Mr X Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think Wotte has earned a chance. I'd only replace him if someone with a consistent history of success at different clubs was available - and TBH unless the new owner were going to splash silly money I cant see anyone of that ilk being prepared to move down to Lg1. How? by not leaving a sinking ship or by getting us relegated? his commitment is comendable but there are clearly better options surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I agree, his behaviour throughout this has been exemplary and he deserves a chance without any question. It's totally unfair to judge him on last season, I have to say that chopping and changing managers has not got us far in the past. Well in fact that's wrong, it's got us all the way down to League 1 ! I'd be looking at an experienced assistant, I'd like someone like Micky Adams with a Saints background though whether he would come here as an assistant if doubtful. Micky Adams is not going to leave a manager's job at Port Vale to be assistant to Wotte. Personally, I would be gutted if the first thing the new people did (whoever they are) was to confirm Wotte's appointment for the rest of the season. He's got to go, immediately. Don't let the last few weeks cloud your judgement, don't sh*g him just because he's been really supportive when you had a "tough time". Come October he'll still be the same ugly wierdo from the pub but now he's a clingy as fu** weirdo who you now can't shake off because he "thinks he loves you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eharty9 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 i want wotte to have involvment with the first team! i know im on my own but i love him! however bad a coach he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 For me i would be happy with either one of these Keegan Pearson Joe Kinnear Gary Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 For me i would be happy with either one of these Keegan Pearson Joe Kinnear Gary Johnson never ever going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 never ever going to happen... The world of football has it surprises you know... anything can happen in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Come on you Numpties it will be José Mário dos Santos Félix Mourinho, and we will be playing Real Madrid in the Champions League by next Christmas. If I was in a job and every man and his dog was saying I will be out the door as soon as the new money takes over I would be pretty miffed. So come on guys lets be a little bit more sensitive towards a guy with a family to support, probably a mortgage to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The world of football has it surprises you know... anything can happen in football Actually, no it can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Its unlikely the new owners (may tomorrow bring them on) will provide huge amounts of cash at the outset, as to do so might provoke problems over the money paid to the Administrators for the club. Fans might need to be patient for a while. What on earth are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarum saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Personally, I'd like to see Wotte given a chance. The morale was shot to pieces and we were set for relegation anyway when he took over. So given free rein to choose his own team, and without dressing room morale down the toilet, he could do well. If Wotte wasn't to remain in charge however, looking at realistic targets, I'd like to see Aidy Boothroyd in charge. I agree Wotte deserves a chance with a level (financial ) playing field as I feel that he at least has the dressing room on his side and will provide some stability. Could use a decent british coach to back him up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 For me i would be happy with either one of these Keegan Pearson Joe Kinnear Gary Johnson Managing Southampton FC would finish Kinnear off. :smt073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I know what you are going to say, but Glenn Hoddle has to be a serious contender. Really? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 would rather fresh face than pearson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The stupidest thread in a long time - and that takes some doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Halo* Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I would not be averse to Wotte being given a chance, based solely on the professionalism he has shown over the course of this stressful administration period, although in my own mind, to offer him the position based on that alone, would be counter productive. I am very thankful to Mark Wotte for the professional way that he has carried himself through these testing times, but we have to also take other facets into consideration, and from my own perspective of what I've seen of his coaching 'ability', I cannot personally see that he is the right man to take us forward. If I have to sit through another season of that catastrophic diamond formation, I think I might just spontaneously combust under the exasperation. I would still like to see Paul Tisdale here next season. Rather than retype my reasons for that choice, I previously explained them in this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 People genuinely thinking that Pearson is a realistic choice along with Coppell, Strachan and Hoddle = Retarded. People thinking Shearer would be a good choice = Idiots. I thought the Swiss had told Wotte he is there man. Can't see it being anything other than Wotte personally. And personally i'm happier with him than Pearson or ****ing Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I thought the Swiss had told Wotte he is there man. Can't see it being anything other than Wotte personally. And personally i'm happier with him than Pearson or ****ing Shearer. I really wonder what makes people like you tick..........:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 People genuinely thinking that Pearson is a realistic choice along with Coppell, Strachan and Hoddle = Retarded. People thinking Shearer would be a good choice = Idiots. I thought the Swiss had told Wotte he is there man. Can't see it being anything other than Wotte personally. And personally i'm happier with him than Pearson or ****ing Shearer. In the words of McEnroe, you canot be serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Wotte has behaved conspicuously honourably, and has shown loyalty and committment, over a very difficult few months. His results weren't bad in the circumstances; the damage was done when Lowe returned, and Wotte was left to firefight. I doubt that we will get a manager proven to be better. IMO he should be given a chance, aand if he proves incompetent then he can be replaced at the New year. I'd rather a known quantity who wants to stay than an unproven mercenary, who would be off at the first chance of a better job in the higher divisions. Also remember we are in the Third division with a ten point decuction and not a particularly attractive prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I think Wotte has earned his chance. Let's face it, on -10 and virtually no players, promotion is not on the agenda, but a bit of stability and regrouping would do us no harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Wotte has behaved conspicuously honourably, and has shown loyalty and committment, over a very difficult few months. His results weren't bad in the circumstances; the damage was done when Lowe returned, and Wotte was left to firefight. I doubt that we will get a manager proven to be better. IMO he should be given a chance, aand if he proves incompetent then he can be replaced at the New year. I'd rather a known quantity who wants to stay than an unproven mercenary, who would be off at the first chance of a better job in the higher divisions. Also remember we are in the Third division with a ten point decuction and not a particularly attractive prospect. I think Wotte has earned his chance. Let's face it, on -10 and virtually no players, promotion is not on the agenda, but a bit of stability and regrouping would do us no harm It's attitudes like this that really get my goat:mad: How many here have experiance of competing in a sport at national level or above? Yeah, thought not! I compete in a sport where skill, bravery, courage, and mental strength are required in spades. To enter any sporting endevour with anything other than 100% belief that you can beat everyone your up against is asking for defeat, before you've started. Adversity is just another opertunity to show everyone how good you are by overcoming and still beating them! To many loosers on this board, we don't need them at the club as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I think Wotte has earned his chance. Let's face it, on -10 and virtually no players, promotion is not on the agenda, but a bit of stability and regrouping would do us no harm Remind me what Wotte has done to "earn his chance". Must have been a different manager completely involved in the worst season we have suffered for thirty years or is my memory playing tricks? Wotte didn't walk out on us because this is the best job he is going to get in football anywhere in the world. Let's not kid ourselves that he is britains most loyal servant. Wotte out, tomorrow. "Stability" under Wotte is the last thing we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Sorry chaps, but reading between the lines http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4475291.Wotte_s_Egypt_U_turn/?ref=eb It looks like MW is here to stay, at least in the short term. Lets give him a chance eh?? Personally I feel last season he was constrained by RL and the way 'he' wanted the football to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 It's attitudes like this that really get my goat:mad: How many here have experiance of competing in a sport at national level or above? Yeah, thought not! I compete in a sport where skill, bravery, courage, and mental strength are required in spades. To enter any sporting endevour with anything other than 100% belief that you can beat everyone your up against is asking for defeat, before you've started. Adversity is just another opertunity to show everyone how good you are by overcoming and still beating them! To many loosers on this board, we don't need them at the club as well! So after 37 posts you finally get an opportunity to tell us how skillful, brave and mentally strong you are - at a national level no less. Bravo. Can you also explain what a "looser" is because I can't find it in the dictionary? Something to do with not liking things too tight perhaps? Maybe you have achieved your sporting brilliance by skipping your English classes at school. What a self-centred knob (IMHO of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 It's attitudes like this that really get my goat:mad: How many here have experiance of competing in a sport at national level or above? Yeah, thought not! I compete in a sport where skill, bravery, courage, and mental strength are required in spades. To enter any sporting endevour with anything other than 100% belief that you can beat everyone your up against is asking for defeat, before you've started. Adversity is just another opertunity to show everyone how good you are by overcoming and still beating them! To many loosers on this board, we don't need them at the club as well! what sport...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Remind me what Wotte has done to "earn his chance". Must have been a different manager completely involved in the worst season we have suffered for thirty years or is my memory playing tricks? Wotte didn't walk out on us because this is the best job he is going to get in football anywhere in the world. Let's not kid ourselves that he is britains most loyal servant. Wotte out, tomorrow. "Stability" under Wotte is the last thing we need. I love the way you seem to pin all the problems on Wotte, like getting another manager will suddenly sort all the issues from the past 5 years or so. IMO the worst season was when we went down with Redcrap. Dropping out of the prem caused a chain reaction that ultimatly led to where we are now. I wouldnt say Wotte is the best for the job but I think he would do better under different cicumstances. Given that by the time we actually do get taken over he might be worth keeping for the coming season as any plans for a push up the league surly wont seriously get into full swing untill the season after. If a new manager is needed to get that done then that would be the perfect time to get the right man. More Lowe-esk type manager merry-go-round is not what our club needs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 what sport...? Darts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 what sport...?Knot "loosening" ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Daniel Passarella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Daniel Passarella Lawrie once tried to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Harry Redknapp or Tony Adams???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Wotte is the Manager - end of story. What is the point in speculating now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 So after 37 posts you finally get an opportunity to tell us how skillful, brave and mentally strong you are - at a national level no less. Bravo. Can you also explain what a "looser" is because I can't find it in the dictionary? Something to do with not liking things too tight perhaps? Maybe you have achieved your sporting brilliance by skipping your English classes at school. What a self-centred knob (IMHO of course). Sorry, did that come across as boasting ? I was merely trying to point out that I had a little experiance with winning and so my point was valid. As for my spelling and gramar....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Sorry, did that come across as boasting ? I was merely trying to point out that I had a little experiance with winning and so my point was valid. As for my spelling and gramar....... what sport.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Ramon Vega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 what sport...? Motorcycle racing. Currently competing in the KTM RC8 supercup at the BSB meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Motorcycle racing. Currently competing in the KTM RC8 supercup at the BSB meetings. have no idea what KTM RC8 is...but good luck mate..hope you win:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Motorcycle racing. Currently competing in the KTM RC8 supercup at the BSB meetings. is that the scrambler type things that do the big jumps and the bumpy bits or road racing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 is that the scrambler type things that do the big jumps and the bumpy bits or road racing? sounds good though.. http://www.ktm.co.uk/News-Events.211.19.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Sorry, did that come across as boasting ? I was merely trying to point out that I had a little experiance with winning and so my point was valid. As for my spelling and gramar....... Even the amateur sportsmen among us know that a poor mental attitude gets you a poor result. I find that out every time I stand on the 18th tee with a decent score under my belt and start thinking about all the places I don't want my ball to go. But it is the mental attitude of the coaches and players that matters, not the idle ramblings of the supporters on this forum. I think you were berating some people for having a less than positive attitude about the coming season as if it would make any difference. Now, if Wotte was to go to press with the same negativity I would agree with you....but he hasn't. He has been appointed Manager too, so like it or not that is what we are going with this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Any of - Ince, Coppell, Dowie, Keegan - for various different reasons. For stability etc. I think Coppell might be a good choice, although I think he fancies some time away from the game. Ince may be heading back to MKD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Any of - Ince, Coppell, Dowie, Keegan - for various different reasons. For stability etc. I think Coppell might be a good choice, although I think he fancies some time away from the game. Ince may be heading back to MKD's. Already there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 sounds good though.. http://www.ktm.co.uk/News-Events.211.19.html yeah looks good. guess they need to be a bit fitter to do that then play Darts lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Motorcycle racing. Currently competing in the KTM RC8 supercup at the BSB meetings. I had a KTM moped in 1980. I certainly needed a positive mental attitude when trying to get the bloody thing to start, and plenty of bravery when I eventually got going :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Motorcycle racing. Currently competing in the KTM RC8 supercup at the BSB meetings. How far off is the day when you become RICH and Famous and put a bid in for Saints?.....Mind you if you have a couple of hundred quid you could already be ahead of a few wanabees...Before you lot start did I mention Jacko or Rupert... coyrs[-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 There are loads of Managers better than Wotte. IMO he is only just up to sunday morning Parks League standard, the cheap option last season, and we got what we paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 is that the scrambler type things that do the big jumps and the bumpy bits or road racing? This is me. http://www.rc8supercup.com/Thruxton-Round-6.102016.0.html 3rd pic. Number 19. Can we get back on topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 For me it has to be the dream team of Wotte AND Poortvleit. After the performances at the beginning of last season (who can forget the way the team nearly bravely held their own against Celtic) I can't think of a better plan. Am I mad - or just a total tw*t ? (I'd go for Dowie by the way - effective at this level, likeable, inoffensive and a grafter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Even the amateur sportsmen among us know that a poor mental attitude gets you a poor result. I find that out every time I stand on the 18th tee with a decent score under my belt and start thinking about all the places I don't want my ball to go. But it is the mental attitude of the coaches and players that matters, not the idle ramblings of the supporters on this forum. I think you were berating some people for having a less than positive attitude about the coming season as if it would make any difference. Now, if Wotte was to go to press with the same negativity I would agree with you....but he hasn't. He has been appointed Manager too, so like it or not that is what we are going with this season. I don't like it, not one bit. However I do have respect for the guy given his proffesional attitude during difficult times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Daniel Passarella Haircuts all round then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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