Messages to MLT

[darren]

I think its disgraceful that if someone questions (not slags off) someone, even if it is MLT then people have this attitude that they are wrong and should be hanged etc.

I met Matt a few weeks ago, got a picture etc, he is God, but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way. But i cannot say that without being accused of being a Skate or something like that? ****ing riddiculous. There is right bunch of morons on this forum, especially in the last few posts.

Those people who have called Matt Le Tossier are *****s, theres no substance to statements like that but Darren made a valid point and is being patronised and almost bullied by a bunch of 'know it all, been supporting saints since i was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots.

Matt is a top man, but like all of us, it seems (and until we hear from him about what he actually knew) he was a bit duped, and like I SAID BEFORE, HE AIN'T THE ONLY ONE BY FAR.

 

thanks for that mate.

[Badger]

matt was blinded by the fact he was goin to be chairman.

i feel let down by him today.

 

I feel let down FOR him.

 

And for all of us.

[Matthew Le Tissier]

i didnt think today could get any worse, but it just had.

 

Who the **** do some of you lot think you are, i honestly havent been so stunned in all my life supporting saints.

 

How some of you can turn on mlt just because he was the face of a failed bid.

 

You cvnts, you probably are too young to have witnessed him keep us in the prem year after year, you probably are too young to have witnessed the joy and excitement he brought to thousands of people week in week out.

 

He has the freedom of the city ffs, how many people get given that.

 

You f**king c**ts are f**king scum.

 

 

 

i agree 100%

 

these cvnts do not even deserve a mention.this may be a bit harsh but if you think of southampton fc as a body, i class these bafoons as the a tumor on the rectum.

 

**** off and die

[Noodles34]

i agree 100%

 

these cvnts do not even deserve a mention.this may be a bit harsh but if you think of southampton fc as a body, i class these bafoons as the a tumor on the rectum.

 

**** off and die

 

excellent response, nothing like reasoned debating

[Fan The Flames]

I think its disgraceful that if someone questions (not slags off) someone, even if it is MLT then people have this attitude that they are wrong and should be hanged etc.

I met Matt a few weeks ago, got a picture etc, he is God, but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way. But i cannot say that without being accused of being a Skate or something like that? ****ing riddiculous. There is right bunch of morons on this forum, especially in the last few posts.

Those people who have called Matt Le Tossier are *****s, theres no substance to statements like that but Darren made a valid point and is being patronised and almost bullied by a bunch of 'know it all, been supporting saints since i was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots.

Matt is a top man, but like all of us, it seems (and until we hear from him about what he actually knew) he was a bit duped, and like I SAID BEFORE, HE AIN'T THE ONLY ONE BY FAR.

 

Isn't that the point, no one knows the facts yet a few have chosen to jump on him already. Only a very few No one minds people questioning his judgement but its the few that have found him guilty already is what is bothering.

 

Was Darrens (who seems like a good bloke) point valid or was it another opinion not based on fact.

[Marsdinho]

I think its disgraceful that if someone questions (not slags off) someone, even if it is MLT then people have this attitude that they are wrong and should be hanged etc.

I met Matt a few weeks ago, got a picture etc, he is God, but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way. But i cannot say that without being accused of being a Skate or something like that? ****ing riddiculous. There is right bunch of morons on this forum, especially in the last few posts.

Those people who have called Matt Le Tossier are *****s, theres no substance to statements like that but Darren made a valid point and is being patronised and almost bullied by a bunch of 'know it all, been supporting saints since i was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots.

Matt is a top man, but like all of us, it seems (and until we hear from him about what he actually knew) he was a bit duped, and like I SAID BEFORE, HE AIN'T THE ONLY ONE BY FAR.

 

Ok, I’m going to make this my last post as I have school tomorrow.....

 

I can answer this argument in one simple quote

 

"but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way"

 

From this comment you are admitting to not being ITK (like the rest of us). So, all you have to go on is the information you have either read on here, or in the press. That being the case, how can you / someone question his integrity and thought process behind his decisions.

 

He obviously cares about Saints judging by his reaction here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAz4jnAOhzE so why can’t people understand that if he is approached by someone wanting to take over the club and save it, obviously he is going to jump at the chance.

 

Very few people know what has gone on behind the scenes for Matt these last few weeks, we don’t know how much time and effort he has given to this project, yet some people feel "let down"

 

I’m not sure if you are aware, but he is thought of quite highly around these parts and some of us are feeling pretty p1ssed off at the moment.

 

That being the case, when someone questions MLT, it’s going to strike a nerve....

 

And no, its not bullying, it’s called having an argument, and I’m going to treat this comment ("'know it all, been supporting saints since I was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots") with the contempt that it deserves.

Edited 30 June, 2009 by Marsdinho

[rallyboy]

this thread went downhill straight after the promising start of people offering up their women - if I was him I would want to see photos first, and recent ones.

 

It now seems to be spot the ******, and there are several to choose from.

 

 

What did MLT ever do for us??....I checked out his goals on youtube and most of them were mi****, and the other 35 featured were just lucky because he was surrounded by superior players like Dowie.

And let's not forget that as soon as he got too old he abandoned us, in fact it's his fault we went down.

Both times.

Bastard.

And don't start me on Bates....or Keegan, Channon, Ball, Davies etc, all losers.

[Noodles34]

Ok, I’m going to make this my last post as I have school tomorrow.....

 

I can answer this argument in one simple quote

 

"but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way"

 

From this comment you are admitting to not being ITK (like the rest of us). So, all you have to go on is the information you have either read on here, or in the press. That being the case, how can you / someone question his integrity and thought process behind his decisions.

 

He obviously cares about Saints judging by his reaction here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAz4jnAOhzE so why can’t people understand that if he is approached by someone wanting to take over the club and save it, obviously he is going to jump at the chance.

 

Very few people know what has gone on behind the scenes for Matt these last few weeks, we don’t know how much time and effort he has given to this project, yet some people feel "let down"

 

I’m not sure if you are aware, but he is thought of quite highly around these parts and some of us are feeling pretty p1ssed off at the moment.

 

That being the case, when someone questions MLT, it’s going to strike a nerve....

 

And no, its not bullying, it’s called having an argument, and I’m going to treat this comment ("'know it all, been supporting saints since I was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots") with the contempt that it deserves.

 

at least that was a bit more adult than "**** off you ****s",

 

that said, some people do feel let down, but thats how they feel, can they not express it without being verbally abused, Darren originally said

 

matt was blinded by the fact he was goin to be chairman.

i feel let down by him today.

 

Now he does not know that Matt was blinded by the fact that he was going to be chairman, but its a fare assessment, I think anyone would be excited by that. However darren perhaps should have started by "I think....." rather than addressing the issue as fact. And he feels let down, well thats how he feels, you just can't argue with his own emmotions.

 

However it does not excuse people verbally shooting him down for expressing an opinion, if called MLT a p[rick or whatever then fine, he would desereve the same contempt back but he didn't, the fact that he cares so much about Le Tiss is the reason he feels let down.

[Under Weststand]

Heard the news about Pinnacle on the way to work & had a quick look on here at Lunch time, and whilst being as gutted as everyone else about the situation. I'm amazed at the attacks on Matt, out of all of our ex players HE has stood up to be counted & tried his best for the club he love's, could he have done any more I seriously doubt it, Did he let his love for the club cloud his judgement, who knows. Until we know the full facts about the problems with the FL then I will reserve my judgement about Tony Lynam & his influence on this. But Matt has only had SFC interests at heart. Thanks for at least trying Matt.

I just feel this is more to do with something else they want to hit us with just my opinion.

All we can do is pray that there is a last minute reprieve PLEASE.

[Noodles34]

personally this is all way over the top, counted about 8 posts that were critical of matt and apart from a couple of outright tossers most were reasonable critiques without being personal and accepting that perhaps he'd been a bit naive or duped etc. so all this ******** that the whole forum is slagging off matt is just (as usual) complete overkill.

Can we all "Get a Grip"

[Marsdinho]

Noodles, this is a forum where people express their opinions and feelings. Darren expressed his, we expressed ours.

 

If you look at my original post, it wasnt actually directed at anyone in particular. I certainly didnt call him a skate or bully him.

 

It seems Im not the only one to have this opinion though.

[darren]

I think i visited the forum at the wrong time all the idiots have gone now.

[Noodles34]

Noodles, this is a forum where people express their opinions and feelings. Darren expressed his, we expressed ours.

 

If you look at my original post, it wasnt actually directed at anyone in particular. I certainly didnt call him a skate or bully him.

 

It seems Im not the only one to have this opinion though.

 

fair enough, but you were rather rude at points, anyway, we are all saints fans are we not?

 

 

I'm having a fag and going to bed now, remember:

 

There is a problem, and though i may not agree with you, you are not the problem.

[Marsdinho]

I guess we are all feeling a little tetchy at the moment.

 

Goodnight

[chrisobee]

personally this is all way over the top, counted about 8 posts that were critical of matt and apart from a couple of outright tossers most were reasonable critiques without being personal and accepting that perhaps he'd been a bit naive or duped etc. so all this ******** that the whole forum is slagging off matt is just (as usual) complete overkill.

Can we all "Get a Grip"

 

I agree to a point but the fact is that the 8 posts you refer to ( I'll take your word on the number!) were totally unacceptable criticism whether it be aimed at MLT or any individual. I dare say if the posters in question used the terms they did against other posters they would deservedly get banned. Just because MLT is not a member of this forum I don't see it makes any difference TBH.

Anyway as I said I agree most posters are reasonable, it's a shame a few seem to go out of their way to be as insulting as possible.

[Legod Third Coming]

My message to Matt?

 

Thank God you are not a c u n t like some of the fans we have.

[up and away]

As i started reading this i thought... Some nice comments i will forward this to matt.

 

Then i read on.......theres no way i will pass this on as what some have you have written is disgrace. You should be ashamed.

 

It just proves the point that some of you cvnts are never happy.

 

The man tried his best end of. He done more than any of you little muppets who sit by your pc all day and criticize every man and his dog.

 

I am lost for words. I never thought i would see the day matt would get turned on by some of his own fans.

 

****s

 

I agree with FF's view on Matty, Listening to that interview where he states he did everything possible limits his abilities, that it makes me wonder. I was well aware from the beginning that he was not going to add much more than hope, but I would at least expect to own up in some small manner for what he has been part of.

 

That said, such is everything he has done for us in the past I could not hold any form of grudge or ill will towards the guy because of everything he has done for us previously. I am disappointed in him but that will more than likely be gone tomorrow.

[LostBoys]

I am staggered at some of the ridiculous posts on this thread. All Matt is guilty of is trying to save SFC and perhaps naivety in aligning himself with Pinnacle but I cannot make the latter judgement unless I know how he was introduced to Pinnacle and who by and what evidence of proof of funding was given to him at that time.

[Stirchleysaint]

I take the view that Matt acted with the best of intentions. However, they do say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Sometimes you can make a situation worse by intervening.

[CB Fry]

personally this is all way over the top, counted about 8 posts that were critical of matt and apart from a couple of outright tossers most were reasonable critiques without being personal and accepting that perhaps he'd been a bit naive or duped etc. so all this ******** that the whole forum is slagging off matt is just (as usual) complete overkill.

Can we all "Get a Grip"

 

 

Agree with this. It's also worth pointing out that if the figurehead was AN Other person on earth, they would be getting ripped apart on here for lying, deceit, leading the fans on etc. Just like Mr Lynam in fact.

 

So some gentle appraisal of MLT's limitations is not exactly crime of the century, not least because I am sure he is feeling a little bit of a tit himself at the moment.

 

 

And before some loon gives it all the "HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!" routine with me, I'm quoting my own post from further up this very thread.

 

 

He's probably guilty of believing too much. He probably feels more gutted, let down and angry than any of us right now.

 

Fans slagging him off really are shameful.

 

Legend last year, legend last week, legend yesterday, legend today.

 

Legend, forever.

 

So there.

[rolosfc]

Your reputation will never be tarnished Matt, always my hero.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I am sorry Matt is guilty of being naive. I told him on Saturday morning that Pinnacle were frauds and duping him but he shouted me down and would not listen.

 

My favourite ever Saints player but he did not do his homework. Nor have others imo.

 

Sums it up for me. Also disappointed with his interview on South Today with his comment that fans should not direct their anger to those who tried. Smacks of double standards but I still direct my anger towards the missing 5k or so fans who helped bring on administration in the first place.

 

I find it incomprehensible that those involved with the Pinnacle deal went in to this with their eyes wide shut . Perhaps unusually the Echo need to be thanked for their expose and not forgetting Guided Missile.

 

Perhaps in this era of face book there is to much acceptance of face value and once again a lack of due diligence IMO.

[Nineteen Canteen]

As far as I am concerned MLT will be more than welcomed in any future role with Saints. The man is beyond reproach! He is one of my"Top 5 Heroes" on Facebook after Lord Nelson and Spike Milligan and before James Taylor and Jackson Browne. THAT`S how important the man is to me!!

 

All of them with the exception of Nelson flawed geniuses is some form or other and in Browne's case difficult to countenance the allegations. Your definition of a hero is somewhat different to the type of individual I would like running this club.

 

No one is beyond reproach and reputations need to be worked on and not lived off.

[Nineteen Canteen]

i agree 100%

 

these cvnts do not even deserve a mention.this may be a bit harsh but if you think of southampton fc as a body, i class these bafoons as the a tumor on the rectum.

 

**** off and die

 

LOL - type of comment that can usually be attributed to the 'big game' attendee. Time to turn your baseball cap around the peak is supposed to go at the front.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Ok, I’m going to make this my last post as I have school tomorrow.....

 

I can answer this argument in one simple quote

 

"but has he made some judgemental errors in the last few weeks? well from the outside, it certainly looks that way"

 

From this comment you are admitting to not being ITK (like the rest of us). So, all you have to go on is the information you have either read on here, or in the press. That being the case, how can you / someone question his integrity and thought process behind his decisions.

 

 

He obviously cares about Saints judging by his reaction here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAz4jnAOhzE so why can’t people understand that if he is approached by someone wanting to take over the club and save it, obviously he is going to jump at the chance.

 

Very few people know what has gone on behind the scenes for Matt these last few weeks, we don’t know how much time and effort he has given to this project, yet some people feel "let down"

 

I’m not sure if you are aware, but he is thought of quite highly around these parts and some of us are feeling pretty p1ssed off at the moment.

 

That being the case, when someone questions MLT, it’s going to strike a nerve....

 

And no, its not bullying, it’s called having an argument, and I’m going to treat this comment ("'know it all, been supporting saints since I was 2, I'm never wrong' idiots") with the contempt that it deserves.

 

IMO it was not MLT's initial backing of Pinnacle but his alleged head in the sand attitude when things started to look odd at best. His backing of Fialka and his comments as to why he had no right to know the details of Fialka's financal position was IMO very foolish. Furthermore, if when push came to shove the 10pt deduction was not considered worth losing the deal over why could that conclusion not have been made during exclusivity?

 

No one disputes the fact that we are grateful for MLT supporting Pinnacle it's his dubious decision making and subsequent communication that has tarnished his reputation IMO.

 

I was championing a role for MLT with any subsequent takeover but now more than ever I firmly believe the new board if we get lucky enough to have one should contain only new faces without any prior connection to the club. I am not interested in any contribution from the likes of Crouch, MLT, McMenemy, etc as it just fuels unrealistic romantic notions and what we need more than anything else is a large dose of realism.

 

We cannot influence the past only the future and the frist thing is to learn from our past mistakes. Rule 1 a passion for golf can't be supported alongside running a football club and IMO in any business can contribute to complacency.

[SaintRobbie]

IMO it was not MLT's initial backing of Pinnacle but his alleged head in the sand attitude when things started to look odd at best. His backing of Fialka and his comments as to why he had no right to know the details of Fialka's financal position was IMO very foolish. Furthermore, if when push came to shove the 10pt deduction was not considered worth losing the deal over why could that conclusion not have been made during exclusivity?

 

No one disputes the fact that we are grateful for MLT supporting Pinnacle it's his dubious decision making and subsequent communication that has tarnished his reputation IMO.

 

I was championing a role for MLT with any subsequent takeover but now more than ever I firmly believe the new board if we get lucky enough to have one should contain only new faces without any prior connection to the club. I am not interested in any contribution from the likes of Crouch, MLT, McMenemy, etc as it just fuels unrealistic romantic notions and what we need more than anything else is a large dose of realism.

 

We cannot influence the past only the future and the frist thing is to learn from our past mistakes. Rule 1 a passion for golf can't be supported alongside running a football club and IMO in any business can contribute to complacency.

 

Interesting perspective. Have to say I am inclined to agree with you for once. Although, I would love to see MLT back the new owners 100%, which I am sure he and Lawrie Mac will.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Interesting perspective. Have to say I am inclined to agree with you for once. Although, I would love to see MLT back the new owners 100%, which I am sure he and Lawrie Mac will.

 

Must be clean sweep for me Robbie I'm afraid we have been let down my to many old faces and time to put our trust in someone new. I like your avatar - let's hope this time it proves to be a prophecy worth believing.

[dellgirl]

Don't be so ready to knock Matt...think of all the other players who have come through the Club, have gone on to bigger and better things and earned mega money on the back of their time with Southampton, have we heard a squeak out of any of them,have they tried to help ....no

[RedArmy]

If you ever needed confirmation we have the gayest fans in the country...this thread is it.

 

The biggest Saints legend of our generation, possibly ever, who at least TRIED to save our club and he gets slagged off. If I was him, I would'nt have even bothered, you dickheads don't deserve it.

 

 

Thanks for trying Matt, hopefully one day you WILL get to be chairman of the club.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

If you ever needed confirmation we have the gayest fans in the country...this thread is it.

 

The biggest Saints legend of our generation, possibly ever, who at least TRIED to save our club and he gets slagged off. If I was him, I would'nt have even bothered, you dickheads don't deserve it.

 

 

Thanks for trying Matt, hopefully one day you WILL get to be chairman of the club.

 

Sorry mate you are wrong.

If you allow your name to be used to promote something you should at least check out the product being promoted. Matt's (well-intentioned) actions gave Pinnacle status they never deserved and as a consequence the club is in crisis. If I was Matt I would be feeling very queasy.

[The Fat Controller]

Keep your head up Tiss - at least you got off your arse to do something positive for our club. any mindless individuals slating tiss off should take a step back and remember the good he gave the club in the past. This bloke will never get booed at St Mary's despite everyone's current frustrations

[WIGANSAINT]

we all get duped sometimes.

at least you tried,but the writng was on the wall for well over a week now

[mel1961red]

To me you will always be the best player I have ever seen play for Southampton football club and you will always be the most loyal I thank you so much for that and I know you did what you thought was best in this instance, unfortunately like us fans it seem you were taken for a ride and your good name used to front a group who were not as loyal and not at all serious in saving the club, I am sure that fans will never blame you for trying and will give you a standing ovation for the first game at St Marys this season XXXXXXXX

[Mower]

Thanks for nothing Le Tossier.....

 

 

That's totally out of order. I couldn't give a flying **** how long you've supported the saints....why don't you **** off down the road?