If The Swiss Do Buy Us & Have A Bit Of Cash Who Would You Want To Be Our Manager?

[Kadeem Hardison]

If I were the new owners, I would install a revolutionary new coaching set-up using the Netherlands for inspiration.

[ottery st mary]

This is me.

 

http://www.rc8supercup.com/Thruxton-Round-6.102016.0.html

 

3rd pic. Number 19.

 

Can we get back on topic?

 

As with the expert advice I give our football coach...May I be so bold to suggest you tuck your elbows in.....

 

Don't ger back to me Michael The German boy in the big red car never did.:cool:

 

Good luck with your future.[-o

[Plonko]

As with the expert advice I give our football coach...May I be so bold to suggest you tuck your elbows in.....

[-o

 

You could probably offer the same advice to Ben Spies. He probably wouldn't listen either.

[70's Mike]

If I were the new owners, I would install a revolutionary new coaching set-up using the Netherlands for inspiration.

 

Good job who are not then

[saintjay77]

This is me.

 

http://www.rc8supercup.com/Thruxton-Round-6.102016.0.html

 

3rd pic. Number 19.

 

Can we get back on topic?

 

Cool, I will recognise ya if I see you in Town now.

[cambsaint]

Selexus: If I want advice on how to win in motorsport then I'll ask a very good friend of the family who competes at the highest level professionally in World Touring Cars.

 

However having managed at a senior level for the past twenty five years and been in involved as a Chair of a professional negotiating body; I try to view a situation rationally, and I consider that while there are undoubtedly more talented managers, in our position as a Third Div Club with a ten point deduction we are beggars rather than choosers.

 

Anyway all the best in your racing career -I know from Rob just how near impossible it is to break intio the big-time.

[ottery st mary]

You could probably offer the same advice to Ben Spies. He probably wouldn't listen either.

 

 

Good luck to Ben as well.[-o<...to be honest even the missus and kidzz listen not to my expert advice anymore. src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d0109cfe86307600e50ca0e8c565d441.gif" alt=":D">....They usually say...Leave it for your buddies on the forum. Who are they you may well ask...

 

Is Ben the same or does he do something different to sexlexus...Or am I getting to know even more famous peeps?

 

Wotte out and Ben in..I say;)

Edited 6 July, 2009 by ottery st mary

[CB Fry]

I love the way you seem to pin all the problems on Wotte, like getting another manager will suddenly sort all the issues from the past 5 years or so.

 

IMO the worst season was when we went down with Redcrap. Dropping out of the prem caused a chain reaction that ultimatly led to where we are now.

 

I wouldnt say Wotte is the best for the job but I think he would do better under different cicumstances. Given that by the time we actually do get taken over he might be worth keeping for the coming season as any plans for a push up the league surly wont seriously get into full swing untill the season after. If a new manager is needed to get that done then that would be the perfect time to get the right man.

 

More Lowe-esk type manager merry-go-round is not what our club needs IMO.

 

 

Err - I love the way you have just made up a load of opinions on my behalf and then had a go at me for them

 

No "pinning of all our problems on Wotte" from me, son. Where did I even sugges that?

 

And No "changing the manager will solve the problems of the last five years" either. Where did I even suggest that?

 

People writing off the whole season because we are in a bit of turmoil now is laughable. Roy Keane took over Sunderland in September at the foot of the table and still got promoted. Since when were league placings decided in the first week of July?

 

If next season is a write-off anyway in your opinion, why don't we just give a new manager the whole write-off season to bed in and get settled in, giving him a whole season of oh-so-precious stability to build on.

 

 

 

You accuse me of thinking changing things will magically solve things but you have an equal delusion that giving anyone "stability" somehow guarantees success - doesn't matter how bad they are, give them five years and they'll turn into Sir Alex. It's garbage.

 

Every successful manager in Prem-era UK football have delivered at their club within one year, or they haven't succeeded there. From Moyes to Wenger, from Redknapp to Jewell, from Jol to Curbishley, from Darren Ferguson to Martinez, from Paul Ince to Gordon Strachan, from Tony Mowbray to Phil Brown, from Alan Irvine to Billy Davies.

 

With the single exception of Sir Alex twenty-five odd years ago.

 

And still people go on about "go on, let him be rubbish for three seasons, stability's the main thing". Get over it, it's nonsense.

 

Wotte out.

Edited 6 July, 2009 by CB Fry

[saintjay77]

Err - I love the way you have just made up a load of opinions on my behalf and then had a go at me for them

 

No "pinning of all our problems on Wotte" from me, son. Where did I even sugges that?

 

And No "changing the manager will solve the problems of the last five years" either. Where did I even suggest that?

 

People writing off the whole season because we are in a bit of turmoil now is laughable. Roy Keane took over Sunderland in September at the foot of the table and still got promoted. Since when were league placings decided in the first week of July?

 

If next season is a write-off anyway in your opinion, why don't we just give a new manager the whole write-off season to bed in and get settled in, giving him a whole season of oh-so-precious stability to build on.

 

 

 

You accuse me of thinking changing things will magically solve things but you have an equal delusion that giving anyone "stability" somehow guarantees success - doesn't matter how bad they are, give them five years and they'll turn into Sir Alex. It's garbage.

 

Every successful manager in Prem-era UK football have delivered at their club within one year, or they haven't succeeded there. From Moyes to Wenger, from Redknapp to Jewell, from Jol to Curbishley, from Darren Ferguson to Martinez, from Paul Ince to Gordon Strachan, from Tony Mowbray to Phil Brown, from Alan Irvine to Billy Davies.

 

With the single exception of Sir Alex twenty-five odd years ago.

 

And still people go on about "go on, let him be rubbish for three seasons, stability's the main thing". Get over it, it's nonsense.

 

Wotte out.

 

Blimey your on one today aint ya.

 

I said you "seem" to pin. Dont have a go at me because you dont read my posts right. I gave an opinion on things you said. I didnt insult you or make anything up or have a go at you. My 1st sentance joked how your post "Seemed" to me. Now settle down grandpa and drink your milk.

 

I went on to say I dont think Wotte is long term but given our situation "I think" he is worth a period to see what he can do under different circumstances. I am not buying the club so I have no idea what will happen and what ever does happen I will support it.

 

I dont want to right off this coming season but right now we are selling assets to pay wages, no season ticket sales even being spoken about, out of contract players waiting just incase we get taken over and some offers can be made, those same out of contract players looking to find a club so they can get a pre-season with that club as they cant wait for ever here, -10 points ready and waiting for us in a few weeks and a pretty grim time of it trying to adjust to league 1.

 

So forgive me for thinking a bit of stability followed by a decent fresh start next season is not a bad idea.

 

If the take over happens sooner rather than later and there is a rush of activity with manager and team and staff then fantastic. even with -10 the feel good factor and new ideas may be enough for a fantastic season. but the longer the uncertenty goes the harder it will be "IMO"

[Selexus]

People writing off the whole season because we are in a bit of turmoil now is laughable. Roy Keane took over Sunderland in September at the foot of the table and still got promoted. Since when were league placings decided in the first week of July?

 

If next season is a write-off anyway in your opinion, why don't we just give a new manager the whole write-off season to bed in and get settled in, giving him a whole season of oh-so-precious stability to build on.

 

 

 

You accuse me of thinking changing things will magically solve things but you have an equal delusion that giving anyone "stability" somehow guarantees success - doesn't matter how bad they are, give them five years and they'll turn into Sir Alex. It's garbage.

 

Every successful manager in Prem-era UK football have delivered at their club within one year, or they haven't succeeded there. From Moyes to Wenger, from Redknapp to Jewell, from Jol to Curbishley, from Darren Ferguson to Martinez, from Paul Ince to Gordon Strachan, from Tony Mowbray to Phil Brown, from Alan Irvine to Billy Davies.

 

With the single exception of Sir Alex twenty-five odd years ago.

 

And still people go on about "go on, let him be rubbish for three seasons, stability's the main thing". Get over it, it's nonsense.

 

Wotte out.

 

Very valid points !

The truth of the matter is none of us know if a manager will be any good at this (or any other) club. There are simply to many variables that need to be taken into consideration for an acurate prediction.

I would however suggest that Wotte gave it a good go last season, and despite the unfortunate issues beyond his control, he still failed to deliver any form of consistency or credible results.

I believe that (fingers crossed) the new owners will be a suitably attractive proposition to temp a decent manager to us.

Who ?

I really don't have a firm favorite. I like Ince, but that ship seems to have sailed, KK would certainly pull the punters in, but i'd question his motivation at this level. Shearer, maybe? he needs to make a statment about his managerial skills away from the glare of the PL. Tisdale, don't know much about his style or results so i'll pass on commenting. Curbs, i think would be a good fit here, but i would expect his sights to be a little higher. Coppel would be a good choice, he's a motivator, with a good eye for talent and knows how to get a group of individuals playing as a true team.

As i said, in reality Sir Alex could walk through the door and make a right hash of things if all the dominoes are not lined up. You just don't know until they've been in the door 4 - 6 months.

 

All IMHO of course

 

Regards

Me

[St Marco]

Those saying Wotte should be given a chance etc.. Was being in charge for half our games last year not a chance then? Even though he was free to play the players Jan was not including a champions league striker? And he brought in many loan players?

 

What would be different this time? Where ever the guy has gone he has done poor, in fact he has got nearly 70% of his teams relegated. If we are giving out jobs to those who have remained loyal then we all should be given the job, we would do just as good a job.

[Doctoroncall]

Those saying Wotte should be given a chance etc.. Was being in charge for half our games last year not a chance then? Even though he was free to play the players Jan was not including a champions league striker? And he brought in many loan players?

 

What would be different this time? Where ever the guy has gone he has done poor, in fact he has got nearly 70% of his teams relegated. If we are giving out jobs to those who have remained loyal then we all should be given the job, we would do just as good a job.

 

Too true but this emotional attachment seems to be too strong for some people (didn't he stab JP in the back when JP was released?). Wotte maybe eligible for the managers job but he isn't suitable as we saw last season.

[Bearsy]

Of all those mentioned in this thread WGS would be my first choice, and Shearer my last.

 

We'd have to have a lot of cash to tempt the wee man though.

[CB Fry]

Those saying Wotte should be given a chance etc.. Was being in charge for half our games last year not a chance then? Even though he was free to play the players Jan was not including a champions league striker? And he brought in many loan players?

 

What would be different this time? Where ever the guy has gone he has done poor, in fact he has got nearly 70% of his teams relegated. If we are giving out jobs to those who have remained loyal then we all should be given the job, we would do just as good a job.

 

 

Correct. The only reasons people are giving seem to be

 

a) "stood by us" in difficult times.

 

b) "stability" is the greatest gift a football club could ever be given and the next managerial appointment is definitely going to be worse than the current incumbent.

 

Neither reason stand up to any scrunity whatsoever, and neither stand up to the cold hard fact that Mark Wotte is a proven failure everywhere he's been, has no relevent experience of the division we now find ourselves. And he played a massive part in our relegation in the first place.

 

Boot him out and fresh start with a new broom.

[London Saint]

Its on the BBC now:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8136389.stm

 

come on you Swiss!

[CB Fry]

Blimey your on one today aint ya.

 

I said you "seem" to pin. Dont have a go at me because you dont read my posts right. I gave an opinion on things you said. I didnt insult you or make anything up or have a go at you. My 1st sentance joked how your post "Seemed" to me. Now settle down grandpa and drink your milk.

 

I went on to say I dont think Wotte is long term but given our situation "I think" he is worth a period to see what he can do under different circumstances. I am not buying the club so I have no idea what will happen and what ever does happen I will support it.

 

I dont want to right off this coming season but right now we are selling assets to pay wages, no season ticket sales even being spoken about, out of contract players waiting just incase we get taken over and some offers can be made, those same out of contract players looking to find a club so they can get a pre-season with that club as they cant wait for ever here, -10 points ready and waiting for us in a few weeks and a pretty grim time of it trying to adjust to league 1.

 

So forgive me for thinking a bit of stability followed by a decent fresh start next season is not a bad idea.

 

If the take over happens sooner rather than later and there is a rush of activity with manager and team and staff then fantastic. even with -10 the feel good factor and new ideas may be enough for a fantastic season. but the longer the uncertenty goes the harder it will be "IMO"

 

 

 

Why on earth do we have to wait an entire season for a "decent fresh start". Why can't we have a "decent fresh start" next week?

 

Come next April we could be eight points of the play offs and people will still think "if we win the next couple we could be in there", which is fair enough. It's called belief, and it happens every year.

 

But you are writing off the whole of next season before we've even played our pre season game at home. 128 points to go for but you've chucked the season in the bin.

We can get in the play offs next season.

But I don't think we can with Wotte.

[Wes Tender]

Correct. The only reasons people are giving seem to be

 

a) "stood by us" in difficult times.

 

b) "stability" is the greatest gift a football club could ever be given and the next managerial appointment is definitely going to be worse than the current incumbent.

 

Neither reason stand up to any scrunity whatsoever, and neither stand up to the cold hard fact that Mark Wotte is a proven failure everywhere he's been, has no relevent experience of the division we now find ourselves. And he played a massive part in our relegation in the first place.

 

Boot him out and fresh start with a new broom.

 

Agree totally. This stability card is becoming boring. It was alright for the previous chairman (his name escapes me) having a manager a year, so why should we keep on one of his appointees for the sake of stability when he never could? Having got shot of him and his board, having had half the squad leave, it surely makes sense to have a clean sweep of the manager too and make a fresh start of new owners, new manager and new players.

 

Once the detritus of last season has all been swept away, then the stability can begin with the new people, providing it is somebody viable like the Swiss, rather than the other clowns, that is.

[Plonko]

Good luck to Ben as well.[-o<...to be honest even the missus and kidzz listen not to my expert advice anymore. src="%7B___base_url___%7D/uploads/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d0109cfe86307600e50ca0e8c565d441.gif" alt=":D">....They usually say...Leave it for your buddies on the forum. Who are they you may well ask...

 

Is Ben the same or does he do something different to sexlexus...Or am I getting to know even more famous peeps?

 

Wotte out and Ben in..I say;)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Spies

 

He's pretty spectacular.

 

[Plonko]

Anyway, back to the subject in hand, I'd say give Wotte a chance.

[SW11_Saint]

Agree totally. This stability card is becoming boring. It was alright for the previous chairman (his name escapes me) having a manager a year, so why should we keep on one of his appointees for the sake of stability when he never could? Having got shot of him and his board, having had half the squad leave, it surely makes sense to have a clean sweep of the manager too and make a fresh start of new owners, new manager and new players.

 

Once the detritus of last season has all been swept away, then the stability can begin with the new people, providing it is somebody viable like the Swiss, rather than the other clowns, that is.

I agree we do need a new mangement team, and a new start.

 

That said, my stance on Wotte has softened somewhat, so if there's a role in the Academy, or perhaps scouting in Europe I wouldn't be too put out if he got that.

[SW11_Saint]

Roberto Mancini is still looking...

[krissyboy31]

Roberto Mancini is still looking...

 

And Robert De Nero's waiting!!!

[aintforever]

Wotte hasn't done that bad but the harsh reality is that there are other people out there with better cvs and a new face would give everyone a boost.

[Justin C]

I think they will stick with Wotte. I am pleased it lookd like we will be saved but I can't see anyone spending millions on us.

[saintjay77]

Why on earth do we have to wait an entire season for a "decent fresh start". Why can't we have a "decent fresh start" next week?

 

Come next April we could be eight points of the play offs and people will still think "if we win the next couple we could be in there", which is fair enough. It's called belief, and it happens every year.

 

But you are writing off the whole of next season before we've even played our pre season game at home. 128 points to go for but you've chucked the season in the bin.

We can get in the play offs next season.

But I don't think we can with Wotte.

 

IF we are taken over by next week and the new owners bring in Keegan or who ever they think will be good enough for the job they will get my full support.

 

The sooner it happens the better chance we have of reaching the play offs. I dont dissagree with you on that at all.

 

I just dont think we will be taken over by next week. I believe in all liklyhood we will still be hoping the takeover completes on the day of our 1st match in league 1.

 

Which is obviously the best time to boot the guy that has prepared for next season with hardly any players and bring in someone else that has nothing but an empty shell to work with. I dont care who you bring in at that stage as they all will have a mamoth job keeping us in League 1 let alone getting us to the playoffs.

 

So I say again, the longer this goes on the more I will understand if Wotte gets the nod for next season. As long as he see's us safe under the above circumstances I will be happy. The following season we should launch all out war on the league and get the right people in to manage and play. If all is going arse up then do it at Xmas. I dont want Wotte to stay because I think he is the right man for the job or because i think he is something special. I dont even want him to stay. I am just being realistic with what we may have on offer next season.

 

When we see on the OS that we have new owners that are ready to buy our way back up the leagues then I will get all excited about beating the -10 points. Send me your crystal ball to show me when thats going to happen though please.

[mcjwills]

And Robert De Nero's waiting!!!

 

Yeah but he's not as good as Robert De Niro

[wightman35]

Yeah but he's not as good as Robert De Niro

 

No and I'll bet he's on the fiddle.

[mcjwills]

No and I'll bet he's on the fiddle.

 

What he will want a transfer away from ROMA next

[CB Fry]

IF we are taken over by next week and the new owners bring in Keegan or who ever they think will be good enough for the job they will get my full support.

 

The sooner it happens the better chance we have of reaching the play offs. I dont dissagree with you on that at all.

 

I just dont think we will be taken over by next week. I believe in all liklyhood we will still be hoping the takeover completes on the day of our 1st match in league 1.

 

Which is obviously the best time to boot the guy that has prepared for next season with hardly any players and bring in someone else that has nothing but an empty shell to work with. I dont care who you bring in at that stage as they all will have a mamoth job keeping us in League 1 let alone getting us to the playoffs.

 

So I say again, the longer this goes on the more I will understand if Wotte gets the nod for next season. As long as he see's us safe under the above circumstances I will be happy. The following season we should launch all out war on the league and get the right people in to manage and play. If all is going arse up then do it at Xmas. I dont want Wotte to stay because I think he is the right man for the job or because i think he is something special. I dont even want him to stay. I am just being realistic with what we may have on offer next season.

 

When we see on the OS that we have new owners that are ready to buy our way back up the leagues then I will get all excited about beating the -10 points. Send me your crystal ball to show me when thats going to happen though please.

 

 

We're in endgame on the takeover - neither league nor creditors will let this go on until the first game of the season.

 

And its not about buying our way up the league - we're only in League one, we don't need a multi million pound squad you know. We just need a competent manager, and Wotte isn't that.

 

You've written a few lengthy posts on this thread and still the only compelling reason you have given for keeping Wotte is this paralysing fear of "not being stable", like changing a manager is a shortcut to destruction. You haven't actually said why Wotte is the best person for the job or any boring details like that.

 

But anyway...

 

Everton sacked Walter Smith and went into chaos disaster and doom under his replacement.

 

Arsenal sacked Bruce Rioch and never ever recovered from the spiralling crisis with the fans never forgiving their trigger happy board.

 

Portsmouth took the suicidal decision not to stick with Graham Rix, a decision that has haunted them for many seasons since.

 

Remember. Never, ever change manager. Ever.

[SaintRobbie]

Correct. The only reasons people are giving seem to be

 

a) "stood by us" in difficult times.

 

b) "stability" is the greatest gift a football club could ever be given and the next managerial appointment is definitely going to be worse than the current incumbent.

 

Neither reason stand up to any scrunity whatsoever, and neither stand up to the cold hard fact that Mark Wotte is a proven failure everywhere he's been, has no relevent experience of the division we now find ourselves. And he played a massive part in our relegation in the first place.

 

Boot him out and fresh start with a new broom.

 

+ 1... you'll be surprised to hear TDD!

[SaintRobbie]

Wotte hasn't done that bad but the harsh reality is that there are other people out there with better cvs and a new face would give everyone a boost.

 

You're right... relegation is not all that bad really.

[saintjay77]

We're in endgame on the takeover - neither league nor creditors will let this go on until the first game of the season.

 

And its not about buying our way up the league - we're only in League one, we don't need a multi million pound squad you know. We just need a competent manager, and Wotte isn't that.

 

You've written a few lengthy posts on this thread and still the only compelling reason you have given for keeping Wotte is this paralysing fear of "not being stable", like changing a manager is a shortcut to destruction. You haven't actually said why Wotte is the best person for the job or any boring details like that.

 

But anyway...

 

Everton sacked Walter Smith and went into chaos disaster and doom under his replacement.

 

Arsenal sacked Bruce Rioch and never ever recovered from the spiralling crisis with the fans never forgiving their trigger happy board.

 

Portsmouth took the suicidal decision not to stick with Graham Rix, a decision that has haunted them for many seasons since.

 

Remember. Never, ever change manager. Ever.

 

Jesus you got a hard head aint ya?

 

Where have I said I wanted to stick with Wotte? I have just explained why I would understand if he stays on and that I will support him and the team with it. I dont expect him to get the job long term and think if he gets it short term he will have to achieve promotion this season to be in with a shout of staying longer. Something that aint going to happen is it?

 

Rupes did well with his manager merry-go-round didnt he? I dont think sticking with a manager or going through loads is the deciding factor in success or failure but I think timing and choice is.

 

We have been a signature away from being taken over before and got no-where so untill we see the headlines saying its a done deal we can assume that the situation is exactly what it is now. If they take over tomorrow and have someone lined up then brilliant. We have time to build and plan a new future and we can really challenge to beat the -10.

 

If they give Wotte a chance then fair enough. He has had a few high profile jobs in his homeland and seems to be fairly well respected so his results dont match up with the respect he seems to have. I dont take the results from last season and pin the blame on Wotte and I dont think getting rid because Lowe brought him here is a good enough reason to not back him either.

 

Given a more stable enviroment and some good preperations I think he can do a better job than he appeared to do last term. Especially in league 1. I base this on nothin more than my opinion which is worth jack.

 

But Wotte out! if it makes you feel any better

[ozzmeister]

I cant be arsed to read through the whole thread so apologies if already mentioned but hasnt Reid been linked in the press recently?

[SaintRobbie]

Those saying Wotte should be given a chance etc.. Was being in charge for half our games last year not a chance then? Even though he was free to play the players Jan was not including a champions league striker? And he brought in many loan players?

 

What would be different this time? Where ever the guy has gone he has done poor, in fact he has got nearly 70% of his teams relegated. If we are giving out jobs to those who have remained loyal then we all should be given the job, we would do just as good a job.

 

At last I am reading sense.... where have you lot been this week whilst I've been holding the fort on this!?

[SaintRobbie]

Just noticed that if you add some letters and take some others away from 'Liebherr' it's actually an anagram of 'Sack Wotte.'

[Nineteen Canteen]

Wotte.

 

About time this club started to reward loyalty, tact and diplomacy. Until the point of administration and given what he had to work with, Wotte was turning this club around but the distraction of some ridiculous external influences undermined him. He deserves a 2 years contract to try and overcome the deduction and failing that get promoted the following season.

 

The Swiss are not going to throw money at this club until things have settled down and they get a greater understanding of what they have as an asset and assess its potential. Wotte will give them some initial stability.

[Fowllyd]

Wotte.

 

About time this club started to reward loyalty, tact and diplomacy. Until the point of administration and given what he had to work with, Wotte was turning this club around but the distraction of some ridiculous external influences undermined him. He deserves a 2 years contract to try and overcome the deduction and failing that get promoted the following season.

 

The Swiss are not going to throw money at this club until things have settled down and they get a greater understanding of what they have as an asset and assess its potential. Wotte will give them some initial stability.

 

Oh my, but you are soooo droll...

[Nineteen Canteen]

Oh my, but you are soooo droll...

 

Quite, but not in this instance. Wotte deserves a 2 year contract minimum with Killer alongside him. We are going to be very classy and European looking club with an initially guarded outlook to ensure our future security. Can't wait given the past few months about 37 of them to be precise.

 

Slowly slowly catchee monkey

[Fowllyd]

Quite, but not in this instance. Wotte deserves a 2 year contract minimum with Killer alongside him. We are going to be very classy and European looking club with an initially guarded outlook to ensure our future security. Can't wait given the past few months about 37 of them to be precise.

 

Slowly slowly catchee monkey

 

Well, as long as the catering's world class I'll be a happy man. Anything else is a mere bagatelle in comparison.

[saintjay77]

Quite, but not in this instance. Wotte deserves a 2 year contract minimum with Killer alongside him. We are going to be very classy and European looking club with an initially guarded outlook to ensure our future security. Can't wait given the past few months about 37 of them to be precise.

 

Slowly slowly catchee monkey

 

I cant see what Wotte has done so wrong given that our club is riddled with problems but I think its far fetched to think he will head us and make us look classy or european.

 

I think he will do no more than OK this coming season which will see us safe but to move forward we will need someone new IMO.

 

Id be happy for new owners to come in and familerise themselves with the club and take things at a steady pace and if that means keeping Wotte for 6 to 12 months then fine but I think a decission to give Wotte a 2 year contract would be bizare to say the least.

[greg_hill]

Keegan seems the best choice. He;s a big name and would only come here because of his history with us and the fact it's not worked out elsewhere. It would be a great morale boost.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I cant see what Wotte has done so wrong given that our club is riddled with problems but I think its far fetched to think he will head us and make us look classy or european.

 

I think he will do no more than OK this coming season which will see us safe but to move forward we will need someone new IMO.

 

Id be happy for new owners to come in and familerise themselves with the club and take things at a steady pace and if that means keeping Wotte for 6 to 12 months then fine but I think a decission to give Wotte a 2 year contract would be bizare to say the least.

 

Classy and European...I was referring to our new owners of which Wotte will be able to contribute and integrate better than some typical loutish English Manager IMO at least the type we will be able to afford. Swiss being Swiss I will be amazed if they don't reward Wotte's professionalism and loyalty and likewise many fans will be queuing up to be the monkey in his back because of his past record and connections, like Pearson had such a great record before he left. Times are changing at SFC and as fans so do should we.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Well, as long as the catering's world class I'll be a happy man. Anything else is a mere bagatelle in comparison.

 

Fondue all round, you can dip your own cheese in your own sauce.

[saintjay77]

Classy and European...I was referring to our new owners of which Wotte will be able to contribute and integrate better than some typical loutish English Manager IMO at least the type we will be able to afford. Swiss being Swiss I will be amazed if they don't reward Wotte's professionalism and loyalty and likewise many fans will be queuing up to be the monkey in his back because of his past record and connections, like Pearson had such a great record before he left. Times are changing at SFC and as fans so do should we.

 

I hope any new owners live up to the expectation or at least are better than any oof the previous lot.

 

But I also hope they choose there managment team based on ability. Personally I see Wotte as no more than a stop gap as I dont think he has the ability to take us upwards as far as we want to go. Think its worth giving him a chance this season though.

[Draino76]

Quite, but not in this instance. Wotte deserves a 2 year contract minimum with Killer alongside him. We are going to be very classy and European looking club with an initially guarded outlook to ensure our future security. Can't wait given the past few months about 37 of them to be precise.

 

Slowly slowly catchee monkey

 

The easiest way to catch a monkey is with a gun. Which by coincidence could be used on Wotte.

[saintedwill]

Just a few thoughts:

 

Keegan - only ever does well when he's allowed to pay well over the odds on mainly average players. Walks when put under pressure and tactically is at about the level of League One. A spent force in management?

 

Strachan - Would he come back?

 

Curbishley - Spent many years at Charlton to build what was basically an average team that Strachan managed to do with us in about a season. People bang on about him, but for the time he was at Charlton, how good is his record?

 

Pearson - saved us from relegation, but has started the job at Leicester that he wasn't allowed to here. Would he leave to start something new or finish what he started?

 

So there are a few negatives.

 

My personal choice would be to team a promising young manager like Tisdale with someone like Coppell as DoF.

 

I'll be back later with more negatives for them

[Thedelldays]

Just a few thoughts:

 

Keegan - only ever does well when he's allowed to pay well over the odds on mainly average players. Walks when put under pressure and tactically is at about the level of League One. A spent force in management?

 

Strachan - Would he come back?

 

Curbishley - Spent many years at Charlton to build what was basically an average team that Strachan managed to do with us in about a season. People bang on about him, but for the time he was at Charlton, how good is his record?

 

Pearson - saved us from relegation, but has started the job at Leicester that he wasn't allowed to here. Would he leave to start something new or finish what he started?

 

So there are a few negatives.

 

My personal choice would be to team a promising young manager like Tisdale with someone like Coppell as DoF.

 

I'll be back later with more negatives for them

tisdale..

 

lol

[alpine_saint]

I recognise that Wotte had a really tough job to do under crap club background set-up, but the club really needs a complete clean sweep.

 

I would like to see a completely different first team line-up to last season by Xmas too.

[saintjay77]

I recognise that Wotte had a really tough job to do under crap club background set-up, but the club really needs a complete clean sweep.

 

I would like to see a completely different first team line-up to last season by Xmas too.

 

LOL cant argue with that. My only reason for being happy to give Wotte a chance this season is down to timing. The longer it takes to be taken over the more I would rather him be kept on to give the new owners a chance to put there rebuilding plans on the table. If they took over a month ago and went with Wotte I would be scratching my head in disbelief as surely a clean sweep is the best way forward.

[SaintRobbie]

Wotte.

 

About time this club started to reward loyalty, tact and diplomacy. Until the point of administration and given what he had to work with, Wotte was turning this club around but the distraction of some ridiculous external influences undermined him. He deserves a 2 years contract to try and overcome the deduction and failing that get promoted the following season.

 

The Swiss are not going to throw money at this club until things have settled down and they get a greater understanding of what they have as an asset and assess its potential. Wotte will give them some initial stability.

 

Even though he's crap on the pitch tactically and as CB Fry has eloquently pointed out has relegated 70% of the teams he's been with?

 

Initial stability can last 24 hours after the takeover, but please no longer. The easiest way the new owners can win over the vast majority of fans is to put in a new manager. Sticking with Wotte will just cause division and smells of a failed past. Nah 19, blokes crap - loyal or not, there are better out there.