Matthew Le God Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 (edited) ince jumped too early, but to say he is not good at this level (despite achieving more than most) is a bit harsh He has never managed in League One Edited 28 June, 2009 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 many I would prefer over Ince and most would probably be cheaper too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 June, 2009 He has never managed in League One this level meaning "lower league" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 This needs a tough, no nonsense manager and for that we need the one manager capable of putting together a strong squad, quickly wiping out the points deficit and getting in with a chance of promotion. For me the one person capable of this who is available is DENNIS WISE. If money's no hold back then pair him up with Gus Poyet. I agree with sentiments, and Wise ok if no-one better. Peter Reid is pretty frightening when the players don't perform (according to Redknapp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 if MLT was only speaking to KK and others for advice on who to employ as manager there is one name if havent seen mentioned that i think would have been very high on the list of names, and if were allowing ourselves to believe that KK or WGS (which would both be fantastic) are coming theres no reason to not add one more. the best choice of manager( not the sexiest i know) is steve coppell Check that with ladysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 this level meaning "lower league" Strange logic you have there. Level normally means the actual level not vague terms like "lower league". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Strange logic you have there. Level normally means the actual level not vague terms like "lower league". neither has tisdale managed at THIS level, yet he is massively favoured over ince... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 neither has tisdale managed at THIS level, yet he is massively favoured over ince... I don't agree that he should be favoured over Ince either. But I still don't think Ince has proved himself enough to warrant his name being bandied about as much as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I dont understand all this must have experience of the League Nigel Pearson did not neither did Dennis Wise who with only a ten point deduction would have got Leeds Promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I don't agree that he should be favoured over Ince either. But I still don't think Ince has proved himself enough to warrant his name being bandied about as much as it is. i think it is banded about as he is.. A. yes a fairly big name B. out of work C. has experience with this sort of football D. would attract a better calibre of player that will realistically come to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Keegan if Pinnacle come up with the money he wants ...mmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 George Graham anybody? 1-0 to the etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Unfortunately i think it maybe Dowie.Hope i'm wrong. My understanding is Dowie is staying north of the country. Was approached but not interested for same reason - source his brother in law......but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Hoddle will come. All the problems in the past are sorted. MLT and Glenda are now friendly through Sky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Hoddle will come. All the problems in the past are sorted. MLT and Glenda are now friendly through Sky! Are you Dalek in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 No was dubious at first but helps explain the silence about the new manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Anybody but Alan ****ing Shearer and Nigel Pearson. People seriously suggesting WGS... Shut up. What's wrong with Nigel Pearson? Our only decent manager since Strachan. We'd be as lucky as anything if we could get him back, plus it would really annoy Mandaric. Zero chance of it happening though, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I was anti Hoddle coming back, but would be mildly happy if he did this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Lets be realistic, KK no, if so would've been announced. PT is happy at Exeter and is not a big name. AS/ID in negoiations with NUFC PI Nooooooooooo! GH Has connections and does explain why everything is quiet on the manager front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 What's wrong with Nigel Pearson? Our only decent manager since Strachan. We'd be as lucky as anything if we could get him back, plus it would really annoy Mandaric. Zero chance of it happening though, sadly. He wasn't here long enough to make a proper informed decision IMO. However he did bloody well at leicster, just hope whoever we get in will get proper backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Lets be realistic, KK no, if so would've been announced. PT is happy at Exeter and is not a big name. AS/ID in negoiations with NUFC PI Nooooooooooo! GH Has connections and does explain why everything is quiet on the manager front. KK has been spoken to so being realistic he is a possability. He wouldnt have been announced as yet because right now Pinnacle own as much of the club as I do and therefor have as much right as me to tell the worl who will or wont be the manager next season. PT maybe happy at Exeter but its believed MLT has also spoken to himm and as he has not publicly come out and said he will be at Exeter next season dispite the speculation suggestion otherwise his name remains firmly in the frame. Shearer and Dowie look the most unlikly IMO as it seems they wish to stick it out at the toon. Ince has only really been mentioned on here hasnt he? I dont see what the attraction is but being out of work his name may still be talked about. Hoddle is just about the wildest wild card we have. I dont see any reason for MLT and Co to go down that route and I dont see what he would be able to do for us in League 1? It would be like the new lot following on from where Lowe left off which seems like suicide to me. I admit he would be a good name and he has alot to prove so should he come back and do well I think we would benifit from it. But IMO it wont happen in a million years. The silence on the new manager is purly down to this time next week Pinnacle may still be on the outside arguing about -10 points while the Swiss take over and install Sven Goran Ericson or Peter Pan or someone as the new Saints Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Aidy Boothroyd please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homesick-saint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I think that if nothing else, we have learned that getting a manager on the cheap is not the answer. Look at what Bruce achieved at Wigan. Forget the football (although they performed very well under his stewardship) but he earned his money several times over just through his transfer dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Lets be realistic, KK no, if so would've been announced. PT is happy at Exeter and is not a big name. AS/ID in negoiations with NUFC PI Nooooooooooo! GH Has connections and does explain why everything is quiet on the manager front.[/quote] This bit I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Aidy Boothroyd please... Long ball merchant, no thanks. Ince for me, instill a bit of spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Long ball merchant, no thanks. Ince for me, instill a bit of spirit Just signed for MK Dons Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 prefer Wotte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I agree. I don't know what on earth is wrong with Wotte apart from him not being English or British. One of those ghastly europeans, he's got to be driven out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I don't know what on earth is wrong with Wotte Inept tactics and questionable team selection are 2 things. Still, maybe he'll be ok in a lower league when he's had the chance to organise his own squad over pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Inept tactics and questionable team selection are 2 things. Still, maybe he'll be ok in a lower league when he's had the chance to organise his own squad over pre-season. Strange isn't it that people whose only qualification in professional football is watching the game from the stands, know more about team selection and tactics than people who do the job for a living. If a fan doesn't understand the tactics it is more likely to be a lack on the part of the fan than anything to do with the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I didn't realise you needed to be a qualified professional to have an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 KK has been spoken to so being realistic he is a possability. He wouldnt have been announced as yet because right now Pinnacle own as much of the club as I do and therefor have as much right as me to tell the worl who will or wont be the manager next season. PT maybe happy at Exeter but its believed MLT has also spoken to himm and as he has not publicly come out and said he will be at Exeter next season dispite the speculation suggestion otherwise his name remains firmly in the frame. Shearer and Dowie look the most unlikly IMO as it seems they wish to stick it out at the toon. Ince has only really been mentioned on here hasnt he? I dont see what the attraction is but being out of work his name may still be talked about. Hoddle is just about the wildest wild card we have. I dont see any reason for MLT and Co to go down that route and I dont see what he would be able to do for us in League 1? It would be like the new lot following on from where Lowe left off which seems like suicide to me. I admit he would be a good name and he has alot to prove so should he come back and do well I think we would benifit from it. But IMO it wont happen in a million years. The silence on the new manager is purly down to this time next week Pinnacle may still be on the outside arguing about -10 points while the Swiss take over and install Sven Goran Ericson or Peter Pan or someone as the new Saints Manager. I would imagine that the chances of Glenn Hoddle being appointed arre now higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Strange isn't it that people whose only qualification in professional football is watching the game from the stands, know more about team selection and tactics than people who do the job for a living. If a fan doesn't understand the tactics it is more likely to be a lack on the part of the fan than anything to do with the manager. I just love these sort of mongy comments.... Here we are, a fan's website, and we're not supposed to be making comments about managerial decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Strange isn't it that people whose only qualification in professional football is watching the game from the stands, know more about team selection and tactics than people who do the job for a living. If a fan doesn't understand the tactics it is more likely to be a lack on the part of the fan than anything to do with the manager. I think that much should be clear after the debacle of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I just love these sort of mongy comments.... Here we are, a fan's website, and we're not supposed to be making comments about managerial decisions... I think the original poster maybe suggesting that the lack of knowledge with regards to some fans makes their objectivity suspect. I personally think managers should be given more time before they are sacked but that said I felt it was fully justified if Burley had been sacked and felt that Dave Jones was probably at the end of his Dell career when his unfortunate problem arose which was awful for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I have to say, after Wotte's loyalty during tough times, I would be more then happy to let him lead us next year. And if we do badly, well, at least it's something we are used to. If we suddenly started kicking arse I would probably have a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 I have to say, after Wotte's loyalty during tough times, I would be more then happy to let him lead us next year. And if we do badly, well, at least it's something we are used to. If we suddenly started kicking arse I would probably have a heart attack. Confidence I feel is the key if we win a few early games things will improve I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Strange isn't it that people whose only qualification in professional football is watching the game from the stands, know more about team selection and tactics than people who do the job for a living. If a fan doesn't understand the tactics it is more likely to be a lack on the part of the fan than anything to do with the manager. Judging by your user name I imagine you are a very studious and intelligent person. Therefore I find it quite hard to believe that you could have watched a number of the games Wotte has been in charge for and not questioned his tactics. Professionals make mistakes. He may well be an excellent coach but that doesn't mean his qualities transfer to managing a team. His ability to make worthwhile changes during a game and react to positively combat and exploit the opposition tactics are often poor. I think I'm entitled to my opinion. I pay to watch Saints on a regular basis and am an FA Qualified coach. Granted, not professionally but I feel I have a decent enough grasp of the game to justify my comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Just signed for MK Dons Again Thank God for that, would have been one of the worst options available, and would have ****ed off as soon as something else came up at a slightly higher level I understand Jo Tessem is being lined up to take over, following his success with BAT Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 Thank God for that, would have been one of the worst options available, and would have ****ed off as soon as something else came up at a slightly higher level I understand Jo Tessem is being lined up to take over, following his success with BAT Sports One of the worst options available IYO of course, IMO opinion he would of been a great option. As for legging it at the drop of a hat should a higher club come in for him isn't that what most managers do? I'm assuming you are joking on the Tessem quote, IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 One of the worst options available IYO of course, IMO opinion he would of been a great option. As for legging it at the drop of a hat should a higher club come in for him isn't that what most managers do? I'm assuming you are joking on the Tessem quote, IMO of course. Legging it is what managers do who think they are big time charlies, such as Ince, came a cropper when he left MK for Balckburn. A complete and utter Tosser IMHO of course. I am really really pleased that he is out of the equation (will probably have to put up with him getting MK to beat us this season though I suppose) As for Jo, who knows, might explain why he is down at Staplewood though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 3 July, 2009 Share Posted 3 July, 2009 With respect to managers moving to bigger clubs surely thats natural progression as eith any career. You cant tell me that should a bigger and better firm come in for you offering you a better job, with more wages etc you wouldnt take it - ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 Legging it is what managers do who think they are big time charlies, such as Ince, came a cropper when he left MK for Balckburn. A complete and utter Tosser IMHO of course. I am really really pleased that he is out of the equation (will probably have to put up with him getting MK to beat us this season though I suppose) As for Jo, who knows, might explain why he is down at Staplewood though Just training apparently before finding a club in league 7 of the Norwegian league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 I agree. I don't know what on earth is wrong with Wotte apart from him not being English or British. One of those ghastly europeans, he's got to be driven out! His football managament career is what is wrong with Mr Chocolate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 Lets be realistic, KK no, if so would've been announced. PT is happy at Exeter and is not a big name. AS/ID in negoiations with NUFC PI Nooooooooooo! GH Has connections and does explain why everything is quiet on the manager front.[/quote] This bit I don't understand. I would have thought that IF we survive to start the League Campaign ( currently without a CVA, so another - 15points ) ....... Wotte would continue to be our Manager We go on about not rocking the Boat ....... bringing in a new manager at this late stage would capsize it IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth_kenobi Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 Ince has rejoind MK Don's so it won't be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_No_7 Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 Mark wotte has been totally dignified and deserves at least a chance... also the old 80's chant of "YOU WHAT YOU WHAT, YOU WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WHAT, could quite easily be adapted:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 I think we all know that wotte has been given the gig just to bring a bit stability to the playing side whilst the takeover sh1t continues,he knows that and he also knows that in the end he will have to step aside for a new man the the deal is finally done. He is on a 12 month rolling contract which gives him some security,which IMO he deserves. He is not everybodys cup of tea but he has been dignified,patient and willing whilst chaos reigned around him.he wouldn't be my choice and I suspect he wouldn't be the choice of most of you but out of the 90 or so currently unemployed managers there would only be 3 or 4 who I would like to be given the job. I think we have to be realistic,the only way we are going to get a 'big name,crowd puller' type of manager is if the new owners have a large chequebook otherwise we are going to end up with something similar to what we already have.....would they be any better? The way I see it is that for the time being it would be beneficial if we stick with wotte,it's not ideal but it at least brings a bit of stability in these chaotic times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 any ideas..? keegan still..? Ince..? all this assuming Pinnacle finally complete ABW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 July, 2009 Share Posted 4 July, 2009 Strange isn't it that people whose only qualification in professional football is watching the game from the stands, know more about team selection and tactics than people who do the job for a living. If a fan doesn't understand the tactics it is more likely to be a lack on the part of the fan than anything to do with the manager. what so when we lose it is the fans fault for not understanding the tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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