Dmg to Forest - OS

[Junior Mullet]

I just don't think McGoldrick has an attitude that will bring him any success, whilst Paterson is a worker and has finishing ability, although he too has a long way to go.

 

 

I wonder why you think Patterson has finishing ability. From seeing him play quite a bit for the ressies, the U 18's and a few times for the first team I would say quite the opposite. I agree he is a team player and a very professional attitude to the game but he is woefully slow and lacks creativity and skill on the ball. I don't see him being anything more than a lower league player flicking balls on to a nippy centre forward at best, in a few years time.

 

Just out of interest I would like to know what you have seen of Patterson other than his attitude that makes him a good goalscorer. (for the record I would have a 100% perfect attitude if I got to play in the red and white but doubt I would ever score for the team).

 

I would love to be proved wrong however because he seems like a good lad.

 

Now if you were suggesting you were looking forward to having Stern John back in place of DMG I would see your point.

[Legod Third Coming]

Thias story shows there are very few real ITKs doesn't it??

 

Been negotiating for six weeks and naff all on here about it.

[londonsaint1604]

An undisclosed seven-figure fee?

 

£50,000.00 seems about right. lolz!

[The9]

He scored quite a few goals for a team that created little ,and he was playing as a lone striker for much of the time before dropping back. MLT was a lazy looking player but when it mattered he would light up and then.. DMG's demeanour I agree looks lazy but he wasn't and will be a decent player. Im saddened by his departure but like you knew this and manuuy other disappointments would come our way by going into administration

 

We created loads of chances in the first few weeks when Holmes was playing, he sometimes managed to drag himself away from the half way line for long enough to get near the box for some of them, and after that seemed not to make the effort at all, in amongst the general confusion of who was where in the (not) 4-3-3...

 

I just can't believe anyone can post "he wasn't lazy" in any seriousness on the subject of McGoldrick. I saw him make approximately 4 runs off the ball in the entire season (at home anyway), and I watch the strikers off the ball more than anyone else on the pitch.

 

For the record, this isn't a disappointment to me. Seeing him chosen at all ahead of better players (well, one, in Pekhart) around October/November time was a disappointment.

[Wes Tender]

He scored quite a few goals for a team that created little ,and he was playing as a lone striker for much of the time before dropping back. MLT was a lazy looking player but when it mattered he would light up and then.. DMG's demeanour I agree looks lazy but he wasn't and will be a decent player. Im saddened by his departure but like you knew this and manuuy other disappointments would come our way by going into administration

 

The main difference with comparing the apparent laziness of Le Tiss with that of McGoldrick, is that Le Tiss would drag his markers way out of position and then deliver a devastating pass 30/40 yards when the defence was absent. Or his markers would get sidetracked by his ambling around the pitch and follow the action elsewhere and Le Tiss would suddenly pounce and produce something out of nothing that would alter the entire course of a game. Not to mention his abilities from any dead ball situation or penalty taking. McGoldrick doesn't have the passing ability, deadball ability or the playmaking abilitity, so doesn't in reality bring much to the team at all apart from the odd goal or two and even then nothing above average for the division.

 

McGoldrick was distinctly average and I'd be very surprised if he even manages to measure up to those other strikers of ours brought up through the youth system and sold on, his contemporaries, Best and Blackstock

[Nineteen Canteen]

despite some goals, I have never been very impressed with mcgoldrick - his attitude stinks imo and he rarely put in a good shift.

 

good riddence.

 

Hopefully we got a fair price that can contribute/pay the wage bill.

 

I would agree with your assessment had it been based on his performances under JP but DMG managed by Wotte was a totally different player and based on that I am very sorry to see him leave.

[londonsaint1604]

I would agree with your assessment had it been based on his performances under JP but DMG managed by Wotte was a totally different player and based on that I am very sorry to see him leave.

 

I think he would have been useful in league 1 if he played in midfield or behind a striker, as he did towards the end of last season when he looked quite good.

[The9]

I wonder why you think Patterson has finishing ability. From seeing him play quite a bit for the ressies, the U 18's and a few times for the first team I would say quite the opposite. I agree he is a team player and a very professional attitude to the game but he is woefully slow and lacks creativity and skill on the ball. I don't see him being anything more than a lower league player flicking balls on to a nippy centre forward at best, in a few years time.

 

Just out of interest I would like to know what you have seen of Patterson other than his attitude that makes him a good goalscorer. (for the record I would have a 100% perfect attitude if I got to play in the red and white but doubt I would ever score for the team).

 

I would love to be proved wrong however because he seems like a good lad.

 

Now if you were suggesting you were looking forward to having Stern John back in place of DMG I would see your point.

 

I actually think the most likely thing that will happen is that we'll sign someone not long after a takeover (please), but I'm not sure we'll see any of last season's potential strikers playing for more than a few weeks if they even have contracts.

 

On the Paterson front I think he's a long way from the finished article, but he has good awareness and puts in the effort, plus he's got good control and passing - technically I think he's a reasonably decent target man who still needs some strength work. More of an Ormerod than a Phillips though - you're right about flick ons and I think chances from closing people down, with the odd helping out on the goal front.

 

You've seen more of him than I have by the sounds of it, but I've been quite impressed with his ability to find the net (after a bit of headlessness last pre-season). All I said was I'd rather have him than McGoldrick though, and I really don't rate his potential simply due to his attitude and reaction times.

[S-Clarke]

Shame - good player.

 

He did want to go though tbf.

 

Forest are building a decent team....

[Smirking_Saint]

Very disappointed that he's gone. Got a lot of talent and will improve massively.

 

Saints fans in general seem to really dislike him - therefore he must be a good player as the judgment of our fans is appalling.

 

+1

 

Cannot believe the stick the boy got.

 

He scored 15 goals with sh!te tactics a sh!te team, fans on his back and no creativity.

 

He also looked a good prospect in midfield.

 

Cannot believe we are loosing players so cheap also, plus who will we replace him with ?? Rediculous.

 

Also did Fry sanction the sale ?? Not good signs for pinnacle if so.

 

Oh and FWIW i think he will end up as a midfielder, and a very good one.

[buctootim]

+1

 

Cannot believe the stick the boy got.

 

He scored 15 goals with sh!te tactics a sh!te team, fans on his back and no creativity.

 

He also looked a good prospect in midfield.

 

Cannot believe we are loosing players so cheap also, plus who will we replace him with ?? Rediculous.

 

Also did Fry sanction the sale ?? Not good signs for pinnacle if so.

 

Oh and FWIW i think he will end up as a midfielder, and a very good one.

 

 

Agree. He proabably had to go to give the club another 4 weeks to find a buyer - but he'll be a loss.

[VectisSaint]

I think you are correct, they will hold the incoming fee and pay any of our outstanding football debts from it, including any sell on fee due to Notts County.

It was definitely my understanding that no funds actually get exchanged in the present situation, the Football League (not the FA) hold on to the funds to ensure that any footballing debts are paid, including wages of players if they don't get paid. I think the Notts County thing might be a red herring, since it was only a relatively small amount we owed them and thats already been covered by the sale of Dyer. I suspect also that the £1m fee would not be paid in a single lump sum anyway. So for those of you that think this sorts out our wages, I suggest you may want to think again.

[Rebel]

blimey have Forest actually seen him play - apart from for the youth team

 

yeah he's big and strong and has a good touch - but no pace, a bit of an ego/attititude problem and a little bit lazy and just too slow in thought, mind and body for the CCC or higher

[Chez]

I wonder why you think Patterson has finishing ability. From seeing him play quite a bit for the ressies, the U 18's and a few times for the first team I would say quite the opposite. I agree he is a team player and a very professional attitude to the game but he is woefully slow and lacks creativity and skill on the ball. I don't see him being anything more than a lower league player flicking balls on to a nippy centre forward at best, in a few years time.

 

Just out of interest I would like to know what you have seen of Patterson other than his attitude that makes him a good goalscorer. (for the record I would have a 100% perfect attitude if I got to play in the red and white but doubt I would ever score for the team).

 

I would love to be proved wrong however because he seems like a good lad.

 

Now if you were suggesting you were looking forward to having Stern John back in place of DMG I would see your point.

 

strong, good in the air, decent first touch and excellent work rate. That will do for me, and if we can get the right pacey striker to play alongside him then we will do fine.

[Chez]

blimey have Forest actually seen him play - apart from for the youth team

 

yeah he's big and strong and has a good touch - but no pace, a bit of an ego/attititude problem and a little bit lazy and just too slow in thought, mind and body for the CCC or higher

 

David Pleat was at SMS on a regular basis towards the end of the season

[sidthesquid]

Strange as it may seem I see this as a positive.

 

I mean if we are to be wound up on Friday as Fry has intimated, then by waiting a week Forest could have got him on a free....??

 

Perhaps Fry remains confident of concluding a deal.

 

Funny timing, nonetheless. If someone is buying us tomorrow, or even this week, you'd have thought the deal would hang on until the new owners had his say

[Greenridge]

Funny timing, nonetheless. If someone is buying us tomorrow, or even this week, you'd have thought the deal would hang on until the new owners had his say

 

Probably as much to do with the player as the club itself. Afterall he proved last year that he's clearly too good for League 1 and in reality the CCC as well. Ah, hold on a minute.....

[Bailey]

Often criticised on here but I have no doubt he would have scored plenty in League One. I think he'll prove a lot of doubters wrong on here, and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a good season for Forest. It's not the end of the world, and £1m+ is a decent fee, but ideally I would have kept him. Sadly, in our current position, that was impossible.

[Hopkins]

Once again people claiming he has an attitude problem. Despite not one bit of proof or anyone ever meeting him.

 

Having met the lad, he's been committed to Southampton just as much as anyone this season. His work rate was not in question when asked to playing off Euell, only when playing upfront on his own. Probably the one position you wouldn't want someone out of position because he's chased down a nothing ball. Eg Brett Ormerod.

 

And he scored and looked like scoring more than anyone in our whole team last season.

 

Hope he goes onto to score shed loads for Forest as much as I hate them and I think he will.

[saint_stevo]

Kelvin follows, not to Forest but West Ham

[callysaint76]

The only man that looked like saving us last season. Cheers for a few flashes of brilliance (preston away, palace home)

He will be a decent Championship player and could even make the prem.

[Eastcowzer]

He scored goals in a difficult season whilst still learning his trade fighting relegation.

 

I suspect someone else will get the benefit of his realised potential - we'll miss him in my opinion!

 

I wish him well...he would have tormented L1 defences.

 

Well he certainly tormented Saints fans.

Perhaps the pizzas are better in Nottingham.

[brightspark]

I'm sure McGoldrick will turn in to a very good striker, scoring many goals next season for Forest. A blow in my opinion, he would have been very useful. We need to sign some strikers now if we want to compete (considering Rasiak and Saganowski are bound to leave... surely)

[The9]

Once again people claiming he has an attitude problem. Despite not one bit of proof or anyone ever meeting him.

 

Having met the lad, he's been committed to Southampton just as much as anyone this season. His work rate was not in question when asked to playing off Euell, only when playing upfront on his own. .

 

No evidence at all, other than what you've said yourself... :confused:

[John]

I'd say its the exact opposite, to be honest. If we had some serious investment coming in our players may actually be tempted to stay. In the obviousl absence of such, you can't blame any one of the players wanting to get away from the shambles we've become.

 

Totally agree. Players will want away and Aviva want their money. This is classic fire-sale before winding us up. My best guess is Aviva are getting hacked off with two-bit numpties bidding for our club (MLT not included) and want every penny they can get from our remaining assets i.e the players (there isn't anything else). If Pinnacle don't come up with the goods SFC will be dead by the end of the week. Remember people...Fry represents the CREDITORS...nobody else...he couldn't give a flying f**k if we get liquidated or not.

[Lets B Avenue]

Forest have also signed Adebola from Brizzle ****ty. Did Blackstock sign after his end of season loan? If so, Mr Arrogance might be doing his strut up and down Championship touchlines this season. IMHO.

[labibs]

So DMG is gone, Rasiak and Saga won't fancy league 1 and will probably loaned out to cover their wages and BWP and Euell are out of contract.

 

Am I right in thinking that the only strikers we actually have at the club under contract are Paterson and White? What happens if they both get injured? Holmes up top on his own?