is this going to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I'm backing Hubert Lieberr because I like the name Hubert . only two letters away from a Rupert though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgert76 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Not all Swiss companies shuffle money or make drugs, some actually make things out of big lumps of metal (including mine too). This is something we are not really used to much in the UK any more. Did they make the original Ted bates statue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tango Man Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 So does this mean we are not the seventh or so richest club in England and Tevez will not be signing? Just had my shirt printed with TEVEZ..do you think I can get a refund. Another day with more stories and speculations, it is good to know that we can wake up every day to something consistant !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 BBC Radio Solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." Friday, 2pm press conference. These guys really know what they are doing, even understand the takeover conventions. And I'm just predicting the above. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 But the Swiss were in the frame when he gave Pinnacle exclusivity - or are you saying Pinnacle were going to pay a higher figure? Who knows... thought I thought he'd have checked on availability of funds a bit closer. Anyway, who cares if we get the right outcome! That was my (probably flawed) reading. The Swiss have been interested all along as we know, but not into paying silly money for a product that might be worth less if the FL were to refuse removing the 10 points, which proved to be the case. Pinnacle presumably had offered more (gambling on their shadowy investors stumping up) because they, and Fry too, believed there would be an opportunity to appeal. So when this didn't happen. and Pinnacle backed out, Fry turned to the Swiss's slightly cheaper bid. But now that Gillico are waving cash about the Swiss may be sticking to their origial price. Not a buyer's market since Gillico came onto the scene. But I am possibly quite wrong. I have no inside info at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 MLT link probably - I wouldn't underestimate his influence and how much the general public were desparate to see someone that actually cared about the club in charge for once You are absolutely right. And we were only too relieved that someone was interested when it looked like we were dead. Pinnacle and MLT did at least start the very heavy ball moving - sort of. And for that I am grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Liebherr are everywhere! Just come past the roadworks at M3 Junction 3 (Ligh****er). The piling rigs on the hard shoulder have Liebherr on them like Komatsu or Bomag, so heavy industrial equipment it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I love the censoring - Juntion 3 M3 is LighT WATer !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 It is a tad indiscriminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Solent ran a slight update on the 12'noon news update. I transcibe, thus:- "The Liebherr family are behind the post-war success story that is the Liebherr Group, a company set up by Hans Liebherr that has excelled worldwide in construction, machinery and plant , and has since diversified into a number of companies that between them turned over more than 8,000 million euros last year. Contrary to newpaper reports the Swiss bid for Saints hasn't come from siblings Isolde and Willi Leibherr that run the group, but from one of their as yet unnamed relatives that is behind a different company. BBC Radio Solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." When I heard the item earlier today I,m sure the phrase was could be completed well before the end of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Liebherr are everywhere! Just come past the roadworks at M3 Junction 3 (Ligh****er). The piling rigs on the hard shoulder have Liebherr on them like Komatsu or Bomag, so heavy industrial equipment it is. It was a message sent from above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 When I heard the item earlier today I,m sure the phrase was could be completed well before the end of the week My quote was EXACTLY what was said within the Solent report, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Still contains the word 'could' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 My quote was EXACTLY what was said within the Solent report, bud. I did say EARLIER today,bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Liebherr are everywhere! Just come past the roadworks at M3 Junction 3 (Ligh****er). The piling rigs on the hard shoulder have Liebherr on them like Komatsu or Bomag, so heavy industrial equipment it is. Went pass one of their cranes on the M271 earlier today. Power of attraction me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Liebherr are everywhere! Just come past the roadworks at M3 Junction 3 (Ligh****er). The piling rigs on the hard shoulder have Liebherr on them like Komatsu or Bomag, so heavy industrial equipment it is. Went past one of their cranes on the M271 earlier today. Power of attraction me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Solent ran a slight update on the 12'noon news update. I transcibe, thus:- "The Liebherr family are behind the post-war success story that is the Liebherr Group, a company set up by Hans Liebherr that has excelled worldwide in construction, machinery and plant , and has since diversified into a number of companies that between them turned over more than 8,000 million euros last year. Contrary to newpaper reports the Swiss bid for Saints hasn't come from siblings Isolde and Willi Leibherr that run the group, but from one of their as yet unnamed relatives that is behind a different company. BBC Radio Solent also understands that the bid is in an advanced stage, and could be completed before the end of the week." Anyone got that Friday Feeling It gotta be Friday, all our false dawns have happened on Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Now stateing they are awaiting contract from FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Now stateing they are awaiting contract from FL. We got muscle now Mawhinney! Get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie@home Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Just going to have a glass of wine out of my amazing Liebherr wine fridge - absolutely excellent, holds approx. 500 bottles graduating in temperature up each shelf to give you the perfect temperature for each style of wine. Suddenly, we start seeing a name that has probably been around us for years, without us noticing. I wonder if they will be backing further development of Southampton docks? It's got to be one of the best ways to get the local council onside; financing the local football club. How many cranes will they need then? Probably make loads of other stuff that is used in the docks aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 We got muscle now Mawhinney! Get on with it! Do the deal Mawhinney or find yourself skewered on the end of one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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