Fan The Flames Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 It looks like the FL were looking out for our best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 wait for "its all the fl's fault" No doubt that will happen, however, the FL will have had a hand in it that is definate. If you committ a crime then you have the right to appeal, Mawhinney holds himself up higher than the law of the land, Q.E.D. their stubborn attitude could or probably has had a say in what we are hearing today, that is a fact that no one can deny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 When one door shuts, at least one other opens DONT STOP BELIEVING - THIS IS NOT OVER YET BY A LONG WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttomski Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I think the reason was that the FL were going to add on a another -15 point penalty over the SLH issue. Now that Pinnacle are out of it, if a new bidder comes in and accepts immediately that the Club is in admin (putting aside the argument of whether or not it actuallly is for the moment), would this not then remove that obstacle, if indeed that is what this is all about? I don't blame MLT for 1 second in any of this COYR I honestly cant see anyone wanting to pay 15mil for the club with these conditions. Its probably worth about 30 quid now. Now on SSN site too http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11700_5407649,00.html kin tossers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I have to say, I actually admire the blind optimism of some people on here. It has been obvious for at least five days, and a lot longer than that in hindsight, that this bunch of clowns/crooks had 0% chance of buying the club. But to have such faith that you, still, think there might be a bright side, amazing. In all sincerity, I wish I wasn't so cynical. Anyway, with any luck Lynam may be facing some serious time in jail! I still can't believe some people are blaming the FL or banging on about an extra 15 points. We *know* what happened. We *know* that was all a ruse to buy more time and find another backer after the original group pulled out (presumably because they sensed Lynam was a delusional, paranoid, self-obsessed small-time charlatan). Questions do remain as to how Fry was strung along for so long, and even more so, tragically, why Matty even yesterday was still trotting out the party line. He must feel so let down, but really, could he not see that it had all fallen apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 i FEAR WE ARE COMING TO THEV END OF OUR BELOVED TEAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dello Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 so fry can begin his winding up now... all players released (except youth) and staplewood sold to barrett homes or someone similar... maybe council will step in and buy the stadium (well service the debt anyway) if we're lucky so we'll have something left to rebuild with in the Blue Premier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Who'd a thought it. Pinnacle in Tyre Kicking shocker But to echo scott_saints, TL you are a total pr1ck. Wonder if we will see much of The Farmer on ere now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Come on the Swiss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Even though my left arm is tingling, this club will NOT DIE IN MY LIFETIME!! KEEP THE FAITH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I am not surprised one iota. Pinnacle appeared to be quite serious initially,obviously. I think this enthusiasm soon began to dissapear,possibly because the "new money man" Fialka was full of **** and wind,and this became apparent to MLT,eventually. Matt, i think you were taken in,hook line and sinker. The league have not come out of this fiasco at all well either,fecked up the -10 ruling,and now maywell be trying to put in place other sanctions against us......this is just the excuse for Pinnacle to bail out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Latest attempt at straw clutching. Do you think MJ & pinnacle dropping out within 2 hours of each other is just the mechanics of paving the way for the new, rather swiss like, owners being announced. Please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Even though my left arm is tingling, this club will NOT DIE IN MY LIFETIME!! KEEP THE FAITH Why do you keep saying things like this is the face of such appauling facts to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 And I was so looking forawrd to tucking into that Humble Pie. Seriously, a glib comment but a serious point. This is the the news we all saw coming, but NONE of us wanted. We been played again chaps. To be honest. I give up. SFC doesn't deserve this, but then it doesn't deserve fans as passionate as you lot either. You're right. When Fialka was wheeled out my brain kept waiving a large red flag which my heart tried its best, but not very successfully to ignore. There was never any money there and a lot of people have been taken to the cleaners. Poor Leon Crouch if as the rumours have it he put up the £500K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Any proper businessman would do the same. Pressure is on the seller. The buyers are looking for a lower price. Its so common in business to scare them last min. I full expect them to come back in and buy for less. Dillusional post of the year? Lower prices below break up value = break up, this is cash not sentiment. Aviva shareholders could start a class action against the administrator if a deal he concludes results in a figure below firesale. I have no idea nor does any one else in reality what the numbers are, but I would hazard a guess that no one is walking in without paying 10m to Aviva and then having to pay some creditors, so a 12-14m package. Anything less than that just isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I will put a brick thru Tony Lynam's window on my way thru Park gate on my drive home tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Dillusional post of the year? Lower prices below break up value = break up, this is cash not sentiment. Aviva shareholders could start a class action against the administrator if a deal he concludes results in a figure below firesale. I have no idea nor does any one else in reality what the numbers are, but I would hazard a guess that no one is walking in without paying 10m to Aviva and then having to pay some creditors, so a 12-14m package. Anything less than that just isn't going to happen. Is a firesale really worth £10m to Aviva? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 (edited) I am very sorry about this but it was inevitable after the no money money man idiot Fialka did that ridiculous interview on SSN last week. It was clear the backer, if they ever had one, had done a runner and no amount of PR bull**** from Mr Lynam was ever going to paper over the funding cracks or in this case chasm. I am sure that Mr Lynam put this effort in for the right reasons but as a chancer and as obvious to anyone who has purchased a company, a complete amateur it was doomed to failure. Unfortunately everyone now knows who he is where he lives and works and he may find his customers drying up which is a shame. It just goes to prove that you should never promise what you cannot deliver ad if in doubt keep quiet and not make statements which clearly emanate from your backside. Edited 30 June, 2009 by LostBoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I will put a brick thru Tony Lynam's window on my way thru Park gate on my drive home tonight. How very grown up of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 it may just be me but i have got to the stage of being so fed up of all this that i dont really care now....SO BORED OF IT ALL, can only really laugh about it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Morph....what is Mr Saltz doing about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Tony Lynham you're an absolute c**t. To be fair Scott, its highly likely that posts like this one helped contribute to Pinnacle pulling out. I hope some fans have learnt to shut up and let the process go on without stupid comment and criticism. We just lost a perfect opportunity to sell the club to someone who could unite the fans and cared. Now we take what we get - we will be bought out.... but I hope some of the more impatient and negative posters on here can sleep tonight knowing they MIGHT just MIGHT have helped put off the best deal we could have possibly hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Why do you keep saying things like this is the face of such appauling facts to the contrary? a) I'm in denial (permanently) b) I have always based my life on naieve optimism c) I truly believe it will all be Ok (see A above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 My flatmate is a friend of Gordon Watson and Nigel Pearson (his son is being eyed up by Leicester apparently). He told me well over a week ago that from speaking to those two he had heard Pinnacle didn't have a pot in which to urinate. My blind faith and the fact that I did not want to be labelled a n0ob ITK tosser prevented me from posting anything on here or indeed believing this was true, however as soon as I saw the bizarre David Gest/comedy vampire hybrid visage of Michael Fialka my hopes were dashed and inner fears confirmed. What a joke. Am going to stop at Aldi and buy a load of cheapo lager and get wasted tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Didn't the Coventry takeover go through right at the last minute - there's hope I tell thee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Has MF made any sort of comment yet? Perhaps he's too busy and concentrating on the Swiss people at the moment? I know - straw clutching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbay Saint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 This post is more out of blind faith than anything else but.... Pinnacle have pulled out the day Jackson does also. Are they paving the way for someone else or looking to drive the price down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 To be fair Scott, its highly likely that posts like this one helped contribute to Pinnacle pulling out. I hope some fans have learnt to shut up and let the process go on without stupid comment and criticism. We just lost a perfect opportunity to sell the club to someone who could unite the fans and cared. Now we take what we get - we will be bought out.... but I hope some of the more impatient and negative posters on here can sleep tonight knowing they MIGHT just MIGHT have helped put off the best deal we could have possibly hoped for. Utter, Utter bull. Total tripe. The negativity has started since it became plain to see that TL was buying time and actually the 'consortium' didn't have a pot to **** in. i.e Tuesday nowards. Wheeling out some Barnet homeboy as the money man didn't particularly help. I shall say again, if someone is put off by a few fans thoughts then they cannot have been that serious in the first place. TL said a number of times they were going to see it through etc and he has plainly lied. And now i expect, gone into hiding. I for one will be playing every charity golf day i can to try to catch up with the bloke..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 To be fair Scott, its highly likely that posts like this one helped contribute to Pinnacle pulling out. I hope some fans have learnt to shut up and let the process go on without stupid comment and criticism. We just lost a perfect opportunity to sell the club to someone who could unite the fans and cared. Now we take what we get - we will be bought out.... but I hope some of the more impatient and negative posters on here can sleep tonight knowing they MIGHT just MIGHT have helped put off the best deal we could have possibly hoped for. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Why all the references to Salz? Hasn't he been prominent only by his total absence? If he had wanted to by the club he would have done so ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Is a firesale really worth £10m to Aviva? We can only speculate about which asset and which charge is in which company, but if as I would presume SLH are the mortgagee, effectively Aviva would have presumably both a fixed charge on SMS and a floating charge on SLH, which would include Marchwood etc. I am not an expert in land valuation, but I would be surprised if the combined sales of the real estate were not worth a figure in the region of 8-10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 This post is more out of blind faith than anything else but.... Pinnacle have pulled out the day Jackson does also. Are they paving the way for someone else or looking to drive the price down? Welcome back Mr Lowe........that's just a frightening thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I think the reason was that the FL were going to add on a another -15 point penalty over the SLH issue. Now that Pinnacle are out of it, if a new bidder comes in and accepts immediately that the Club is in admin (putting aside the argument of whether or not it actuallly is for the moment), would this not then remove that obstacle, if indeed that is what this is all about? I don't blame MLT for 1 second in any of this COYR i think that was the problem even mark fry said the football league added 6 pages of extra conditions at the last minute . i expected it to go to friday anyway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Has MF made any sort of comment yet? Perhaps he's too busy and concentrating on the Swiss people at the moment? I know - straw clutching. He's stocking up on souvenirs in the mega store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch-Saint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 More bad news for our prestigious club. FFS when can we see some GOOD news for a change......and how can a club like Skatemouth be in the premiership with financial clout...and us....well....think i'll just get stoned tonight and dream of the good old days.... bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 I have to say, I actually admire the blind optimism of some people on here. It has been obvious for at least five days, and a lot longer than that in hindsight, that this bunch of clowns/crooks had 0% chance of buying the club. But to have such faith that you, still, think there might be a bright side, amazing. In all sincerity, I wish I wasn't so cynical. Anyway, with any luck Lynam may be facing some serious time in jail! I still can't believe some people are blaming the FL or banging on about an extra 15 points. We *know* what happened. We *know* that was all a ruse to buy more time and find another backer after the original group pulled out (presumably because they sensed Lynam was a delusional, paranoid, self-obsessed small-time charlatan). Questions do remain as to how Fry was strung along for so long, and even more so, tragically, why Matty even yesterday was still trotting out the party line. He must feel so let down, but really, could he not see that it had all fallen apart? I would love to hear the FL view on this. Something completely different no doubt, like find a proven backer. As for Fry, he has some serious explaining to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Why do we seem to attract the attention seeking wide-boys ? Guided Missile - your apology has been withdrawn on your behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Why does Salz's name keep being mentioned? He could have bought the club at any time but doesn't seem to have been near this auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 This post is more out of blind faith than anything else but.... Pinnacle have pulled out the day Jackson does also. Are they paving the way for someone else or looking to drive the price down? exactly my opinion. Have MJ and Pinnacle pulled out as they cannot match what the Swiss have offered therefore saving face????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Cheer up everyone, we still have our memories; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Is this because more points will be takern off!!!!!!!!! I cant say how bad I feel, I was fairly optimistic we would get good news and now this. I feel really really down as if ive just given up on hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 MLT showed in his statement last week that he didn't really know what was going on and was just acting as a PR front. It is a shame that he allowed himself to be used as it was his name that made people feel that Pinnacle had some credability. It was always hard to see how he could chair the club with no business expeience and without control of the finances. The 10 point penalty was never a make or break issue and seems to have been latched onto as an excuse by Pinnacle. According to the Echo there are still two horses in the race - The Swiss Group and the 'Overseas Consortium', but unless one of them pays for exclusivity, and very quickly, its hard to take them seriously. I wouldn't recommend any wrist-slashing until Friday, and even then, lets remember this is only football, there are other things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 a) I'm in denial (permanently) b) I have always based my life on naieve optimism c) I truly believe it will all be Ok (see A above) Fair enough my friend I envy you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 No surprise at all - the Pinnacle bid was a joke from the start. It was patently obvious they were massively out of their league, even in League 1.l My only regret is so many felllow fans got sucked in and had their hopes dashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5407649,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Lynam is an impecunious bv11$hitter as many of us have been saying for weeks. MLT has either cynically milked his legend status or demonstrated that he is a gullible idiot in matters of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 RIP Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 We have been conned, but who is behind it ? Who has a score to settle ? Not Lynam, he was the green behind the ears fall guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 30 June, 2009 Share Posted 30 June, 2009 Someone, surely someone, is watching this with their finger on the trigger ready to step in and buy this club. I cannot believe that not to be the case. Hope springs eternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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