chrisobee Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Well for sure ****ney rhyming slang can catch people out. I think people often call someone a "berk" without realising it derives from the ****ney rhyming slang expression Berkshire Hunt, you can work the rest out for yourselves !! Or maybe they do realise! The lesson these days I guess is engage brain, think and say/post nothing in this wonderful country of ours, the land of ridiculously enforced political correctness Oh, and of course the filters on here which just caught me out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) Who said football fans are fickle ? :-) I was honestly waiting for the punchline at the end. Edited 27 June, 2009 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lynam Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 In all sincerity, I am very happy that it appears the the Pinnacle bid will go through following their acceptance of the Football League's position. I have had a number, a large number, of instances of being wrong in my life, largely due to the large size of my mouth and the small size of my brain, but, given my deep love for Southampton Football Club, my passion, on this occasion, swamped my judgement. That judgement seems to have been wrong and Mr. Fialka and his North London friends appear to have access to the £14M that will save our club, together with an investment plan that will help put the club back in the Premiership. I apologise, unreservedly to Mr. Lynam and Mr. Fialka for the abuse that I have posted and hope that by supporting the club when they take over, I will be able to make amends. Finally, I was made aware that I called Mr. Fialka a "dustbin lid". This deeply upset one of our posters who is married to a black lady and has mixed race children. He believes that that comment makes me the worst type of racist, one that didn't know he was one. I am very sorry to him and to Mr. Fialka if they found the term offensive and racist. Please forgive me in the future for any words I use that also rhyme with offensive terms. I hope that in the spirit of reconciliation, all those that thought Mr. Fialka and Mr. Lynam were "potless" join me in apologising.... Hello John Your web/forum post has been pointed out to me and I feel compelled to reply. Firstly, I think you deserve praise for the apology for whatever it is you have been saying about myself, colleagues, clients and advisers. Forgive me, but I don't have the time to watch or contribute to the forum much. You, and your friends, will now know that we have made a decision, after seeking extensive legal opinion about the "10 point issue". It has never trully been about 10 points itself, more so the potential legal ramifications, according to our advice, in agreeing to various other conditions set out in an 8/9 page document drafted along the lines of the Football Leagues rules. I won't say any more on the subject as it's now pointless. I will however say one thing, which will perhaps win me no friends. I stand 100% behind my own stance, and that of those who I represent to date about this issue - which has perhaps contributed to our delay. I know only too well how desperate that everyone is for this to be concluded - and trust me, I share that desire. I do not however agree with making rash decisions, and despite the difficulties it has presented, we have had to keep a level head and let things pan out. The impact on staff to me has been the worst part of this to bear, and not the legal nonsense which will be sorted in the end. Ultimately, anyone can now trump us and steal this from under our feet. We don't believe that the vast majority of fans want that, and we firmly believe that we can really be what you all want as a new owner. But John, I am asking you man to man, in front of your friends, if you really feel the need to personally insult me or my colleagues, please have the decency to do it to my face (or contact me directly). That's the end of that as far as I am concerned, and come what may, I look forward to having a beer with you, and the rest of the fans at St Marys, hopefully to celebrate our first win (and hopefully with us in charge). Best wishes Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) Tony, are you able to reassure fans about who the money men are? Initially, you said that it was one individual worth several hundred million. Do Pinnacle genuinely have this sort of financial power behind them? I'm not trying to give you stick, it's a genuine question and if you're able to answer, it would put a lot of fan's concerns to rest. Edited 27 June, 2009 by Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) I am still sceptical. But if it all goes through and all is well then i will apologise to all for ever doubting the consortiums credentials. Also am i the only one who felt GM's apology lacked a certain sentiment? Edited 27 June, 2009 by saint_stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I have to say this contact between the fans and Tony Lynham is a good thing but this should teach us all a lesson that we shouldn't throw accusations that aren't true around. I'm very happy that Guided Missile has apologised, we all get a bit too heated on here when in reality we should be united for the love of the club. Lets hope when the takeover is complete it will be football that we'll argue about not board ownership, or other such nonsense, because that is what we're all here for to talk about football. I miss discussing whether the 4-4-2 is better than the 4-5-1 (which it clearly is!) or whether Lloyd James is infact a good right back, or what crazy formation our Dutch manager might play next. Or if Kelvin Davies is the best keeper in the lower leagues. Fingers crossed this is all sorted soon, and great post by Tony Lynham, top notch to not get angry and accept the apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I have to say this contact between the fans and Tony Lynham is a good thing. It's not such a good thing because it'll backfire eventually. If and when the takeover goes through i'd strongly advise Tony doesn't post on here for his own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 strangely, i agree with the mole on that one. If and when the deal is done, Tony should not continue to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If and when the deal is done, Tony should not continue to post. but lets hope the OS is far more effective in communication than it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I must admit, I reckon GM's apology is a little tongue in cheek. Can't believe Tony is continuing to post on here. Please just complete the deal, or don't. Posting on fans forums, pre-deal, is not typical corporate behaviour and cheapens you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Get a room lads,this is a football forum not the Lib dem bulletin board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Pedro Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I must admit, I reckon GM's apology is a little tongue in cheek. Can't believe Tony is continuing to post on here. Please just complete the deal, or don't. Posting on fans forums, pre-deal, is not typical corporate behaviour and cheapens you. Maybe,but I think it's quite a good way of getting his side of the story into the 'public domain' quickly and in response to unfolding events or rumours without media spin corrupting it for their own ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It's late at night and I fully admit to cutting and pasting this from the Internet font of all knowledge Wikipedia but can someone finally explain to me why the feck it is seen as a REALLY BAD thing to be liberal in your views? Modern liberal thought originated in and influenced the politics of The Netherlands, the United Kingdom and France. The first modern liberal state was the United States of America founded on the principle that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." The alternative to the above to me appears to be some form of facism or something the many fundamentalist groups around the world are trying the foist upon us - do as I say and it'll be really good for you if you don't I'll kill you....human beings weird? You betcha. As for the Saints related matters - I'll take GMS apology at it's face value, although I do wonder if someone contacted him and said if you don't you'll going to be in a whole world of pain - someone in a suit with an expensive job - and I still will not get excited until it is written in ink and publised on the OS as a fact. Also £14m is a fortune to most of us but I think it's about £10 in the Football League even in League One unless that is just for playing staff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Personally, as I have stated before, I welcome TL's posts on here. It is good stakeholder communications. But TL must be careful to ensure that what he does post does not blow up in his face. So he must be sure of his facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I don't get it. Isn't the time for humble pie when the deal is done? Otherwise one is liable to discover egg on one's face rather than pie crumbs. Still, I hope SOMEONE buys the club soonish. And would it really be such a bad idea for the other moneybags behind the rival bids - if there are still two - to say who they are? The secrecy in all this is a bit odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holbury Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I really want to believe it will happen, but unfortunately, once again I am not convinced that all this is sorted with the FL. Not once have we heard "We and the FL are now in a position to sign the contracts and have agreed on a compromise" Until I hear this from the FL themselves, I won't hold my breath. Too much pain and disappointment to be taken in again.:smt011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Anyone notice the strategic 'maybe' in MLT's wordings? "They're denying us the right of appeal, which we feel is not fair. But if it's the only way to move things forward, then we are prepared to maybe take the 10 points on the chin and move on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I don't get it. Isn't the time for humble pie when the deal is done? He's only going through with this attention seeking charade so that if the Pinnacle bid fails he can demand that those who supported the bid apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 When im wrong i promptly admitted it ...Well done it takes balls to come on here and apoligise i take my hat off to you .. If it helps you at all i have a fair amount of Jewish friends who are quite liberal with their racist remarks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Is is just me........no I won't go there, GM will understand!Gm's sense of humour is definitely an acquired taste;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 In fairness Michael Fialka has been overheard calling Guided Missile a 'Cambridge Punt' over the past few days; those 1930s north london semis have notoriously thin walls. In the wise words of Justin Fashanu "rascism has no place in football". Lancashire is the place for rascism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 ......... although I do wonder if someone contacted him and said if you don't you'll going to be in a whole world of pain - someone in a suit with an expensive job ..... Exactly what I thought, just something about the way it is worded. Perhaps the lawyers asked the echo where they got their info from and they said well GM said it on SaintsWeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It's not over till it's over and the Swiss could still win the day given that Pinnacle no longer have exclusivity. In that event all the time and money that Pinnacle have spent on the bid will have been lost and all over the relatvely trivial issue of the -10 point penalty which should be easily overcome if the promised financial backing actually exists. It still makes no sense to me business-wise I'm afraid as any concerns should have been adressed with the FL weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Fully expect another 'last minute unforeseen' hitch on Monday or Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It's late at night and I fully admit to cutting and pasting this from the Internet font of all knowledge Wikipedia but can someone finally explain to me why the feck it is seen as a REALLY BAD thing to be liberal in your views? Modern liberal thought originated in and influenced the politics of The Netherlands, the United Kingdom and France. The first modern liberal state was the United States of America founded on the principle that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." The alternative to the above to me appears to be some form of facism or something the many fundamentalist groups around the world are trying the foist upon us - do as I say and it'll be really good for you if you don't I'll kill you....human beings weird? You betcha. As for the Saints related matters - I'll take GMS apology at it's face value, although I do wonder if someone contacted him and said if you don't you'll going to be in a whole world of pain - someone in a suit with an expensive job - and I still will not get excited until it is written in ink and publised on the OS as a fact. Also £14m is a fortune to most of us but I think it's about £10 in the Football League even in League One unless that is just for playing staff..... No I can't David Strover but I think I the issue for people comes from separating liberalism/libertarianism and the third party in the UK - "the liberals". I think for many "liberal" means a wasted vote, a cop-out and sitting on the fence. Hence the negative spin. Not sure how the PC banner got ties to the liberal fence though. I think Billy Bragg's definition of being a "liberal with a small ell" summed up the distinction best for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Fully expect another 'last minute unforeseen' hitch on Monday or Tuesday I fully expect them to get 'pipped at the post' by another group and be 'terribly upset' about it 'but the most important thing is that the club has been saved' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I fully expect them to get 'pipped at the post' by another group and be 'terribly upset' about it 'but the most important thing is that the club has been saved' With any luck. If it is a given that we are taken over, in order of who i want it to be- 1. The Swiss 2. Pinnacle 3. MJ + SG etc... And no, i know nothing about who the swiss bid involves, as professional deals should be conducted IMO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 With any luck. If it is a given that we are taken over, in order of who i want it to be- 1. The Swiss 2. Pinnacle 3. MJ + SG etc... And no, i know nothing about who the swiss bid involves, as professional deals should be conducted IMO..... Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I fully expect them to get 'pipped at the post' by another group and be 'terribly upset' about it 'but the most important thing is that the club has been saved' So do I. Expect the post from TL on wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I fully expect them to get 'pipped at the post' by another group and be 'terribly upset' about it 'but the most important thing is that the club has been saved' Yes a cynical view would also say that when Tony Lynam wrote: Ultimately, anyone can now trump us and steal this from under our feet He was setting Pinnacle up for the heroic but ultimately doomed ending you suggest above. And now that he has paved the way to not appealing the -10 points, presumably history will remember them fondly and MLT's reputation will not be unduly damaged. A cynic certainly would think that way. I'll know for sure if I'm a cynic some time late on Tuesday evening I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Agreed Agreed +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Well I never! Adult behaviour breaking out on this board and I can do no more than to welcome it. Apologies can be difficult and it takes guts to stand up there in the way GM has. I applaud him for it. An apology also asks for a response and I think I've seen a suitable one here. This club needs to come together, shake off the 10 points penalty and fight back together. Hopefully we're now seeing the start of Saints revival. Together! (Even with Sundance, Nineteen or whoever you are). Unity provides strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Agreed Intentional or not TL's piece does read like a valedictory so I have to agree also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Is it just me, or is there something desperately attention seeking about GM's posts? +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Actually GM I enjoyed your posts on the basis that they were forthright, earthy and seemed to contain an element of irony and, to an extent, self-parody, that was quite charming. I think you should wait until Pinnacle actually do the business before prostrating yourself entirely because something here most definitely does not add up. In any event their handling of the FL situation and the needless stress that this placed on the staff leads one to suspect that our history of incompetence in the boardroom is far from over. seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo's a pansy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If Judaism is a religion, (which I firmly believe it is, since anyone can convert to it),then the usual PC cr*p about this remark being racist simply doesn't apply. Offensive; if you wish to see it as so, but not racist. By the way, I think it was hilarious that TL said to pursue this any further is 'pointess'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo's a pansy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Oops. That should of course be POINTLESS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Prepare yourself for some incoming from the Guardian reading lefties. The Guardian is a fine newspaper - you should try colouring it in sometime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculator Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Hello John Your web/forum post has been pointed out to me and I feel compelled to reply. Firstly, I think you deserve praise for the apology for whatever it is you have been saying about myself, colleagues, clients and advisers. Forgive me, but I don't have the time to watch or contribute to the forum much. You, and your friends, will now know that we have made a decision, after seeking extensive legal opinion about the "10 point issue". It has never trully been about 10 points itself, more so the potential legal ramifications, according to our advice, in agreeing to various other conditions set out in an 8/9 page document drafted along the lines of the Football Leagues rules. I won't say any more on the subject as it's now pointless. I will however say one thing, which will perhaps win me no friends. I stand 100% behind my own stance, and that of those who I represent to date about this issue - which has perhaps contributed to our delay. I know only too well how desperate that everyone is for this to be concluded - and trust me, I share that desire. I do not however agree with making rash decisions, and despite the difficulties it has presented, we have had to keep a level head and let things pan out. The impact on staff to me has been the worst part of this to bear, and not the legal nonsense which will be sorted in the end. Ultimately, anyone can now trump us and steal this from under our feet. We don't believe that the vast majority of fans want that, and we firmly believe that we can really be what you all want as a new owner. But John, I am asking you man to man, in front of your friends, if you really feel the need to personally insult me or my colleagues, please have the decency to do it to my face (or contact me directly). That's the end of that as far as I am concerned, and come what may, I look forward to having a beer with you, and the rest of the fans at St Marys, hopefully to celebrate our first win (and hopefully with us in charge). Best wishes Tony Regrettably I find this post from TL puzzling. Firstly, because I think GM's 'apology' is ironic and secondly that TL has taken it as genuine and felt the need to reply. Does TL respond to the 100's of comments about the takeover stories in the Echo as there has been a very anti-Pinnacle feeling building up on their website judging by the readers comments. TL is takiing the fan friendly communique's to whole new level far beyond what Leon Crouch even managed in an effort to gain popularity and I would prefer any senior person involved in the club's future at the present to conduct themselves through more accepted forms of media. Presumably, it will come out in the wash what was really behind the legal wranglings or whether it was a convienient smokescreen certainly Mark Fry didn't believe it was worthy of maintaining exclusivity for Pinnacle and rightly so and I would be interested to know exactly how much of the alleged 7 figure sum was spunked on fees that could have paid the staff last week. The fact TL stands 100% behind the stance he has taken leads me to conclude that I am 100% behind the Swiss or any other group who prefer to avoid fan's forums whilst concentrating on a complex business transaction. Has Fry become a registered user yet, is there a 'BT Saint' or 'It's Now Serious Saint'. Meanwhile, Game Set and Match to Guided Missile - right or wrong always a good read from a very clear and astute individual IMO, not Swiss is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Hello John Your web/forum post has been pointed out to me and I feel compelled to reply. Firstly, I think you deserve praise for the apology for whatever it is you have been saying about myself, colleagues, clients and advisers. Forgive me, but I don't have the time to watch or contribute to the forum much. You, and your friends, will now know that we have made a decision, after seeking extensive legal opinion about the "10 point issue". It has never trully been about 10 points itself, more so the potential legal ramifications, according to our advice, in agreeing to various other conditions set out in an 8/9 page document drafted along the lines of the Football Leagues rules. I won't say any more on the subject as it's now pointless. I will however say one thing, which will perhaps win me no friends. I stand 100% behind my own stance, and that of those who I represent to date about this issue - which has perhaps contributed to our delay. I know only too well how desperate that everyone is for this to be concluded - and trust me, I share that desire. I do not however agree with making rash decisions, and despite the difficulties it has presented, we have had to keep a level head and let things pan out. The impact on staff to me has been the worst part of this to bear, and not the legal nonsense which will be sorted in the end. Ultimately, anyone can now trump us and steal this from under our feet. We don't believe that the vast majority of fans want that, and we firmly believe that we can really be what you all want as a new owner. But John, I am asking you man to man, in front of your friends, if you really feel the need to personally insult me or my colleagues, please have the decency to do it to my face (or contact me directly). That's the end of that as far as I am concerned, and come what may, I look forward to having a beer with you, and the rest of the fans at St Marys, hopefully to celebrate our first win (and hopefully with us in charge). Best wishes Tony How much money have you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I have read that apology twice now and all I can see is someone being ironic and taking the p*ss.....as I have been saying all along the only way for Pinnacle to prove themselves is to complete. There is not one true Saints fan that doesn't want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I have read that apology twice now and all I can see is someone being ironic and taking the p*ss.....as I have been saying all along the only way for Pinnacle to prove themselves is to complete. There is not one true Saints fan that doesn't want that. Not quite. I am a true Saints fan and am not sure I want the Pinnacle bid to succeed. If it is the only option and the only way my club will exist, then yes I'd like it to succeed. But if there is an option that involved more wealth from another consortium, I would prefer that thanks. That's no disrespect to Pinnacle - but the wealthiest owners are the best owners in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Not quite. I am a true Saints fan and am not sure I want the Pinnacle bid to succeed. If it is the only option and the only way my club will exist, then yes I'd like it to succeed. But if there is an option that involved more wealth from another consortium, I would prefer that thanks. That's no disrespect to Pinnacle - but the wealthiest owners are the best owners in football. Just because they have more money doesn't neccessarily mean they are the best, what if MJ consortium have the most money but intend to sell off all the assetts? For the record I have serious doubs about Pinnacle, how can someone whose yearly turnover is 100k then expect to manage a multi million pound turnover club like Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Still confused GM saying sorry BEFORE deal is actually done TL saying they may "still be trumped" clear as mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Hilarious that Tony was duped by that 'apology' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 In all sincerityWhen somebody uses those words I don't expect the following comments to be "ironic" or "taking the p!ss". Maybe these days it's expected that people tell lies and perhaps I'm a little but gullible but the word "sincerity" still means something to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 When somebody uses those words I don't expect the following comments to be "ironic" or "taking the p!ss". Maybe these days it's expected that people tell lies and perhaps I'm a little but gullible but the word "sincerity" still means something to me. I may be totally wrong and he was being sincere..just 'knowing' him for many years on this forum it just seemed an irony type of post considering Pinnacle actually hadn't completed yet. If it had been after completion then no doubts at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 In all sincerity, I am very happy that it appears the the Pinnacle bid will go through following their acceptance of the Football League's position. I have had a number, a large number, of instances of being wrong in my life, largely due to the large size of my mouth and the small size of my brain, but, given my deep love for Southampton Football Club, my passion, on this occasion, swamped my judgement. That judgement seems to have been wrong and Mr. Fialka and his North London friends appear to have access to the £14M that will save our club, together with an investment plan that will help put the club back in the Premiership. I apologise, unreservedly to Mr. Lynam and Mr. Fialka for the abuse that I have posted and hope that by supporting the club when they take over, I will be able to make amends. Finally, I was made aware that I called Mr. Fialka a "dustbin lid". This deeply upset one of our posters who is married to a black lady and has mixed race children. He believes that that comment makes me the worst type of racist, one that didn't know he was one. I am very sorry to him and to Mr. Fialka if they found the term offensive and racist. Please forgive me in the future for any words I use that also rhyme with offensive terms. I hope that in the spirit of reconciliation, all those that thought Mr. Fialka and Mr. Lynam were "potless" join me in apologising.... I have new found respect for you GM, fair play to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I have not insulted anyone but merely pointed out inconsistencies in the PR statements made by Mr Lynam. The only interest I have in Mr Fialka is not his religion or that he lives with his parents but whether he has the funds to complete the purchase. Clearly as cruelly exposed by the Echo of all places he does not have them personally as claimed on SSN. And so now we have moved to his unnamed colleagues who are wealthy - a far cry from one individual with 'several hundred million pounds'. The way Pinnacle have gone about this purchase has been very amateurish and some statements have been ill judged. To allow the exclusivity to lapse and the wages go unpaid was always going to undermine the bid and to blame the FL was never going to be acceptable to the fan base and prospective Pinnacle customers. I prefer to reserve judgement on all of them until we see who buys the club and whether in the case of Pinnacle the PR matches the reality. I appreciate their efforts but as posted elsewhere headlines of 'Football League scuppers Pinnacle bid' or 'Fry double crosses Pinnacle and sells to someone else' are more likely to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Just because they have more money doesn't neccessarily mean they are the best, what if MJ consortium have the most money but intend to sell off all the assetts? For the record I have serious doubs about Pinnacle, how can someone whose yearly turnover is 100k then expect to manage a multi million pound turnover club like Saints? Sadly, in football, the most money means the best. Intentions are wonderful but you need money and lots of it. I don't like it - I'm sure you don't either - but that's the reality. Having enough to buy the club but no more is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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