John B Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4475266.Thomas_too_expensive_for_Saints/ Probably just too expensive not one of our better buys I would have thought
saint_disco123 Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 ive always thought he was a good player but i don't know now i mean with his injurys and that lot. If he does go good luck to him.
CWD Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Would be good in league 1. tbf this article hasnt got a quote from WT himself, if he is a really a good bloke (as reported) then i would expect him to take a pay cut so as to stick by the club that stood by him for a year when he wasnt playing He just got payed 8k a week for doing nothing for a year so it wont be a huge blow for him
Wes Tender Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Agreed that Thomas is too expensive for us. We can't afford to pay anybody who is going to spend the entire season in the treatment room.
chocco boxo Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Always remember after he signed for us the then Burnley Manager Cotterall (sp) on TalkSport saying he sold Thomas for over a million and bought a far better player for £250,000 I think! That player was Clarke Carlisle who will now ply his trade in The Premiership. In St George we trusted!
egreog Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 He owes us big time.........£8000pw for what?.......virtually non event so far.........if worth keeping he should renegotiate the whole thing, but in today's money oriented world I guess thats just a dream...........best just let him go asap and put it down to another poor signing with all the others that have conrtibuted to Saints being where they are today
lee_saint Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 He's a decent bloke, he's a mate of a guy I know through England and does alot for charity, he's desperate to play for us too....or he was last season.
John B Posted 4 July, 2009 Author Posted 4 July, 2009 Surely the key point is, no-one else is going to pay him 8k. In fact, it's unlikely anyone will pay him more than we're willing to offer now. Would he make a CCC team? Maybe. But he'd have to uproot and move for very little. So if he has anything about him, surely acknowledge he's at the biggest club he's been at, done nothing, and should try to prove himself. But he needs to take a paycut to do so. Hanging around on 8k a week at a club in admin would be fairly ****. Yes but he may get a two or three year contract for £5k a week somewhere else. I would have thought his agent would be interested in making some money out of him
alpine_saint Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Agreed that Thomas is too expensive for us. We can't afford to pay anybody who is going to spend the entire season in the treatment room. Do you think we should pay it if we knew he would be fit ?
SaintRobbie Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Agreed that Thomas is too expensive for us. We can't afford to pay anybody who is going to spend the entire season in the treatment room. We dont know that yet until the new owners come in and appoint a manager who decides whether he is worth his salary. Size and Perry are OK but Thomas could be awesome in this league.
John B Posted 4 July, 2009 Author Posted 4 July, 2009 OK but Thomas could be awesome in this league. How come ? He was not that good in CC in fact I think Pearson dropped him
OldNick Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Nobody can foresee a player getting a bad injury.For all we know he may have helped keep us up had he played a bit more.I doubt it but who knows.
John B Posted 4 July, 2009 Author Posted 4 July, 2009 another cracking burley signing....lol As a matter of interest who was Burley's best signing Apart from John/Davis there is nobody I think was very good awaste of £7 or so million
Thedelldays Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 As a matter of interest who was Burley's best signing Apart from John/Davis there is nobody I think was very good awaste of £7 or so million rasiak but he was a no brainer IMO..alraedy could do the business at the CCC level... burleys dealings in the transfer market was pretty poor/average IMO..such a shame
buctootim Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 As a matter of interest who was Burley's best signing Apart from John/Davis there is nobody I think was very good awaste of £7 or so million I cant think of any other manager who troughed through so much money with so little to show for it.
Tac-tics Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Simple idea, why not a pay as you play deal or just a voluntary reduced wage?
Thedelldays Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I cant think of any other manager who troughed through so much money with so little to show for it. that money was BIG money in CCC terms too..boooooooooooooo
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Tbf Clive Thomas would be too expensive for us.
Saint Martini Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I don't get why he would "owe us" anything? Because he was injured and we paid his salary last year? He got injured doing his work for Southampton so why should he owe us something for that? Its not like he's been sitting on his ass last year. Rehab can be more demanding then actually training and playing, if not physically then mentally. He's worked his ass of just not on the pitch which can hardly be blamed on him. Its not his fault that we're not insured against injuries.
SaintRobbie Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 another cracking burley signing....lol Same ol record TDDs ... its so boring... Tell you what. Promise not to go on about GB and I will drop 'Wotte is not good enough' unless challenged during the debate of the forum?
dellgirl Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Who signed that great pudding Jermaine Wright, wasn't that Burley?
Badger Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Tbf Clive Thomas would be too expensive for us. He was a pompous git No complaints about his handling of the 1976 FA Cup final though !
CWD Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I don't get why he would "owe us" anything? Because he was injured and we paid his salary last year? He got injured doing his work for Southampton so why should he owe us something for that? Its not like he's been sitting on his ass last year. Rehab can be more demanding then actually training and playing, if not physically then mentally. He's worked his ass of just not on the pitch which can hardly be blamed on him. Its not his fault that we're not insured against injuries. Well fair enough but you must agree that he should feel some debt to the club that payed for, and ensured the best quality rehab?
Saint Martini Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Well fair enough but you must agree that he should feel some debt to the club that payed for, and ensured the best quality rehab? To a certain extend but I do not see why he should voluntarily take less wages or demote himself to a pay-as-you-play deal. If he can similar contracts at us and an other club I think he owes it to the club to stay but in the end these are professional football players and eventhough 8 grand a week is a ****load of money many players need to live this for the rest of their lives.
John B Posted 4 July, 2009 Author Posted 4 July, 2009 No complaints about his handling of the 1976 FA Cup final though ! Must admit I did not know it was him at Wembley but he used to be a pain in the neck down the Dell
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I don't see how Wotte can say that "Thomas is too expensive" when it remains far from clear what budget we'll be operating with this coming season - unless he knows something we don't (surly not :shock:)
Bailey Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Shame really as Thomas would be decent in League One and we could certainly do with his experience. However, 8K a week really is too much, especially for Saints. If he doesn't get a move elsewhere, maybe he'd consider a pay-cut?
Saint Charlie Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I don't see how Wotte can say that "Thomas is too expensive" when it remains far from clear what budget we'll be operating with this coming season - unless he knows something we don't (surly not :shock:) No L1 club should pay 8k per week no matter what owner they have. It is financial suicide and we have been down that route before and look where it got us. As an aside its worth pointing out that Thomas didnt have any wage drop clause in his contract as he hasnt signed when Lowe was in charge. Shocking decision by whoever this was!
Block 5 Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Thomas will end up at Hartlepool on the minimum wage. Cheerio......
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 No L1 club should pay 8k per week no matter what owner they have. It is financial suicide and we have been down that route before and look where it got us. As an aside its worth pointing out that Thomas didnt have any wage drop clause in his contract as he hasnt signed when Lowe was in charge. Shocking decision by whoever this was! I'm all in favour of a prudent wage bill but the record shows WT has 12 months left on his contract , if he doesn't want to go we'll just have to pay him what was agreed - these are the facts of footballing life . We can't rely on Chris Perry playing as many games as he miraculously managed last season , Michael Svensson & JPS are also out of the picture (at this time anyway) so I'd suggest experienced defenders (such as a fit Wayne Thomas) will have an important role to play . We really don't want to start yet another season short of centre backs do we ? - been there done that .
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Can we have some full-backs too please? We've waited long enough, surely.
saint1977 Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I'd be inclined to keep Thomas if we could do a deal with him on reducing those wages. He's 29ish and probably settled in the area and seems hungry to play for us and he'd excel at L1 level and let's face it, we haven't had a decent CB play at the club since Svensson got injured and Claus slowed up. Baird's committment and two stunning goals got him the Fulham move but he wasn't that solid at CB - how many sloppy/late goals did we concede in 06/07, particularly from set pieces?
sidthesquid Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 The thing I always come back to with Thomas was that England's greatest manager (NP) preferred the Glassman to Thomas for our relegation decider two years ago. Says it all about him really
The Godfather Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Thomas's wages are too high for League one but IF we do get taken over by somebody early next week willing to throw money at the club then his wages maynot be a problem.
L1Minus10 Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Firstly, this is an Echo rehash of a Wotte quote from about April. There is no news here. Secondly, if we get new owners then we need him. He's a good solid centre back who if fit, will be one of the best in the division. We really can't afford to have Olly Davenport ... sorry...Lancashire in the side as he's complete sh!te.
Ambsaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 Time he was gone - not seen anything there for the wages. This myth that footballers can't possibly earn a living after football irritates me, it's called earning it.
Ambsaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8133381.stm Wotte has noticed defenders are missing - next up LB RB. *prays*
Clapham Saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 Always remember after he signed for us the then Burnley Manager Cotterall (sp) on TalkSport saying he sold Thomas for over a million and bought a far better player for £250,000 I think! That player was Clarke Carlisle who will now ply his trade in The Premiership. In St George we trusted! Exactly. I was so pleased when he was announched as manager. Turned out to be a complete disaster for the club.:smt085
Danny R Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 As a matter of interest who was Burley's best signing Apart from John/Davis there is nobody I think was very good awaste of £7 or so million Rasiak, Safri,Saganowski, Idiakez (when fit) and Vignal were all good signings.
Bailey Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 I was so pleased when he was announched as manager. Turned out to be a complete disaster for the club.:smt085 That's a tad harsh IMO. We were only a couple of penalties away from the play-off final, so to say he was a complete disaster is pretty unfair. Admittedly, his reign ended on a bad note, but he wasn't far from being a great manager for us. Had we got promoted that season, and make no mistake about it, we were very close to doing so, then people's opinions of him would be considerably different.
scotty Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 I cant think of any other manager who troughed through so much money with so little to show for it. If you mean any other manager, not just SFC, hows about Keane? He managed to **** £80m up the wall I believe
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 If you mean any other manager, not just SFC, hows about Keane? He managed to **** £80m up the wall I believe has he...? he got sunderland up and they have stayed up...
scotty Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 Thomas's wages are too high for League one but IF we do get taken over by somebody early next week willing to throw money at the club then his wages maynot be a problem. thats the biggest "IF" ive ever seen, and i've seen a few
scotty Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 has he...? he got sunderland up and they have stayed up... He spent that in the prem. He threw his toys out of the pram and walked out, remember? Couldnt take the flak from the fans.
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 He spent that in the prem. He threw his toys out of the pram and walked out, remember? Couldnt take the flak from the fans. that is not a huge amount of money these days
stevegrant Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 Nobody can foresee a player getting a bad injury. His medical highlighted problems with his knee that was likely to cause a serious injury at some point, and the official recommendation was that we didn't sign him. Unfortunately, we were so desperate to sign a centre-back that we ignored that advice. We also paid three times more than other clubs felt he was worth. Coventry offered just £300k for him.
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