The Cat Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The Mail does seem to have some inside info on Saints. Many of their articles in the past have proved to be correct - they were even the first paper to state Strachan would be our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think you'll find that TT's particular brand of optimism could only emanate from the West Coast. You of all people should know that. Talking of which, I'm off now to Cape Town and the internet-free wilds beyond until Friday. If you lot haven't sorted this all out by the time I get back I'll be round all your houses. Thanks for correcting me, I meant the West Coast or the one on the left, Huntingdon Beach and a whole new meaning to the 'beautiful game'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebherr Serious trucks! The prospective new owners are worth £3.5 Billion, 157th richest people in the world. Typical bl88dy Saints. With Paul Allen we had the 17th richest person in the world. We screwed up there and now have to make do with the 157th richest. That's 140 places lower!! It just isn't good enough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 He wasn't Scooby, but he's been a serial id-changer - Flashman at the Charge, The Fourth Bear, Sundance Beast, Nineteen Canteen. Oh, and a user called Speculator, exhibiting remarkably similar style and views, popped up and disappeared again rather quickly just recently. Hence my little dig. Are you alleging I am quondam? Stop your barking and give it a hug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'd park it on double yellows, just to see some traffic policeman trying to wrestle a clamp onto it. I certainly wouldn't pay my road tax - imagine the look on the guys face as he pulls upto upload you onto his flat bed!! Priceless!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have to say I'd prefer not to see obscene amounts of money pumped into the club. Part of the joy of supporting Saints over the years has been their ability to punch above their weight. Expectations created by mega bucks are rarely met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 (edited) And by the way, how do you think the Liebherrs got so wealthy? By giving away money to football clubs? If they arrive it will be a business proposition to provide advertising for the Liebherr empire. Don't think cranes, think kitchens. Although the late Hans Liebherr may not have made his money by giving it away to football clubs, since he died his son and daughter who now own the company have apparently alreay rescued one football club in Austria, and also do give money to charity, as per the article in the Mail "£50,000 was donated to three local charities as part of a deal for the Swiss company to supply Southampton Container Terminals with two cranes" So, the thing is they are not in a position now where they need to make money, they can afford to be seen as benefactors as long as their huge business empire continues to tick along nicely as it is clearly doing. Edited 5 July, 2009 by VectisSaint No I was right first time, Austrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have to say I'd prefer not to see obscene amounts of money pumped into the club. I'd love obscene amounts to be spent on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I have to say I'd prefer not to see obscene amounts of money pumped into the club. Part of the joy of supporting Saints over the years has been their ability to punch above their weight. Expectations created by mega bucks are rarely met. I can't see them pumping in mega millions, just enough me thinks to win matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I can't see them pumping in mega millions, just enough me thinks to win matches. You're not suggesting bribery? - heaven forbid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You're not suggesting bribery? - heaven forbid We've already tried to play the Dutch way, might aswell give the Italian way a try..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'd love obscene amounts to be spent on players. Why? It might bring some success, but it's always the mug punters who end up paying in the long run. What's the message behing your avatar, BTW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggiee Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Saints sign Federer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I can't take much more of this!!!! Please god let it be true but how many times can us Southampyon fans be built up only to be smashed back down a again!! I feel exactly the same, I just NEED this entire situation to be resolved one way or another for the sake of my health! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'd love obscene amounts to be spent on players. Where's the fun in that? You might as well support Chelsea...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Why? It might bring some success, but it's always the mug punters who end up paying in the long run. What's the message behing your avatar, BTW? Swiss gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'd love obscene amounts to be spent on players. agreed i would love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Swiss gold. Are you suggesting that the Liebherr wealth is tainted? We don't want to be like that other team in Hampshire, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The Mail does seem to have some inside info on Saints. Many of their articles in the past have proved to be correct - they were even the first paper to state Strachan would be our manager. Not always... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-468460/Allen-faces-fight-Southampton.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 (edited) Not always... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-468460/Allen-faces-fight-Southampton.html In my opinion The Mail was helping someone or the club re Shares/info for prospective purchasers..OR....Misleading for a purpose in my view:rolleyes: Edited 5 July, 2009 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'd love obscene amounts to be spent on players. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Where's the fun in that? You might as well support Chelsea...! That was all well and good before idiots like Abromovich and Man Citys arab came along, they have changed the way football is run, we did so well in the past (80's) because it was more of an even playing field and running the club sensibly you could achieve something. Even when we were in the Premiership we started to struggle, other teams had more money than us, as sugar daddys started buying teams and pumping money in, trying to live within your means just means you will gradually decline unless you're a worldwide brand (man u, liverpool etc). As crap as it is the only way of achieving anything in football is by spending money, if you don't jump on the bandwagon you get left behind. It's no coincidence that the most successful teams are the richest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Swiss gold. Mole, I find your aviator quite offence. I only hope you are about 12 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Mole, I find your aviator quite offence. I only hope you are about 12 years old Would you prefer Biggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I told you all a week ago that the Swiss bid had the better structure and would wop the Pinnacle Group. Let us hope that the collapse of Pinnacle is a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Would you prefer Biggles? I suspect if we had a West African consortium taking us over you would have little black sambo as your aviator, or German irt would be Hitler. I just find it slightly stange you are being that offensive to someone who is attempting to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqbadger Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I will have my giant, inflatable Toblerone ready for the 8th Aug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I suspect if we had a West African consortium taking us over you would have little black sambo as your aviator. If it was Italian i could have Pontius Pilate, get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Although the late Hans Liebherr may not have made his money by giving it away to football clubs, since he died his son and daughter who now own the company have apparently alreay rescued one football club in Austria, and also do give money to charity, as per the article in the Mail "£50,000 was donated to three local charities as part of a deal for the Swiss company to supply Southampton Container Terminals with two cranes" So, the thing is they are not in a position now where they need to make money, they can afford to be seen as benefactors as long as their huge business empire continues to tick along nicely as it is clearly doing. That they give away money to charity can't be compared with buying a football club, can it? The only thing similar is that you don't get a return on your money. What's the story about the Austrian club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I told you all a week ago that the Swiss bid had the better structure and would wop the Pinnacle Group. Let us hope that the collapse of Pinnacle is a blessing in disguise. Agreed - even if it means getting Hoddle back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Mole, I find your aviator quite offence. I only hope you are about 12 years old I suspect if we had a West African consortium taking us over you would have little black sambo as your aviator, or German irt would be Hitler. I just find it slightly stange you are being that offensive to someone who is attempting to the club. You have unwittingly ended up making a fool of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Agreed - even if it means getting Hoddle back! If this deal goes through I won't care who they choose as manager as long as he has the experience and credentials to manage. Sturrock and Wigley were both very poor choices in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If this deal goes through I won't care who they choose as manager as long as he has the experience and credentials to manage. Sturrock and Wigley were both very poor choices in 2004. I concur ol friend... I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You have unwittingly ended up making a fool of yourself. good to see you calmed down after your original post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchi Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Grazer AK went into admin 2007, bankrupt in 2008 and kicked out of league. Now a regional side owned by Liebherr - didn't get promoted last year. They had a decent enough past, playing in the former Arnold Schwarzenegger stadium, with Emmanual Pogatetz amongst others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Grazer AK went into admin 2007, bankrupt in 2008 and kicked out of league. Now a regional side owned by Liebherr - didn't get promoted last year. They had a decent enough past, playing in the former Arnold Schwarzenegger stadium, with Emmanual Pogatetz amongst others http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grazer_AK They play in red and white as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You have unwittingly ended up making a fool of yourself. I'm not sure you'd be approving of my old dogs name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Where's the fun in that? You might as well support Chelsea...! WTF? Where's the fun in having no money? I'd love it if we had obscene money to spend, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 good to see you calmed down after your original post.... You spotted that? Ha ha..... In mitigation, I'm in my second week of giving up smoking and seem to be apologising to a lot of people recently. At least on the forum I can edit rather than apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 WTF? Where's the fun in having no money? I'd love it if we had obscene money to spend, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't. unreal isnt it...you might as well say that the prem is crap and we are better off out of it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 That they give away money to charity can't be compared with buying a football club, can it? The only thing similar is that you don't get a return on your money. What's the story about the Austrian club? See earlier posts, but then again they could have been a wind-up, can find no evidence myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 WTF? Where's the fun in having no money? I'd love it if we had obscene money to spend, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't. Well I thought the money being paid to Terry if he moved to Man City was obscene £10m a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 You spotted that? Ha ha..... In mitigation, I'm in my second week of giving up smoking and seem to be apologising to a lot of people recently. At least on the forum I can edit rather than apologise. Have a smoke, you know you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I'm not sure you'd be approving of my old dogs name. I do hope that you didn't take a leaf out of Wing Commander Guy Gibson's book when naming your mangy mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Grazer AK went into admin 2007, bankrupt in 2008 and kicked out of league. Now a regional side owned by Liebherr - didn't get promoted last year. They had a decent enough past, playing in the former Arnold Schwarzenegger stadium, with Emmanual Pogatetz amongst others I also think they were deducted 28 points , refused a license to play in the upper two divisions of the Austrian league , therefore were demoted to the lowers leagues. They ground share with another team and by the looks of it have not had ££££££££££££ pumped into the club , basicaly they saved the club from going out of business.....IF they took over at SFC i doubt they would be pumping loads of cash into the club but steady the club and I can't see us being / doing a Man City , I don't think we will be being linked to the purchase of premiership players that sort of stuff , but we will have a club to support , a team to cheer on and hopefully a secure future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grazer_AK They play in red and white as well! From national champions to regional leagues in three seasons. And we think we've had a falling from grace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 WTF? Where's the fun in having no money? I'd love it if we had obscene money to spend, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't. We don't need obscene money to get back to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Maybe not, but we probably need it to do well in the Premiership, if and when we get there. Surely everyone wants us to be as successful as possible, and obviously we will be a better position to do well if these guys take over. Trying not to get too excited until it goes through though. Been let down so many times in recent weeks, so I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Because it's pretty obvious that can't continue as they are for much longer.... the sooner we get ourselves sorted out with a sensible finanacial structure before either everything implodes or harsh financial regulation are imposed upon teams , the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Get your Liebherr merchandise here....... https://liebherr-shop.liebherr.com/english/ May have to get the cycling stuff and the soft shell jacket....if they take over of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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