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i dont know what you expected last year..?

 

we stayed up the year before by the very skin of our teeth and other results going our way...we had a much more experienced team...better players etc

 

when that team got weaker what the hell did you expect one way or another

 

TDD, I predicted exactly this position last summer when Lowe was re-appointed and warned we needed to sell the club urggently to avoid it. So I dont get what you're typing about mate.

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You're just a miserable sod who wants to slag off anything Southampton related like Alpine, sitting on a PC moaning constantly isn't much of an existance.

 

Totally agree - Saint Richmond, Alpwhine and Saint Robbie are the most miserable, depressing people on God's beautiful planet. Never a positive word to say about anything....and so tediously repetitive.

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Totally agree - Saint Richmond, Alpwhine and Saint Robbie are the most miserable, depressing people on God's beautiful planet. Never a positive word to say about anything....and so tediously repetitive.

 

Please enlighten me to the positives this season P&M. Methinks I have been rather optimistic since Barclays did the decent thing... as I say just one piece of the old regime left and here we go!!! :)

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Not surprising we may have struugled upfront what with Lallana and Mclaggon injured,BWP,Euell & John not able to play due to insurance and John probably not fit enough yet and Thompson not fit enough yet.If and when the takeover goes through I'm sure this will be one of the priority areas to address.I wouldn't mind someone like Connelly or Cureton.Maybe Scowcroft would score goals in league 1.They are all out of contract and probably more realistic targets than Lita.Wotte says he is looking for experienced players.Maybe with the credit crunch players may settle for more reasonable wages!?

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Rubbish. I want to say Wotte isnt good enough and will debate with those who challenge that opinion on this messageboard.

 

The rest is fine now, provided Fry can deliver the takeover quickly and I am optimistic he may well be about to. That's all I have said Mike, nothing more and nothing less.

 

Why as supporters cant we just accept that Wotte is the manager and get on supporting the team.

 

We are at the bottom of Div 1 on minus ten points it is a long way from here back to the Premiership why cannot we just try and see what happens and support the team without all the whingeing that has gone on.

 

Surely a well supported club which is not divided has a better chance of success than a divided one

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Why as supporters cant we just accept that Wotte is the manager and get on supporting the team.

 

We are at the bottom of Div 1 on minus ten points it is a long way from here back to the Premiership why cannot we just try and see what happens and support the team without all the whingeing that has gone on.

 

Surely a well supported club which is not divided has a better chance of success than a divided one

 

Do you think a few posts on a message board will make the slightest jot of difference?

 

If we play well everyone will be happy.

 

If we lose everyone will be fed up.

 

Along the way we will moan about players, referees, managers, the weather, the opposition... etc.!

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Why as supporters cant we just accept that Wotte is the manager and get on supporting the team.

 

We are at the bottom of Div 1 on minus ten points it is a long way from here back to the Premiership why cannot we just try and see what happens and support the team without all the whingeing that has gone on.

 

Surely a well supported club which is not divided has a better chance of success than a divided one

 

John - totally agree. And I will accept it IF Wotte stays. But, we are about to have the perfect opportunity for the new owners (finances permitting, which is the real mystery) to make their mark with an appointment that reflects their ambition. As has been said by many others we have the perfect opportunity to remove every aspect of the negativity that internally has surrounded this club. A clean sweep. Optimism looms... come on Fry finish the deal!

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Just back from the game and so pleased to have been able to see the red and white stripes on a pitch. A crowd of 1,700, the vast majority of which wore red n white, showed that this club is still alive.

First half had the "names" but the performance was poor, devoid of pace and ideas. I appreciate that it was only a pre-season friendly and the first one at that, but c'mon lads, put some effort in !

The exception was Gillet, who was everywhere, snapping away, tidy little passes and even getting ahead of the front men and into the box. Rasiak just didn't look interested and Bart was very poor ( one shot for the cameras excepted ), looking as though his confidence was shot. His kicking was wayward, handling poor, positioning dodgy and he was scrambling far too much for any defence's liking.

The second half was much better. Good movement, quick short triangles and a real desire and enthusiasm from a team that I struggled to recognise more than a couple of. The two stars were the blonde number 10 ( really good first touch, busy player, strong and looking to keep the ball moving and the opposition guessing ) and the blonde left back ( mobile, great first touch and control, reasonable right foot, good reading of the game and despite his lack of inches, strong in the challenge ( albeit against a smaller and younger right winger ) . Forecast looked much better ( one double save in particular ) and of the two I would be much happier with him between the sticks.

The sun shone,Saints were playing and it's my wedding anniversary, so champagne tonight !

( I took some photos so will try and post them in a while )

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Laregely uninspiring performance it has to be said.

 

First half was propbably the best availible team we have with the current players on contract, but Eastleigh were by far the better side and we had nothing upfront. Good communication from Wotton and Bialkowski but Rasiak seemed as though he had nothing to prove (and therefore did sweet FA).Their disallowed goal was correct and bartosz made an excellent save on half time.

 

Second half was almost a completely different side, with forecast in goal and a very young squad out pitch. Patterson looked up for it and we had a blonde midfielder who was quick and confident when taking players on. Ball was played along the ground and cross-field, unlike the constant hoof-ball in the first half. This created chances and led to the goal. Eastleigh were still a threat however and forecast made several good saves towards the end.

 

Still a lot of work needed and more players to be brought in.

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Based on the performance Nexter, where were/are we particularly weak? Where do the new owners need to invest?

 

Left-back, gobern seemed confused.

 

I would say upfront but BWP and John weren't playing, but we may need cover if one leaves.

 

And somebody out wide who can swing the ball in, James could do it but then we need a right-back.

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Just back from the game and so pleased to have been able to see the red and white stripes on a pitch. A crowd of 1,700, the vast majority of which wore red n white, showed that this club is still alive.

First half had the "names" but the performance was poor, devoid of pace and ideas. I appreciate that it was only a pre-season friendly and the first one at that, but c'mon lads, put some effort in !

The exception was Gillet, who was everywhere, snapping away, tidy little passes and even getting ahead of the front men and into the box. Rasiak just didn't look interested and Bart was very poor ( one shot for the cameras excepted ), looking as though his confidence was shot. His kicking was wayward, handling poor, positioning dodgy and he was scrambling far too much for any defence's liking.

The second half was much better. Good movement, quick short triangles and a real desire and enthusiasm from a team that I struggled to recognise more than a couple of. The two stars were the blonde number 10 ( really good first touch, busy player, strong and looking to keep the ball moving and the opposition guessing ) and the blonde left back ( mobile, great first touch and control, reasonable right foot, good reading of the game and despite his lack of inches, strong in the challenge ( albeit against a smaller and younger right winger ) . Forecast looked much better ( one double save in particular ) and of the two I would be much happier with him between the sticks.

The sun shone,Saints were playing and it's my wedding anniversary, so champagne tonight !

( I took some photos so will try and post them in a while )

 

I thought Forecast looked dodgy as anything. Agree about the blonde left back though, he looked decent. Anyone know who he is?

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Just got in...

 

First half was absolute pants. None of our players really looked that interested, i didnt even notice rasiak or paterson on the pitch until about 30mins into the game. Was very dull, very little movement and i dont think we had a single shot on goal. Eastleigh had a goal disallowed after some very sloppy goalkeeping from Bart. A corner came in about head height 3 or 4 yards out. He tried to make a clean catch and the striker made contact at the exact same time, in fairness it probably was a foul but Bart should have attacked the ball alot more and a punch clear would have been a much safer option. The Eastleigh LM was running Lloyd James ragged and had us in his back pocket, Eastleigh should have been a couple up at half time.. Bart with a stunning save at the end of the half.

 

Second half i only recognised 2 or 3 players,the rest were completely unknown... but they were a pleasure to watch. Number 10 (blonde lad in the middle) was running the game with some neat touches and passes, Boyle on the left wing was putting in some good balls, and paterson was putting himself about a bit more. The defence looked steady and forecast played well... was a bit to blame for the equiliser but was unlucky.

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Left-back, gobern seemed confused.

 

I would say upfront but BWP and John weren't playing, but we may need cover if one leaves.

 

And somebody out wide who can swing the ball in, James could do it but then we need a right-back.

 

Hopefully we sign Murty to play right back so that James can push up to RM.

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So who is this blonde number 10 everyone is raving about then? Sounds like it might have been Pulis.

 

definately wasnt pulis, he was dark haired number 8. The guy we are talking about had blonde surfery hair. He looked very comfortable on the ball and most of the attacks came through him. Looks like he could be useful in coming seasons

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Totally agree - Saint Richmond, Alpwhine and Saint Robbie are the most miserable, depressing people on God's beautiful planet. Never a positive word to say about anything....and so tediously repetitive.

 

 

 

I'm just the same down the pub ....... "would you like a drink ? "

"Would you like a drink ?"

"Would you like a drink ?"

 

You should be a Trick Cyclist mate ......... such a gift assessing an opinion of someone by what is on here

 

I HAVE said Positive things .... I think the last time when Lowe "aquired" control of SFC ( The Great Share Hike )

 

I said at the time .. " I am Positive that that man will be the ruin of our Club""

 

Now tell me I was wrong ... YOU should be depressed too, it's YOUR CLUB TOO FFS

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For those that went to the Match, how did the fans respond to Wotte and the players. did they give them plenty of support?

 

Good to hear the team albeit devoid of some key players were actually playing

especially after all the drama will we won't we have a club to support

 

COYR's

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SaintRobbie equals this season Alpine Saint

 

Alpine will be distraught that He has lost his crown for being critical of managers.

 

Bring back George Burley for the sake of Alpine.:cool:

 

Steady on! lol... Season's not started yet. I am looking forward to the optimism wave post takeover! :)

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Rubbish. I want to say Wotte isnt good enough and will debate with those who challenge that opinion on this messageboard.

 

Maybe ..Wotte isn't good enough - but you're the only one with a crystal ball.

Personally speaking, I have a lot of respect for a man who has stayed with the club (often without critiscism) through these diabolical few months. It's obvious to most of us (and probably him, too) that he's NOT going to be managing the first team (under new ownership,) but nevertheless he's still there, training them and picking the side...and with no contract and no guaranteed future. Thats what I call loyalty.. Mark Wotte, like the captain of the Titanic, he wasn't the first to jump ship.

 

Sadly, I agree with others here who have taken issue with you on this, but we can't live reality and still retain the mindset of a Premiership side. The departure of Andrew Surman means that we have no player with any sort of goal scoring record contracted to the club (except Rasiak and Saga), who want away, and no player who has been here more than a couple of seasons (excepting third year Academy lads).

 

This is the PITS ! from here on in the only way is up. The history was great but no more Ted Bates 1966, Lawrie Mac FA Cup 1976, Div.1 1978. Premiership, Cup Final, Keegan, Channon, MLT - it's all gone - except as a beautiful memory for those of us who lived it. If a new manager KK/GH or anyone else, moves us up to CCC in a year or two - that's improvement, but please don't let's compare the current situation to anything in the last 50 years. When I started supporting Saints they were 3rd Division South.. more or less the same as we will be again in August. Almost back to square one, but I'm still a fan.

If you criticise genuine effort, it damages all hope and belief that many of us have. Give us some constructive / helpful posts.

 

So here's my prediction :

We won't win every match this season. Some of our defenders will concede stupid goals, even own goals, and some will get red cards. If we succeed in signing strikers of any ability - they will miss penalties and open goals at some time or another and (sadly) some of our key players may be injured. If we get lucky we will make up the 10 point penalty and if we are VERY lucky we'll get a play-off place. It's unlikely to be Mark Wotte who gets us there, but if it is - I think we owe it to him to support him from day one. He's making an honest attempt to create a new team with no money, no help and no contract.

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BTW, I think Wotte spoke quite well on SSN just now. Quite honest in saying that the team is uncertain.

 

Thought Forecast could've done better with their goal. Bart for 1st choice next season?

 

 

 

Before he had that bad injury Bart had earned 1st position amongst our keepers. He has flattered sinced without really coming back so if he does get his confidence back I would be more than happy for him to be number 1 yet again.

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not many think he is that great but what does saying that every post actually achieve...?

 

 

**** me, coming from somebody who has done his or her fair share of moaning about managers.

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Rubbish. I want to say Wotte isnt good enough and will debate with those who challenge that opinion on this messageboard.

 

Maybe ..Wotte isn't good enough - but you're the only one with a crystal ball.

 

Personally speaking, I have a lot of respect for a man who has stayed with the club (often without critiscism) through these diabolical few months. It's obvious to most of us (and probably him, too) that he's NOT going to be managing the first team (under new ownership,) but nevertheless he's still there, training them and picking the side...and with no contract and no guaranteed future. Thats what I call loyalty.. Mark Wotte, like the captain of the Titanic, he wasn't the first to jump ship.

 

Sadly, I agree with others here who have taken issue with you on this, but we can't live reality and still retain the mindset of a Premiership side.

The departure of Andrew Surman means that we have no player with any sort of goal scoring record contracted to the club (except Rasiak and Saga), who want away, and no player who has been here more than a couple of seasons (excepting third year Academy lads).

 

This is the PITS ! from here on in the only way is up. The history was great but no more Ted Bates 1966, Lawrie Mac FA Cup 1976, Div.1 1978. Premiership, Cup Final, Keegan, Channon, MLT - it's all gone - except as a beautiful memory for those of us who lived it.

 

If a new manager KK/GH or anyone else, moves us up to CCC in a year or two - that's improvement, but please don't let's compare the current situtaion to anything in the last 50 years. When I started supporting Saints they were 3rd Division South.. more or less the same as we will be again in August.

 

If you continue to criticise genuine effort, it will damage all hope and belief that so many of us have. We need constructive / helpful posts / support.

So here's my prediction :

We won't win every match this season. Some of our defenders will concede

stupid goals, even own goals, and some will get red cards. If we succeed in

signing strikers of any ability - they will miss penalties and open goals at some time or another and (sadly) some of our key players may be injured.

If we get lucky we will make up the 10 point penalty and if we are VERY lucky we'll get a play-off place. It's unlikely to be Mark Wotte who gets us there, but if it is - I think we owe it to him to support him from day one.

He's making an honest attempt to create a new team with no money, no help and no contract.

 

And - yet again unfortunately I will have to post it... I will support Wotte in his efforts this season IF he is the man our new owners select.

 

But, I hope our new owners demonstrate ambition by taking a very early opportunity to give us someone better.

 

I have met no-one personally yet who has smiled at the prospect of him leading us... but note many vocal posters on here resigned to follow a second-stream man again (just as we have for 14 years with Lowe), when it MIGHT... just MIGHT be time for some real hope... perhaps that faded with MLT and Pinnacle... perhaps not. Fighting spirit amongst some seems to have faded to a low that may be understandable given the near destruction of something so dear to all of us. But, it is the path to further demise.

 

But, I am aiming as high as I think we can be this summer IF the right backer comes in, no more - no less. I have always been frustrated with those who'd roll over and accept our fate, throughout the Lowe years too many seemed to. But, perhaps thats because in my own profession I demand success as failure is not an option. Likewise in professional sport there is usually only one winner... that is the team who show ambition, demand success and act like gladiators for the cause. My crystal ball cannot tell me if Wotte is the man to do this. But, a very quick look around it tells me there are many who are more likely to be successful and deliver the one thing Wotte himself has said we need...

 

To start from scratch.

 

 

I agree with you though Dave - please do not think I am attacking you as your post is good constructive debate. If Wotte is what we are left with once the takeover goes through, then we support it. We have to support it. But, the takeover has not yet gone through, and when it does, it will be their decision to make. New ownership is looming. But are they men or mice? Ambitious men or will they reflect the sort of spirit being shown by those who roll over?

 

It's time to unite in support regardless. Problem is, apart from showing dignity in relegation and takeover ups and downs, has Wotte proven himself ON THE PITCH as the man to unite us... or will many many many more fans than me destroy every game he fails in over the next 9 months? Does he have credibility on the pitch? That is the question the new owners must decide and is the one we must support.

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Just back from the game and so pleased to have been able to see the red and white stripes on a pitch. A crowd of 1,700, the vast majority of which wore red n white, showed that this club is still alive.

First half had the "names" but the performance was poor, devoid of pace and ideas. I appreciate that it was only a pre-season friendly and the first one at that, but c'mon lads, put some effort in !

The exception was Gillet, who was everywhere, snapping away, tidy little passes and even getting ahead of the front men and into the box. Rasiak just didn't look interested and Bart was very poor ( one shot for the cameras excepted ), looking as though his confidence was shot. His kicking was wayward, handling poor, positioning dodgy and he was scrambling far too much for any defence's liking.

The second half was much better. Good movement, quick short triangles and a real desire and enthusiasm from a team that I struggled to recognise more than a couple of. The two stars were the blonde number 10 ( really good first touch, busy player, strong and looking to keep the ball moving and the opposition guessing ) and the blonde left back ( mobile, great first touch and control, reasonable right foot, good reading of the game and despite his lack of inches, strong in the challenge ( albeit against a smaller and younger right winger ) . Forecast looked much better ( one double save in particular ) and of the two I would be much happier with him between the sticks.

The sun shone,Saints were playing and it's my wedding anniversary, so champagne tonight !

( I took some photos so will try and post them in a while )

 

I have to say I don't know which Bart you were watching but I didn't see him do anything wrong at all. Forecast was ok, three good stops, but neither was particularly troubled and only one of them let in a goal (as I was getting in my car)

 

Blonde left back second half was Ben Reeves, who did do pretty well - and to answer whoever suggested Jack Boyle for the blonde guy earlier, he was the short, dark haired left midfielder wearing 11 in the second half. The (white) blonde #10 wasn't Pulis (short defensive midfielder, dark hair, did nothing much) or McNish, who is black.

 

It was either Durnford or Doble - but I dare say when I finish reading the posts since 5pm someone will have clarified who it was already.

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good to finally see some football, I feared we might not get to see this match.

 

first half very poor, eastleigh slightly the better team & Wotte's saints disinterested (sounds familiar). Struggled to make more than 3 passes & very direct. Gillett/Perry/Thomas only came out with any credit.

2nd half made it worthwhile, was a pleasure to see the youngsters play. Showed the first team how it's done in terms of technique, effort, comittment, pass & move. I appriciate the youngsters were gonna be more up for it but imo they taught the 1st team a lesson & clearly seem more competent natural footballers - compare to Wotton who could not trap a bag of cement & most passes ended up in row Z.

Some serious work to do with the 1st team - I praise Wottes commitment but I am not a MW fan at all, at least with some good young players (LB & no 10 particularly good) we may at least have some hope from the next generation.

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Why did we get him? What was the story there?

 

Another of last summer's dreadful signings, possibly a part ex. deal for Davies. Stoke probably said, "We'll give you £1m, or £1.2m plus Pulis" and we went for the latter.

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