Arizona Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Ah, that's disappointing. It would have been interesting to see if he could have 'done a Fryatt' in L1. Seven figure sum confirmed though, that's pretty decent money. I just hope we get a decent manager who will invest it wisely, assuming we put it back into the squad as and when takeovers/missing wages are sorted. All the best DMG if you happen to read this. Hopefully he can do the Saints accademy proud, like Theo, Bale, Beatts and Bridge.
Colinjb Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 All the best DMG if you happen to read this. Hopefully he can do the Saints accademy proud, like Theo, Bale, Beatts and Bridge. Ah the Saints academy, providing good if not excellent players for every club apart from it's own.
Mr X Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 hope this means theres a chance Surman is staying I doubt it though
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 ah, that's disappointing. It would have been interesting to see if he could have 'done a fryatt' in l1. seven figure sum confirmed though, that's pretty decent money. £7 ? £10,000.00 ?
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Thanks Mr Lynam Again, there were rumours McGoldrick was leaving in May, before Pinnacle were even known. Also, Lynham might be a decent judge of a footballer...
South City Si Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Shame, but if it means the club has a bit money while it's being sorted out then good. Wanted to go back ages ago, not suprising and prob would have happened if we had stayed up.
Crab Lungs Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 David McGoldrick is a good player, good luck to him.
spank_182 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Disappointing that another promising player has departed in the last few years. Problem was that he shouldn't have had to play every game this year. Plus, probably should have learnt how to take a penalty or get a clean strike on a ball seeing as he's a striker. No doubt he's got the skills, but havent Forest already got 2 or 3 better strikers?! Cant see him playing every minute next season, but no doubt will bag a couple of goals (probably against Saints in the cup or something).
Junior Mullet Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Very True. Why can't they disclose the fee ? Because its only £1m but it sounds better if Saints present it to the fans as "a seven figure sum" as it keeps us guessing. There will no doubt be add ons such as payments after appearances and goals and hopefully a decent sell-on clause. The sum of these clauses may add up to £1m although the initial sum payable I would expect to be somewhere in the region of £500k given our predicament.
Arizona Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 £7 ? £10,000.00 ? Don't be stupid, it means at least one million. Yen. Thanks Mr Lynam Well, since we're in the process of blaming/thanking people who, at the time of writing have absolutely no control over finances and the running of the club... Thanks Mr T
sandwichsaint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Struggled with the loan striker role first half of the season but looked potentially half-decent when playing attacking-mid. Got a load of stick from me first half of the season but he won me over; cheer him on his way if you want to (ditto Surman) but don't expect like-for-like replacements! Reckon DMG will have a really good season at Forest.
solentstars Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 sad news another promising player leaves the club, who did well in his first full season and i would have expected him to shine this season.
Junior Mullet Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 I'd rather have Paterson than McGoldrick, and I didn't think I'd be saying that before the season a year ago. Sorry mate, but I don't think you're a very good judge of a player then. Patterson is good in the air but other than that has very little about him. His scoring record is always going to be a lot less than DMGs. Further, he can't be utilised on the right wing or attacking central midfield like DMG - he's just nowhere near as versatile.
St_Tel49 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 despite some goals, I have never been very impressed with mcgoldrick - his attitude stinks imo and he rarely put in a good shift. good riddence. Hopefully we got a fair price that can contribute/pay the wage bill. Yep - the first person to sell should be our leading goal scorer. Cn't blame him for going. Insufficiently appreciated here.
St_Tel49 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Again, there were rumours McGoldrick was leaving in May, before Pinnacle were even known. Also, Lynham might be a decent judge of a footballer... Does that mean that you reckon you are too?
Arizona Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Ah the Saints academy, providing good if not excellent players for every club apart from it's own. We, at time of writing, still have Surman, Lallana, Gillett and James, who were regulars last season. Also the £1m should keep us afloat for another month or so. We certainly wouldn't have got £1m for any of the players in our squad who didn't come through the accademy.
forever a red and white Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 he'll prove a lot of doubters on here wrong. He scored 12 goals, in a **** team, and had to play in three different positions at least. he is young and learninig and will be very good at CCC level at least.
Wes Tender Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good God, he was EVER-PRESENT last season !?!?!?! No wonder we got relegated. My overall opinion is "meh", as if he does for them what he did for us he won't score many for them next season before he gets dropped. I can't imagine what Davies thinks he's getting, though he is the kind of manager that might give him the kick up the ar5e he so desperately needs. I agree with this. When he was with us, he certainly wasn't the finished article by a long way. He needed half a dozen attempts to score and often missed when it would have been easier to score. He wasn't a good penalty taker either. He mostly flattered to deceive and seemed to have a belief in himself that was not commensurate to his abilities, possibly gained from being able to score against youth team defenders. But as you say, Davies is exactly the no nonsense, no bullsh*t, straight talking manager to crush any primadonna illusions that McGoldrick has about himself and only give him praise when he has become a player prepared to graft sufficiently to prove himself worthy of a place in his first team.
saint_stevo Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Again, there were rumours McGoldrick was leaving in May, before Pinnacle were even known. Also, Lynham might be a decent judge of a footballer... If the protracted take over had gone ahead we may have been in a better position to either- a)- Keep him (unlikely as he prob wanted out) b)- Barter, and get a better price, a poor club is a weak club I would not be surprised to see him get 15+ goals next season
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 We will need to buy 3 strikers now if Rasiak ,Saga,BWP all leave aswell as expected.i would not want to rely on Patterson and White alone.What is the position with Stern John.Could offer him a vastly reduced contract if he hasn't got another club lined up ? Sorry to see DMg go as I thought he would score 20-30 goals in Div 1
This Charming Man Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good riddance, he's was lazy and was a truly terrible finisher.
red&white56 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 I'm personally disappointed that he's gone - he offered us a sense of the future that Euell, Raza, Saga don't. Now we have to blood a new forwards for the future with no certainty of any experienced strikers being there to help bring them on - I bet Milwall are licking their lips at the thought of getting first crack at us, with a weakened front line .............................
saint_stevo Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 would love to see Cureton here..... not likely though
Saints foreva Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good Luck. Had he found his shooting boots earlier in the season.. We may have never got relegated.
Arizona Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 We will need to buy 3 strikers now if Rasiak ,Saga,BWP all leave aswell as expected.i would not want to rely on Patterson and White alone.What is the position with Stern John.Could offer him a vastly reduced contract if he hasn't got another club lined up ? Sorry to see DMg go as I thought he would score 20-30 goals in Div 1 If Rasiak, Saga and Lallana stayed, there's three decent and varied strikers right there. To complete the line-up you'd need a big lump IMO.Lallana is not a winger, but I think would be an excellent striker dropping deeper in a 4-4-2 formation, feeding of Rasiak or Lump. Ditto Saga. The brilliant* thing about DMG leaving of course is that now we can make as many outrageous claims as we want about how many goals he would have scored in League 1 and never be proved wrong. Personally I'd have said 20 was the upper limit of what he was capable of. *This word may contain traces of sarcasm.
saint_stevo Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good Luck. Had he found his shooting boots earlier in the season.. We may have never got relegated. Not so sure DMG is to blame......
Papa Shango Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good riddance to sh*t players. Overrated big time charlie, it's a good deal for us. Hope Surman is next out.
thornhill_saints Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 IMO he was a lazy TW*T anyway and always will be, you could see he didnt want to play for us, throwing his tantrums all the time. FAT useless TW*T
Sheff Saint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 IMO he was a lazy TW*T anyway and always will be, you could see he didnt want to play for us, throwing his tantrums all the time. FAT useless TW*T Great post!
ottery st mary Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Not so sure DMG is to blame...... I blame the shooting coach...sum big cheese he was:rolleyes:
Saints foreva Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 I doubt this means the wages get paid though. Don't The Football League keep the money until we get a takeover? And Notts County get 200k.
dronskisaint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 He scored goals in a difficult season whilst still learning his trade fighting relegation. I suspect someone else will get the benefit of his realised potential - we'll miss him in my opinion! I wish him well...he would have tormented L1 defences.
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 June, 2009 Author Posted 29 June, 2009 He scored goals in a difficult season whilst still learning his trade fighting relegation. I suspect someone else will get the benefit of his realised potential - we'll miss him in my opinion! I wish him well...he would have tormented L1 defences. +1.
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 (edited) Does that mean that you reckon you are too? Surely everyone thinks their opinion is correct, or it wouldn't be their opinion ? As it happens, yes, and not afraid to state it either. Now where's the archive of my glowing comments on Kenwyne in pre-season 2005/6 (twinned with a "top goalscorer" bet that proved to be a couple of seasons too early), and the time on Saints Forever where I said I thought Dyer might have more success than Walcott...? Edited 29 June, 2009 by The9
Papa Shango Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Very disappointed that he's gone. Got a lot of talent and will improve massively. Saints fans in general seem to really dislike him - therefore he must be a good player as the judgment of our fans is appalling. Says the person who said Kenwyne Jones will be better than Drogba and Torres.
Simon_UK Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Whoever wrote tthis obviously dosent know thier nottingham geography, since when has County been "across the city" from forest? the 2 grounds are practically next door
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Sorry mate, but I don't think you're a very good judge of a player then. Patterson is good in the air but other than that has very little about him. His scoring record is always going to be a lot less than DMGs. Further, he can't be utilised on the right wing or attacking central midfield like DMG - he's just nowhere near as versatile. I don't remember Gary Lineker being "versatile" either, but he was bloody good at what he was supposed to do. At that kind of level attitude and application has a lot to do with it - James Beattie was a useless carthorse until Strachan got him fit, then he miraculously became a competent striker for a while, before reverting. I just don't think McGoldrick has an attitude that will bring him any success, whilst Paterson is a worker and has finishing ability, although he too has a long way to go. Different types of player, but I thought McGoldrick was little short of appalling as a central striker, rarely in the right place at the right time when the ball came into the box, and often on the half way line picking his nails. He probably wouldn't have got into any other team in that division half as often as he did ours last season, including Charlton.
OldNick Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good God, he was EVER-PRESENT last season !?!?!?! No wonder we got relegated. My overall opinion is "meh", as if he does for them what he did for us he won't score many for them next season before he gets dropped. I can't imagine what Davies thinks he's getting, though he is the kind of manager that might give him the kick up the ar5e he so desperately needs. i am amazed that you have that opinion of him!!!!!
BotleySaint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 He wasted many many oppertunities last season including the penalty which might have given us a stronger shout of staying up and taking the -10 last year. Still, i think he'd have been decent in league 1.
OldNick Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good luck DMG. You will prove a lot of people wrong.
Wes Tender Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Good luck DMG. You will prove a lot of people wrong. Mainly those who thought that you were any good.
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 (edited) i am amazed that you have that opinion of him!!!!! As an unfit striker myself I can at least say I know exactly what I am SUPPOSED to be doing, and in moving roughly the same amount as I do in a Sunday League match he doesn't even have the excuse of being a lazy, fat, old (in football terms) get either. Half of our problems last season were due to a lack of penetrating passes. Much of the fault for that lay with our midfield, but given that Lallana and Schneiderlin have shown flashes of creativity, some of that blame fell to the strikers for not making runs to create space, and McGoldrick is one of the laziest players off the ball I've ever seen. The season before last at St Mary's he didn't even bother running into 30 yards of space with the centre backs 20 yards apart in order to get clean through so Stern John could play him in from half way when he won the ball - that's just an unforgivable lack of vision and effort, and nothing he did last season made me think his "style" had changed any. Like I said, I think Billy Davies is the kind of manager he won't get away with that for, and if he undergoes a complete change of attitude he might have some success, as he's still young enough to be re-educated and he's got the physical attributes - but if he continues as he did last season he's got no chance and won't get a start for them after September. Edited 29 June, 2009 by The9 typo-mania
aintforever Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 He will be a loss, his record wasn't bad for a youngster. Forest have a bargain, I hope there was a sell on clause.
OldNick Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 (edited) Mainly those who thought that you were any good. it is not about my standard Wes, but I have a good record is backing the right players, If you care Ill make a list for you. Funnily enough Shearer was the one I thought would never be fantastic ad he missed loads of one on ones etc...sound familiar. not that DMG will become that good. Im very happy to keep by my assessment though. Edited 29 June, 2009 by OldNick
The9 Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Says the person who said Kenwyne Jones will be better than Drogba and Torres. He was blinded by the awesome "Kenwyne Jones - he's not from Canada" song we thought up at Swindon a few years back. Hell, I rated KEN~!!! pretty highly, but I wasn't going that far with it !
OldNick Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 As an unfit striker myself I can at least say I know exactly what I am SUPPOSED to be doing, and in moving roughly the same amount as I do in a Sunday League match he doesn't even have the excuse of being a lazy, fat, old (in football terms) get either. Half of our problems last season were due to a lack of penetrating passes. Much of the fault for that lay with our midfield, but given Lallana and Schneiderlin have show flashes of creativity, some of that blame fell to the strikers for not making runs to create space, and McGoldrick is one of the laziest players off the ball I've ever seen. The season before last at St Mary's he didn't even bother running into 30 yards of space with the centre backs 20 yards apart in order to get clean through so Stern John could play him in from half way when he won the ball - that's just an unforgivable lack of vision and effort, and nothing he did last season made me think his "style" had changed any. Like I said, I think Billy Davies is the kind of manager he won't get away with that for, and if he undergoes a complete change of attitude he might have some success, as he's still young enough to be re-educated and he's got the physical attributes - but if he continues as he did last season he's got no chance and won't get a start for them after September. He scored quite a few goals for a team that created little ,and he was playing as a lone striker for much of the time before dropping back. MLT was a lazy looking player but when it mattered he would light up and then.. DMG's demeanour I agree looks lazy but he wasn't and will be a decent player. Im saddened by his departure but like you knew this and manuuy other disappointments would come our way by going into administration
Foxstone Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Strange as it may seem I see this as a positive. I mean if we are to be wound up on Friday as Fry has intimated, then by waiting a week Forest could have got him on a free....?? Perhaps Fry remains confident of concluding a deal.
Polaroid Saint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 I'm in the "DMcG alright actually" camp and sad to see him go. More for what it suggests to me about the clubs current plight really - although if we get taken over tomorrow, we should buy him back, he'd be perfect in league one...
Polaroid Saint Posted 29 June, 2009 Posted 29 June, 2009 Strange as it may seem I see this as a positive. I mean if we are to be wound up on Friday as Fry has intimated, then by waiting a week Forest could have got him on a free....?? Perhaps Fry remains confident of concluding a deal. or the complete opposite. I dunno... ...At the moment I'm not even a glass half empty person - someone's stolen the bl00dy glass!
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