kpturner Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Lowe Luvvies are traitors and you don't forgive traitors at the drop of a hat.You missed off the little winking face too Stanley ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Lowe Luvvies are traitors and you don't forgive traitors at the drop of a hat. I have been called a Luvvie on many occasions, i prefer the word realist or understanding of the need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Great idea, how do I put him on my ignore list, where is the ignore list??? User CP then "Edit Ignore list" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You missed off the little winking face too Stanley ;-) The winky thing wasn't required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 But he's not though Manji is he, he's an attention seeking argumentative troll! Everyone who posts on this forum is "attention seeking" - that is what we all do it for whether we admit it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The winky thing wasn't required. Now you've upset the winky thing :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have been called a Luvvie on many occasions, i prefer the word realist or understanding of the need. Nineteen Troll have you stolen Nickh's login? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 NC articulates a minority view on this forum with too much spite and nastiness. Perhaps he feels he has to in order to get his point over. I do however think that the majority of us can appreciate where he comes from although we may not agree and I agree the forum would be less interesting without him !! Less personal attacks would be welcome At the end of the day we all support Southampton and should unite behind the club. Perhaps when the Swiss are in and we can finally see that Lowe is not returning we will be able to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 User CP then "Edit Ignore list" Got all excited and put him on my ignore list, went straight on to "supposing if" post and brilliant his post has gone :-) scrolled down and someone has quoted him and the his post is there :-( sh1t. Think the only real way to stop him is to actualy ignore him, I know its hard but completely blank him, try it everyone, don't reply, don't argue, don't do anything, come on, we can do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have been called a Luvvie on many occasions, i prefer the word realist or understanding of the need. I think you have always been a realist in that you supported Lowe given the facts presented. Not knowing that alternatives would be out there you pretty much stuck with the devil you knew. Nothing wrong with that except that it takes a little imagination, idealism and will-generation to move on from that position to find something better. That has always been selling the club on to someone better. And there have been many who'd have taken us on, particularly last year. Realist maybe... but when idealism was needed most. Taking a risk more often produces results. Supporting a chap with a track record of failure is more likely to result in further failure. And it did... until Barclays did the deed that I suspect will go down in Saints history as one of the most important decision's made for the success that will now follow upon takeover closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Got all excited and put him on my ignore list, went straight on to "supposing if" post and brilliant his post has gone :-) scrolled down and someone has quoted him and the his post is there :-( sh1t. Think the only real way to stop him is to actualy ignore him, I know its hard but completely blank him, try it everyone, don't reply, don't argue, don't do anything, come on, we can do it!!!You'll soon get bored. Eventually you end up with a load to people who agree entirely - then you might as well just sit in a circle nodding at each other until you pass out or lose your mind(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Nineteen Troll have you stolen Nickh's login?Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The winky thing wasn't required.Then you are an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You'll soon get bored. Eventually you end up with a load to people who agree entirely - then you might as well just sit in a circle nodding at each other until you pass out or lose your mind(s). I don't mind debate or different opinions but that **** just wants to argue. He has no opinion at all, he's just an antagonist, ignore him completely i say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Then you are an idiot kpturner in 'realising that the penny has just dropped' headline? I have, at times, had the abstract theory that 19 and Stan were one and the same. Just, sadly, suffering from a touch of Bi-polar disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 kpturner in 'realising that the penny has just dropped' headline? I have, at times, had the abstract theory that 19 and Stan were one and the same. Just, sadly, suffering from a touch of Bi-polar disorder. I might have known you'd jump on the bandwagon although tell taling private messages is more your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 But he's not though Manji is he, he's an attention seeking argumentative troll! Guess what. Just by having a go at him if he is what a lot on here think, he must be wetting himself in hysterics at all those who want their five penny worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 As a reasonably infrequent poster on here I suspect I am going to make myself unpopular on here. Although I see 19C has the ability to wind people up, I do se a line of truth behind what he says and start a reply by insulting someone says more about the yourself than the person you are replying to. I don't see the Rupert Lowe debate as black and white. I see Rupert Lowe as an arrogant, socially inept (when it comes to to fans) individual who gained too much pleasure in seeing himself in the limelight. I also think that his unwillingness to lose the purse strings was part of the reason behind our fall from grace, but there are enough examples of clubs doing so and still failing (Charlton and Ipswich come to mind). I do not however think he would have made the mistakes of Wilde, and "gone for bust!" I do not think the club would have gone under if Lowe had stayed in charge. I agree we would have been a divided club, with fans and chairman at loggerheads. Lowes bottom line was always the balance sheet, and the large wages and fees sanctioned by Wilde would not have been allowed. As for the Dutch experiment which ultimately failed. Would Pearson have stayed on under the financial constraints imposed on JP? Would many managers have done better?Should we have sold a number of players in the last transfer window, yes i suspect so, bt not even Lowe was willing to mange the vittrol of the fans by doing so. I also believe Wotte should be given a chance. He took over a ship that was already sinking with two hands tied behind his back, a very young squad whose confidence had been shot to pieces, and next to no ability to bring players in when needed. What he has done is remain loyal to the club when he has had the option to walk away to something more stable. He is attempting to plan for next season, even when at our darkest hour, most of us really started to question whether the club would actually survive. Too many posters on here expect instant gratification. There was a general consensus on this board that we would struggle last year and the team would blow hot and cold. This happened, but instead of supporting the players posters started to slag them off. We need to remember how old these kids are and the fact that they are only just beginning their careers. Take James, slagged off to heaven before Xmas, but gradually finding his feet. Or MS, who many of you think is "****". I would prefer to take the view the view of the French coaches who make him their under 20 captain. How would most of us lot cope with moving away from home at 18 to a new country, play in a league far more physical league, in a struggling team, and a diveded fan base! Can we all except that we have no preordained right to be in the prem or the champ.. If we finish mid table next year can fans stop shouting how poor we are and except that we are starting again, and the likes of Yeovil are playing us as equals. We do have a past and a heritage to be proud of, but that is the past. Lets go into next season with a smile on our faces, with realistic expections, knowing we are lucky to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Good to see the Saints fans on this Forum united as one once again....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Good to see the PC crew are out in force again. They irritate me far more than 19C ever could. Nothing like a good old 'you can't say that' on an internet forum to make my blood pressure really rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 As a reasonably infrequent poster on here I suspect I am going to make myself unpopular on here. Although I see 19C has the ability to wind people up, I do se a line of truth behind what he says and start a reply by insulting someone says more about the yourself than the person you are replying to. I don't see the Rupert Lowe debate as black and white. I see Rupert Lowe as an arrogant, socially inept (when it comes to to fans) individual who gained too much pleasure in seeing himself in the limelight. I also think that his unwillingness to lose the purse strings was part of the reason behind our fall from grace, but there are enough examples of clubs doing so and still failing (Charlton and Ipswich come to mind). I do not however think he would have made the mistakes of Wilde, and "gone for bust!" I do not think the club would have gone under if Lowe had stayed in charge. I agree we would have been a divided club, with fans and chairman at loggerheads. Lowes bottom line was always the balance sheet, and the large wages and fees sanctioned by Wilde would not have been allowed. As for the Dutch experiment which ultimately failed. Would Pearson have stayed on under the financial constraints imposed on JP? Would many managers have done better?Should we have sold a number of players in the last transfer window, yes i suspect so, bt not even Lowe was willing to mange the vittrol of the fans by doing so. I also believe Wotte should be given a chance. He took over a ship that was already sinking with two hands tied behind his back, a very young squad whose confidence had been shot to pieces, and next to no ability to bring players in when needed. What he has done is remain loyal to the club when he has had the option to walk away to something more stable. He is attempting to plan for next season, even when at our darkest hour, most of us really started to question whether the club would actually survive. Too many posters on here expect instant gratification. There was a general consensus on this board that we would struggle last year and the team would blow hot and cold. This happened, but instead of supporting the players posters started to slag them off. We need to remember how old these kids are and the fact that they are only just beginning their careers. Take James, slagged off to heaven before Xmas, but gradually finding his feet. Or MS, who many of you think is "****". I would prefer to take the view the view of the French coaches who make him their under 20 captain. How would most of us lot cope with moving away from home at 18 to a new country, play in a league far more physical league, in a struggling team, and a diveded fan base! Can we all except that we have no preordained right to be in the prem or the champ.. If we finish mid table next year can fans stop shouting how poor we are and except that we are starting again, and the likes of Yeovil are playing us as equals. We do have a past and a heritage to be proud of, but that is the past. Lets go into next season with a smile on our faces, with realistic expections, knowing we are lucky to be here. A good and well reasoned post mate, my opinion is that Wotte was not hand tied, he was afforded the luxury of playing Saga, Euell and Rudi yet still failed! As for Lowe, will, we'll never agree on that one mate. Wilde did go for broke and did over spend, but for my money and Mark Fry's and Wilde's, without external investment administration was inevitable. When Lowe left the books did show a credit, something like £3.5m? That was our last parachute payment, without that payment we were already heading for admin. Lowe came back, worked 2 days a week and paid himself £100k, I'm guessing he's still being paid now? After all, Mr. fry keeps saying "the directors have sanctioned" this and that! As for 19c, he's not like you, he brings every thread crashing down, the last thread "supposing if" had nothing to do with Lowe, just asking the question, who'll be on the board, who'd you like as manager etc until 19c popped up with his lowe and anti fans cr4p and the thread crashed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 What get's me is this. I can understand that some people take a shine to certain personalities at the club, that is called supporting someone. But how on earth can those people justify why they still support Lowe or still think he would do some good after everything that has happened? I mean he returned, stopped talking to investors, kicked out a popular manager who had saved the club from relegation etc, brought in a whole new set-up with a bunch of guys who failed in their own home leagues, then took us into admin a day or so after the admin deadline, we get relegated, denied we will get a minus points deduction as the two companies are seperate, we get a minus points deduction and so on. I just fail to understand how someone could defend someone with that record just in the past 12 months alone, forget what had happened before. If he had put millions and millions from his own pocket into the club then i could sort of see it, but he never did, he never put a penny in but took many out. So if someone say he is good for the club or sticks up for him then you have to expect the response people will have with those kind of statements, that would be normal. So if you do say those type of things then you have to expect people will confront you on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have been called a Luvvie on many occasions, i prefer the word realist or understanding of the need. When I was at the Old Vic once upon a time...I met many real Luvvies... To me nickh...You are but an apprentice.:smt118 COYRs...Roll on Monday..Luvvies and us Hard Baaaastards united as one...Hopefully[-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If you ask me, starting a thread with the sole intention of attacking and insulting one poster is the most troll-like behaviour on here at the moment. I've reported the thread as I don't think there's any place for it. It says on the main forum to keep it on-topic and civil, and this thread is neither. I would have to agree with you. I dont think personal attacks of this kind should be allowed, particularly when the poster involved has been open with his recent personal problems. This thread should really be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I would have to agree with you. I dont think personal attacks of this kind should be allowed, particularly when the poster involved has been open with his recent personal problems. This thread should really be closed. These posts have pasted me by, what did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 kpturner in 'realising that the penny has just dropped' headline? I have, at times, had the abstract theory that 19 and Stan were one and the same. Just, sadly, suffering from a touch of Bi-polar disorder. Don't believe the press ESB there is no confusing Manic Depression with Schizophrenia and in this case your suggestion would result in a seriously ill schoziod person that would most probably and regrettably require sectioning. Anyway, in me there is basically a good person trying to get out so abstract or not it defeats your theory but hey at least we have something in common. Back to start looking for the forum book entitled 'Minority Rules'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I wish people would stop blaming Lowe for the timing of going into administration. He had NO CHOICE once Barclays bounced those payments. Under company law, plc's in particular are legally bound to call in administrators once they are trading insolvently. Technically, whilst the payments were being honoured by the bank, the company was solvent. I'm not a Lowe luvvie, but anybody with half a brain can work out the timing was purely down to Barclays Bastard Bank, and now Lowe if they take a few moments to consider what the law says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Anyway, in me there is basically a good person trying to get out. I'm starting to understand, you're suffering from a Gollum/Smeagol personality disorder. Nineteen Gollum Nineteen Smeagol Let's see more of the Nineteen Smeagol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I would have to agree with you. I dont think personal attacks of this kind should be allowed, particularly when the poster involved has been open with his recent personal problems. This thread should really be closed. I don't think either of us have much time for 19c but you're right Steve this thread is a bit OTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I disagree with his views. I don't like his style of posting. I don't like the PM's he sends out I believe he is a troll. BUT He is fully entitled to his views and this forum would be a whole lot worse without him. I hope that he considers a thread devoted to him as a compliment. You never know he might discuss it with his colleagues in the House of Lords :-) ;-) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 A special thread for nineteen? O gosh golly wow, how nice of all of yous! He really doesn't deserve it with all that trolling and yanking of chains that he does, but you guys give him his own thread anyway. You are good people to do that! I hope you realize how many really good people surround you nineteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I don't think either of us have much time for 19c but you're right Steve this thread is a bit OTT.Harmless fun. 19c is loving it;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Harmless fun. 19c is loving it;) To be honest if he stopped slagging my brother off I wouldn't give a **** what he posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Posts and threads like this are out of order, and contravene the forum rules. If you have a problem with another poster please use the Report to Moderator function, don't start threads which could be construed as confrontational or antagonistic. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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