OldNick Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 I have made it abundantly clear from many past posts, that I consider that our decline as a football club commenced from the date of the reverse takeover. As my appreciation of when the decline commenced predates yours by several years, how can you possibly say that it is me who needs to wake up from my land of make belief? If anything, it is you who has been living in cloud cuckoo land if you seriously believe that our decline only started with Crouch's siding with Wilde. As for your assessment of last season being mission impossible, yes, of course it was. Farming out our three main strikers, dismissing a competant manager and employing a couple of foreign managers with nil experience of this division, let alone football in England to replace him, playing the youth team in a formation that they were not comfortable with, of course it was mission impossible. Lowe failed to achieve our survival in this division, whereas it is entirely possible that somebody else like Pearson as manager might well have succeeded by taking a more sensible route, but that is as much conjecture as your assertions.Wes i really dont wish to go down all the old arguements but we had at the start of his return a 6.3m overdraft that the bank required to be reduced to 5m. We could not do so without farming out players and going down some really odd routes to get the costs down. Appearance money is another factor when you play players. A friend of my daughters plays for Luton, even if he only goes on for 10 seconds he gets £500 !!! can you imsagine what some of ours would get. As for the spiral down at the time of the reverse takeover, it well be the time, why nit when the old board would not fund the purchase of Trevor francis in the season we finished second??? To me you have to act/plan to the situation at that time and after relegation spending massivily was a gamble and some of us pointed that out but were accused of being biased as we were supposedly sore as RL had been removed. Not the case but the warnings were there. I like yourself dont need to be right we just need a football club and it is starting to dawn on us all that it may not be there.
OldNick Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 F uc k me..............round and round and round she go's, where she stops etc etc..... We had Stewpert relegate us from the PL........'we want Stewpert out' was the general cry.........and he was gone. Replaced by the biggest disaster in the clubs history MW. 2 years down the line.....the girlie gang all called for a saviour...up steps Stewpert, and hankies are waved, hearts torn..............then guess what.....yep!! we get relegated, not only that, we are Royally Ferked...so what do the girlie gang do 'Stewpert oh Stewpert....where for art thou'.........some would say, that this club has the fans it deserves............as evidenced by the hate posts delivered to TL over the last week or so.that is quite an amusing post Ginge. The club has the same mix as any other, fans who will attack fans physically at games as they did not like the thought that somebody did not hate RL (did you see those sickening scenes against Donny) some who will debate,some who will moan and some who will support, some who sit on their a#### and cant be bothered others who will travel the country to be disappointed, no different than any other club
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 I like yourself dont need to be right we just need a football club and it is starting to dawn on us all that it may not be there. As I said, I'd rather look forward rather than back. The debate as to whether a different result might have been achieved if the problem had been approached differently has been covered ad infinitum and is mostly a matter for conjecture. But it has been established to the satisfaction of most that the circumstances did not dictate that the route taken by Lowe was the only one available. As I said, although we have been right up to the edge of the precipice yesterday, I am feeling a lot more optimistic today that the club will continue in the third division with -10, new owners, new manager, new players. I will be there with my ST hoping that our climb back up the tables will commence then.
OldNick Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 As I said, I'd rather look forward rather than back. The debate as to whether a different result might have been achieved if the problem had been approached differently has been covered ad infinitum and is mostly a matter for conjecture. But it has been established to the satisfaction of most that the circumstances did not dictate that the route taken by Lowe was the only one available. As I said, although we have been right up to the edge of the precipice yesterday, I am feeling a lot more optimistic today that the club will continue in the third division with -10, new owners, new manager, new players. I will be there with my ST hoping that our climb back up the tables will commence then.Here here to that Wes
alpine_saint Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 At the moment I'd take Lowe as chairman with Branfoot as director of football and Wrigley as head coach. Anyone who would rather Saints ceased to be can frankly bugger off to PompeyMad where you belong. How about a third way - starting afresh ?
Gordon Mockles Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 As it reads really, what would you prefer? Liquidation. Otherwise, anything that has happened can be attributed to the divisive antics of a master plan from Lowe...and he's a complete c*nt who deserves to be lobotomized and thrown in an institution.
Mole Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Time to forget the toffy nosed c**t. Some people are obsessed with Lowe. Let it go my Luvvielies.
alpine_saint Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Time to forget the toffy nosed c**t. Couldnt care what his nose was made of personally, all I know he couldnt manage a football club to save his life.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 The severe mis-management of the club by Lowe has led us to the brink of liquidation. No-one else is as fully implicated in the clubs demise than that man. The question therefore is invalid - one goes fist in glove with the other.
SaintRobbie Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 As it reads really, what would you prefer? Lowe would delay our eventual move to liquidation... indeed Lowe delivered liquidation, or nearly did (god bless the Swiss!). Lowe is the answer I suppose... but irrelevant question. Always been buyers. And the serious ones are about to finish the deal.
SaintRobbie Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 both choices result in the same. Exactly - slow lingering death or sudden swift one.
Mole Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe dieing of cancer next week or Saints going out of existence next week. Which would you prefer?
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe dieing of cancer next week or Saints going out of existence next week. Which would you prefer? ****tish post
bridge too far Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe dieing of cancer next week or Saints going out of existence next week. Which would you prefer? What a nasty post
Wade Garrett Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Correction - you have zero interest in the football club. Hello Nineteen. Having a good day, you boring c*nt.
Wade Garrett Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Some people are obsessed with Lowe. Let it go my Luvvielies. Lowe dieing of cancer next week or Saints going out of existence next week. Which would you prefer? Not your finest moment Mole.
Mole Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Not your finest moment Mole. I think it might be the sun. My back is bright red from being out in the sun all day.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 Hello Nineteen. Having a good day, you boring c*nt. Not your finest moment.
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 silly question. Anyone who says they would prefer no club doesn't support saints. i totaly agree. To rather see our club fold than 1 man come back. How pathetic
scally Posted 1 July, 2009 Posted 1 July, 2009 This has got to be the most pointless thread I have ever seen on here.
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