Ryan Smith/Lee Molyneux

[ladysaint]

Just received this from a friend in Holland.

Just read that NAC Breda have not offered a contract to Ryan Smith. But they now have another Saints player called Lee Molyneux on trial until next Saturday. The report says he came through the youth ranks at Everton but signed for Saints last year. However he never really made it to the 1st team with only 4 appearances last season.

[Dog]

Ryan Smith will be the next Overmars.

[Wes Tender]

Just received this from a friend in Holland.

Just read that NAC Breda have not offered a contract to Ryan Smith. But they now have another Saints player called Lee Molyneux on trial until next Saturday. The report says he came through the youth ranks at Everton but signed for Saints last year. However he never really made it to the 1st team with only 4 appearances last season.

 

They're welcome to either or both of them, as they are both useless. Neither were able to perform well under two Dutch managers, so why would they do any better under another Dutch manager? Didn't they hear that Ryan Smith was a World Class player, according to Wotte?

[saints_is_the_south]

Both players could probably do a job in League 1 tbh, maybe not as starters but certainly back up.

[Pancake]

Echos what Martini said earlier today:

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=349749&postcount=50

[The9]

Can't say I'll miss Molyneux much, as for Smith, I'm just glad we didn't have him on a permanent deal. God, to think he was one of the players at the forefront of Wenger's first generation of League Cup urchins...

[Torres]

They're welcome to either or both of them, as they are both useless. Neither were able to perform well under two Dutch managers, so why would they do any better under another Dutch manager?

 

Is the nationality of the manager important?

[The9]

Is the nationality of the manager important?

 

Other than being able to understand him you'd think not... unless you were particularly suggestible and came on here a lot.

[Wes Tender]

Is the nationality of the manager important?

 

Sometimes. It equally applies to players of different nationalities playing in leagues foreign to them. Factors such as the understanding of how the game is played in that country and communication skills come into the equation. There are sufficiently numerous examples of managers from one country not being successful at another to add weight to the point, the same with players.

[stthrobber]

Ryan Smith will be the next Overmars.

 

Think you're setting the bar a bit high there, Overmars no, Overseas, possibly:p

[Chez]

Just received this from a friend in Holland.

Just read that NAC Breda have not offered a contract to Ryan Smith. But they now have another Saints player called Lee Molyneux on trial until next Saturday. The report says he came through the youth ranks at Everton but signed for Saints last year. However he never really made it to the 1st team with only 4 appearances last season.

 

interesting that we would allow Molyneux to go out on a trial despite him being under contract. I still don't know why he was signed when Mills looked more than capable and quite clearly would improve with more games under his belt.

 

Has Mills signed a new deal yet?

[Torres]

There are sufficiently numerous examples of managers from one country not being successful at another to add weight to the point, the same with players.

 

There are? Who has not been successful under a certain manager purely because of that manager's nationality? :confused:

[saint1977]

interesting that we would allow Molyneux to go out on a trial despite him being under contract. I still don't know why he was signed when Mills looked more than capable and quite clearly would improve with more games under his belt.

 

Has Mills signed a new deal yet?

 

That puzzled me Chez, Mills looked very good for one so young last season, no accident that we loan him to S****horpe and they go up. I don't know if he has signed a new deal but hope he does. What was going through JP's/Wotte's/Lowe's head at the time I will never be able to fathom.

[Chez]

That puzzled me Chez, Mills looked very good for one so young last season, no accident that we loan him to S****horpe and they go up. I don't know if he has signed a new deal but hope he does. What was going through JP's/Wotte's/Lowe's head at the time I will never be able to fathom.

 

the drop down in division is goign to help him shine next season and perhaps the likes of Lancashire can cope at that level as well. I remember Mills and Monk both having to drop down a division and they have both become decent players and more than coped when they moved back up a level.

 

James Lancashire Thomas Mills might do OK next season.

[The9]

That puzzled me Chez, Mills looked very good for one so young last season, no accident that we loan him to S****horpe and they go up. I don't know if he has signed a new deal but hope he does. What was going through JP's/Wotte's/Lowe's head at the time I will never be able to fathom.

 

I guess the thinking was that Mills looked a little lightweight in a team that was already overloaded with kids and Skacel (and Surman relatively speaking) gave us a little more experience. I think could have done a decent job for us given a bit more of a chance and with a few more experienced heads around, he was unlucky that we had options in his position, especially compared to the right back slot.

[SFC Forever]

Won't be long now till we know who we want to keep and who will be going. Still hope we get some muscle in to boost the squad. I also hope we can keep Mills, Lancashire and Gillett. DMG and Surman look like going soon. Lallana might be allowed to go as well. Spiderman could be good for us if he can toughen up some.

[explorer saint]

Be delighted to get rid of both thought Molyneux was one of the worst ever players to grace the left back spot.

[Wes Tender]

There are? Who has not been successful under a certain manager purely because of that manager's nationality? :confused:

Perhaps I phrased that badly. There are numerous examples of managers who have been successful in their own countries, but who have not achieved the same level of success in other countries. The same applies to players who have excelled in one country, but have not shone when playing in another country.

[The9]

Be delighted to get rid of both thought Molyneux was one of the worst ever players to grace the left back spot.

 

O'Halloran was worse, surely ? At least Molyneux looked like he might be able to attack.

[This Charming Man]

I'd be over the moon if we were to get rid of Ryan Smith - one of the worst players I've ever seen.

[krissyboy31]

I'd be over the moon if we were to get rid of Ryan Smith - one of the worst players I've ever seen.

 

As of midnight tomorrow, he is no longer a Saints player whether he signs elsewhere, or not.

[DrunkenSaint]

A good everton friend of mine says that Molyneux is very good and that he must of had a few bad games for us with all this hate. He was very upbeat about him when he was at everton but with the likes of Baines and Lescot he couldnt get in the side, i think give this lad a chance and he'll be good.

[Leslie Charteris]

So the firesale begins?

[Sold To The Man @ The Bar]

Ryan Smith will be the next Overmars.

 

Will he F**K !!