Master Bates Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Flybe has trumped EasyJet & BA to become the UK's biggest domestic airliner. Flybe said its market share was at an all time high. Got any spare dosh?
Viking Warrior Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I can believe that easy jet and co are crap but but flybe are totally crap
St Lightjaw Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 yeah they sponsored us for another season! So in return for "money", players are going to have "flybe" stamped across their shirts / training tops. And I bet they get a mention in the match day programme. I have a Degree in Marketing, and this all stinks of advertising if you ask me. Yet again, us Saints fans have had the wool pulled over our eyes. :mad:
Dicko Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I use Flybe on a regular basis, simply because they are the only option for Jersey - Southampton flights If I could use someone else, I would Their customer services department is an absolute disgrace It's make me angry everytime I give money to this tossy company
Viking Warrior Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I use Flybe on a regular basis, simply because they are the only option for Jersey - Southampton flights If I could use someone else, I would Their customer services department is an absolute disgrace It's make me angry everytime I give money to this tossy company I totally agree Dicko. Its the same up here. Our local MP (The westminster one) we have a scottish one as well is trying to do something about there service
Footballfan Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Fly with Ryanair and you will soon see how good Flybe are.
St Landrew Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Used FlyBe myself a few times. I've found them fine, and when travelling on their old HS146's, very comfortable too, with good seat width and plenty of knee room. But this is a football forum, therefore everything is either brilliant or crap, with no inbetween. Ryanair were OK too. Never flown with Easyjet.
Arizona Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Flybe do alright in their small corner of the market. The reason they've been so succesful is because they opperate a lot of domestic routes with little or no competition. One of their subsidaries, Logan air, opperates the only scheduled commerical flight in the world which lands on a beach (Barra).
derry Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 (edited) After I retired I flew part time for a couple of years for Flybe. Their operation and engineering side are good. The training is very professional and no corners are cut. One of the major problems was the introduction of the dash 8-Q400, which because of it's French influence in design and extensive use of computers was initially a nightmare. The computers often diagnosed faults that didn't exist due to tight actuators etc. There were procedures, by taking power off systems and restoring, cleared the faults but often the only way was to take all the power off the aircraft then turn it back on to reboot the computers. If that didn't work the engineers had to be called in and as this often happened away from base it took time. The pilots could operate the diagnostic system, but were not allowed to, so an engineer had to be sent to wherever the aircraft was, then take 10 mins to reset the system. As time went by these faults got better, but the damage to their reputation had been done. It was amazing that 90% of the flights went on time or early. I used to do 6 flights a day and usually finished early. Edited 4 July, 2009 by derry
ottery st mary Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I have flown with Saints for many years.....Some of the pilots and staff have been very good. One or two have been atrocious....More often than not we have lacked true investment... The old accomodation was ok but have seen very good improvement lately, until of late, when they cut corners. The colour scheme on the whole package is the best in the business. Most fellow customers, as one shiiiite pilot described us, are world class bar one or two. I hope with a little first aid to the product , to be flying with Saints once again on Monday.
buctootim Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 One of their subsidaries, Logan air, opperates the only scheduled commerical flight in the world which lands on a beach (Barra). Thats a great trip. I once flew to Barra just for the experience of landing on the sand after seeing it in a film. Pretty sure it was BA when I did it though.
TopGun Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 (edited) After I retired I flew part time for a couple of years for Flybe. Their operation and engineering side are good. The training is very professional and no corners are cut. One of the major problems was the introduction of the dash 8-Q400, which because of it's French influence in design and extensive use of computers was initially a nightmare. The computers often diagnosed faults that didn't exist due to tight actuators etc. There were procedures, by taking power off systems and restoring, cleared the faults but often the only way was to take all the power off the aircraft then turn it back on to reboot the computers. If that didn't work the engineers had to be called in and as this often happened away from base it took time. The pilots could operate the diagnostic system, but were not allowed to, so an engineer had to be sent to wherever the aircraft was, then take 10 mins to reset the system. As time went by these faults got better, but the damage to their reputation had been done. It was amazing that 90% of the flights went on time or early. I used to do 6 flights a day and usually finished early. I'm glad Derry was in charge when I was on board the Flybe Dash-8 Q400 named George Best when I flew into Eastleigh a couple of years back. Derry spotted a runway issue and roared me back up into the clouds at the last moment and then conducted a successful 10-minute turnaround landing once the airport had cleared the other plane off the runway! Good old Derry, I say! I might have lied about cause Edited 4 July, 2009 by TopGun
Arizona Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Thats a great trip. I once flew to Barra just for the experience of landing on the sand after seeing it in a film. Pretty sure it was BA when I did it though. Yeah, BA used to own Logan. Think Flybe have had it less than a year.
ulstersaint Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I fly Belfast-Southampton with Flybe and the flights and service are good. Only problem is how they advertise their fares. I recently booked a return flight for around £45 but end up paying £124 with all the add-ons. £62 each way is still good value but it would be better if the fare structure was simpler. I also fly Belfast-Gatwick with Easyjet and they are usually cheaper; I have hired an Easyjet car from Gatwick and their flight/car price has been less than flight only with Flybe.
derry Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I'm glad Derry was in charge when I was on board the Flybe Dash-8 Q400 named George Best when I flew into Eastleigh a couple of years back. Derry spotted a runway issue and roared me back up into the clouds at the last moment and then conducted a successful 10-minute turnaround landing once the airport had cleared the other plane off the runway! Good old Derry, I say! I might have lied about cause Pretty routine procedure, I can't remember it specifically, I've flown that a/c often also the MLT. Go arounds happen for loads of reasons, I seem to remember something about an runway inspection needed because the aircraft in front hit some birds causing us to be instructed to go around. I've got the Topgun US Navy cap somewhere.
Arizona Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 By a strange co-incidence I witnessed a go around this afternoon. This one was down to strong tail winds, but as derry said, they can happen for a number of reasons.
Arizona Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Have a look at this turnaround Derry and Arizona! Turn around is the time on the ground between parking on stand and push back for the next flight. I think you mean 'go around'. Looking at that, it would seem the controller was a muppet, telling the Corsair to line-up when there wasn't anywhere near enough time for the KLM to take off. Lol at the camera man, "oh sh*t" as if the KLM aircraft was ever going to try and land on top of another Jumbo in perfect visiblity.
derry Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Have a look at this turnaround Derry and Arizona! It looked a lot worse than it was, a Pakistan AW 747 did that to me at Manchester on 06L when I was about 1 mile and cleared to land. The Q400 has plenty of power it was close but no big deal more of a nuisance. The 747 got a scare and a big bollocking from ATC.
TopGun Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Turn around is the time on the ground between parking on stand and push back for the next flight. I think you mean 'go around'. Looking at that, it would seem the controller was a muppet, telling the Corsair to line-up when there wasn't anywhere near enough time for the KLM to take off. Lol at the camera man, "oh sh*t" as if the KLM aircraft was ever going to try and land on top of another Jumbo in perfect visiblity. Yeah, go around. That said, have you ever seen a 747 twist and move its ass that quickly before?
TopGun Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Turn around is the time on the ground between parking on stand and push back for the next flight. I think you mean 'go around'. Looking at that, it would seem the controller was a muppet, telling the Corsair to line-up when there wasn't anywhere near enough time for the KLM to take off. Lol at the camera man, "oh sh*t" as if the KLM aircraft was ever going to try and land on top of another Jumbo in perfect visiblity. But imagine if it was low cloud...
Arizona Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 Yeah, go around. That said, have you ever seen a 747 twist and move its ass that quickly before? Sorry to ruin your thunder, but that really isn't much of a manoeuvre. Just push the TOGA (take off and go around) button, push the throttles forward and fly the missed approach procedure, which they would have briefed thoroughly half an hour before that incident happened. All pilots on twin engined aircraft are trained to fly a go around using just one engine. If you ever got into that scenario, it's really not your day. But imagine if it was low cloud... Then there is a possibility for another incident like the Tenerife North crash. However the controller would have known where both aircraft were in that scenario. He could still have told the KLM aircraft to go around, even if he couldn't see it. The problem there was the controller telling the Corsair guy to line-up, thinking there was enough time before the KLM guy landed. Pretty silly as SMX isn't a busy airport and the Corsair could easily have waited 5 minutes.
TopGun Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I meant the Corsair 747 on the ground, when its captain saw the incoming and opened the jets to turn about and hit the gas pronto!
dubai_phil Posted 4 July, 2009 Posted 4 July, 2009 I hate Flybe....... I worked for a company that had a factory in Galway for 16 years. To get there from here was Dxb-Lhr-Shannon or Dxb Lhr Dublin collect bags Aer Arran to Galway. Took the best part of a day each way and I had to go about once every 3 months. (Mind you I do LOVE a night out in Galway!) Everytime I had to rent a car to get home to Southampton area. Then the DAY I left, they opened a service Galway- Southampton... BSTDS couldn't have done it 16 year earlier Meanwhile, wonder if they'll pay more for the sponsorship if we get taken over by rich Swiss
Crab Lungs Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 fly with ryanair and you will soon see how good flybe are. that is spot on
Crab Lungs Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 ******** TO THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J284VO_md_c&NR=1
Arizona Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 that is spot on Depends entirely on what you want from an airline. ******** TO THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J284VO_md_c&NR=1 Yes, only an idiot would try and land an aircraft in those conditions.
St. Jason Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 I can believe that easy jet and co are crap but but flybe are totally crap I've never had a problem with Flybe, in fact I love flying from Southampton. I've never been delayed, never been canceled and always been on time, maybe I'm just lucky????
derry Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 I hate Flybe....... I worked for a company that had a factory in Galway for 16 years. To get there from here was Dxb-Lhr-Shannon or Dxb Lhr Dublin collect bags Aer Arran to Galway. Took the best part of a day each way and I had to go about once every 3 months. (Mind you I do LOVE a night out in Galway!) Everytime I had to rent a car to get home to Southampton area. Then the DAY I left, they opened a service Galway- Southampton... BSTDS couldn't have done it 16 year earlier Meanwhile, wonder if they'll pay more for the sponsorship if we get taken over by rich Swiss The runway at Galway is very sporty. downhill, about two thirds of the length of Southampton and the only way to turn the aircraft was to pass the runway light with the wheel on the edge of the concrete and do a max rate 180 turn without running over the runway light on the other side. Usually not a lot of runway left, they don't go there any more.
derry Posted 5 July, 2009 Posted 5 July, 2009 ******** TO THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J284VO_md_c&NR=1 Interesting, where he went wrong was not lowering the right wing into wind as he kicked off drift. If he had done that it would have been no big deal. It's a co-ordinated move done simultaneously and smoothly. It enables the aircraft to land on the into wind wheel with the nosewheel off the ground then lower the other wheel, when the two main wheels are on the ground then lower the nosewheel. By kicking off drift only, he was affected by two big problems, the first was the secondary effects of the rudder causing the right wing to rise and the left wing drop which was compounded by the aircraft drifting across because the wind was now pushing it left. In the end he was lucky and did well not to hit the wingtip and fly out of it.
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