derry Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) Showing my age here - didn't there used to be a cinema there originally? The Plaza? :oops: I can see you've cheered up Ruth, more your usual self. I hope they deliver this time. Yes it was the Plaza. Edited 27 June, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It's a two horse race IMO, with the Swiss probably in with a very good chance. Should be interesting. No mention of Hoddle :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 There never was any danger of a greater deduction; it was always just about the -10 and waiving the right to appeal. I'll be delighted if the deal does go through monday or tuesday, but I'm past blindly believing mr lynam's promises now I'm afraid. K. By the rules there was/is every chance of a greater deduction. But if there has been an agreement that the -10 is as far as it goes and Pinnacle have been argueing it to the point we are almost gone then IMO they have been stupid. No doubt we will find out some time soon either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Saints fans, who have moved far away from the city of their birth, may be interested to know that only a tiny solitary storey block of the original Southern TV/TVS/Meridian Studios is left standing. And apart from the gatehouse, everything else is rubble or gone. Sorry to have gone off-topic, but the title is Sky Sports News, so I'm not a million miles away. where has the banana gone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 After reading the following quote by MLT on the BBC site I am still a tad concerned:- "There are still other clauses in the Football League document [denying the right of appeal] that we believed to be ambiguous, which we hope the Football League are able to be fair in this respect and we hope to come to an agreement on Monday. Too many "hopes" for me to be totaly at ease, but roll on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'm not worried about MLT and Falkia not having experience of running a big company. Wilde, Lowe, Hume et al had a great deal of experience in running companies. Unfortunatley for Saints, they managed to run us into the ground. How about judging them on what they acheive, rather than indulge in the toy throwing, foot stamping and nihilism that has been filling this board for the past two weeks ( ..... wait ten seconds for the deluge of outraged posts headed in my direction ) To begin with, what matters is that we relearn how to win games. The money will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Frankly, I'll be glad to have a deal sorted, regardless of who it is, but I have to say I am unnerved by the reports on Fialka. What wealth does he actually have? Is it the "hundreds of millions" that Tony Lyname promised? Does a property developer have the commercial know-how to run a club of our size? (no disrespect, but property development is not like running a large scale organisation) I guess we'll find out, but I can't help feel a little let down with what appears to be the reality, after Tony Lynams previous positive posts. I still hold out hope however to be pleasantly surprised... Does it really matter at this stage? I don't care if it's Delboy. So long as we are registered by the FL and start to win games. Sorry, I've given up waiting for Paul Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 are reporting that pinnacle will accept the 10 point deduction there sports reporter spoke 2 mlt and he said deal will go through monday or tuesday at the latest good news ? I would love it to happen, but whats different from the other half-dozen times someone from Pinnacle have said 'tomorrow'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I would love it to happen, but whats different from the other half-dozen times someone from Pinnacle have said 'tomorrow'? Exactly what I was wondering. I have been out all day and now find that everything is all sunshine and light and I am damned if I can find anything that holds water enough to justify this outpouring of happiness. *shrugs shoulders and leaves* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If I were a betting man, I would have my money on the Swiss being our new owners. What,s the bet ? A bag of spuds ( Channel island or Irish ) and a bacon sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 After reading the following quote by MLT on the BBC site I am still a tad concerned:- "There are still other clauses in the Football League document [denying the right of appeal] that we believed to be ambiguous, which we hope the Football League are able to be fair in this respect and we hope to come to an agreement on Monday. Too many "hopes" for me to be totaly at ease, but roll on Tuesday Best thing to do is go to bed until Wednesday then hopefully...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Here's hoping the swiss pull it off then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It appears that they only have to prove to Mark Fry and the creditors that they have the money. And Mark seems to think they have so I dont think TL and MLT will be contacting you in the near futue ALIstair DIAs - Ali Dia - get it? It's a joke someone started a while back. There is no such person ... Yes that what I believed, but why was the name in the email shown this morning on the thread now removed - was this email also a hoax? If the email was one that actually went to Mark Fry with the names of Pinnacle backers had this name in it- then something is not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Dias exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Dias exists outside of Toronto Uni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) as far as i am aware this may or may not be him...... https://secure.creditgate.com/search/search.aspx?directorsurname=Dias&directorfirstname=Alastair&searchby=postcode&AdditionalSearch=W13+8HX&IsDirectorSearch=1 Edited 27 June, 2009 by saint_stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 where has the banana gone??? i am demolishing that site at the mo, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 believe it when I see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Showing my age here - didn't there used to be a cinema there originally? The Plaza? :oops: I stand corrected TBF. The original Southern TV studios were indeed the former Plaza cinema. I suppose I had in mind the original Meridian Studios, but tacked on the Southern TV/TVS bit for historical reference to Saints fans from every era. :axe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speculator Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Here's hoping the swiss pull it off then MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdownunder Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 This is dragging on to long for my liking We have the fans and the stadium to regroup from any miner set back (-10 points) and playing in league 1 To see the saints back on the park will be a victory within itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Thankfully, it's only speculation. I'm hoping he is richer than the average footy chairman, that is all, anything more would be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 (edited) You are just that, and you don't know the half of it. I'm not going to elaborate on this, but i'm sure the truth will come out eventually. Course it will son. You keep knocking one out over Pinnacle's super dooper professional legal team. Edited 28 June, 2009 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. The dream ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 [The dream ticket? :smt093oh my god no ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Some people really are gluttons for punishment ...... .........Where have you been for the last 12 + years ????? ........ Fantasia ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Think there's a large dose of... going on in one or two threads just now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Some people really are gluttons for punishment Actually, I would hazard a guess that some people have multiple identities;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Some fair and valid points. Track record of those writing on forums is not too impressive . Fialka is indeed a worry,although is better than having no club at all. Yes,I too regret MLT might be setting himself up for a great deal of public humiliation by being too closely associated with this group.At some stage someone wrote that MLT had been instrumental in bringing backers to the table.Now that one has been revealed that just does not seem plausible to me. Would not however want Lowe back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I would prefer Lowe back Amongst all the nonsense and rubbish posted on here in the last few days these 5 words trump the lot !!! And its from a new member who only joined this month ................can i smell a small rodent here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Amongst all the nonsense and rubbish posted on here in the last few days these 5 words trump the lot !!! And its from a new member who only joined this month ................can i smell a small rodent here ? I smelt a Man or a Bear or a Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I smelt a Man or a Bear or a Beast who eats in a canteen???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. 1 most companies don't have a fans forum - this is not taking over an insurance company 2 aura of wealth? what's that nice suit? Fry was clear and adamant yesterday that they have substantial wealth. 3 what do you know about the swiss? IMHO Pinnacle are offering all we have wished for - if they complete on Monday they have my support in trying to deliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I smelt a Man or a Bear or a Beast He aint done another Reggie Perrin on us has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Hello Nineteen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. Too intelligent for Jacko, but punctuation is lacking. Possibly his sidekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Course it will son. You keep knocking one out over Pinnacle's super dooper professional legal team. LOL at a jumped up kid calling me son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie@home Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I have definitely got to the stage now where I'll believe it if I see it. MLT has expected the deal to be signed tomorrow, whenever tomorrow is, on at least 3 different occasions. I think he is relying a lot on what TL has told him rather than his own concrete knowledge of those involved. From my own personal experience of dealing in business with the Spurs supporting North London Jewish community, getting them to part with any money is like drawing blood from a stone. They regard it as some kind of badge of honour to hang on to their money until the last possible moment with no regard for how other people in business view them or their reputation. Perhaps we have been unlucky, but I groaned when I heard where the Pinnacle consortium or individual backer, whoever he or they are, comes from. I just hope I'm wrong, because I am sure that MLT has the best intentions. I just don't know how good his instincts are at 'smelling a rat'. Some of us have a natural instinct for realising who is a bull****ter, some others get suckered in time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Just as I'm also biting my fingernails over a bid on ebay at this moment. Christ! How much did you bid for the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I just hope I'm wrong, because I am sure that MLT has the best intentions. I just don't know how good his instincts are at 'smelling a rat'. Some of us have a natural instinct for realising who is a bull****ter, some others get suckered in time and time again. I think MLT has a nose for smelling a rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 MLT aside, I dread the thought of Lynam and Fialka getting any nearer to our club than they are all ready. IMO senior businessmen involved in complex takeovers do not act all matey on fans forums and whilst I accept the Echo may not have marked Fialka's card 100% correctly, no smoke without fire and I'm sure some if not all the stories that they have published give at least some cause for concern. Certainly, he gives no aura of a millionaire or someone who has access to wealth. IMO he gives the impression of a small time property developer with delusions of grandeur on an unprecedented scale. As for Lynam he seems to have rewritten the book 'How to be Popular with Fans' allegedly written in the beginning by Leon Crouch. Frankly if the Swiss don't get in I would prefer Lowe back with McMenemy as our new forward thinking manager. In the meantime my concern is for MLT's reputation as I can't equate his reasons for support with my negative opinion on everything else regarding Pinnacle. I want MLT at the club but not with the Pinnacle consortium as owners, I simply have a very bad feeling about the whole thing given the size of our club and as others have said it just doesn't stack up despite reports to the contrary. Fialka is buying Saints and on the face of it doesn't have the money or the business acumen to make a success of Winchester City. This week Matthew I'm going to be..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 I have definitely got to the stage now where I'll believe it if I see it. MLT has expected the deal to be signed tomorrow, whenever tomorrow is, on at least 3 different occasions. I think he is relying a lot on what TL has told him rather than his own concrete knowledge of those involved. From my own personal experience of dealing in business with the Spurs supporting North London Jewish community, getting them to part with any money is like drawing blood from a stone. They regard it as some kind of badge of honour to hang on to their money until the last possible moment with no regard for how other people in business view them or their reputation. Perhaps we have been unlucky, but I groaned when I heard where the Pinnacle consortium or individual backer, whoever he or they are, comes from. I just hope I'm wrong, because I am sure that MLT has the best intentions. I just don't know how good his instincts are at 'smelling a rat'. Some of us have a natural instinct for realising who is a bull****ter, some others get suckered in time and time again. Agree with this. How bizarre that a chairman who coined the phrase,is now likely to be superceded by a "north London yobbo".I wouldn't want him in charged of an under 9's team let alone Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Agree with this. How bizarre that a chairman who coined the phrase,is now likely to be superceded by a "north London yobbo".I wouldn't want him in charged of an under 9's team let alone Saints. Explain yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulip Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Agree with this. How bizarre that a chairman who coined the phrase,is now likely to be superceded by a "north London yobbo".I wouldn't want him in charged of an under 9's team let alone Saints. i think it's time for your medication mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 Explain yourself "north London yobbo", its openly stated the bloke is a Srurs fan. As for running the club or being heavily involved in it,the business credentials listed on here and elsewhere would not inspire confidence to run a business such as Saints.The blokes football background and experience - unless there is more info we are not aware of - is no greater than the that of the coaches who run my kids teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 i think it's time for your medication mush. Yes,back to the bottle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 "north London yobbo", its openly stated the bloke is a Srurs fan. As for running the club or being heavily involved in it,the business credentials listed on here and elsewhere would not inspire confidence to run a business such as Saints.The blokes football background and experience - unless there is more info we are not aware of - is no greater than the that of the coaches who run my kids teams. Yes I fully understand your point and agree with it MLT as Chairman is a bit strange as well I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 "north London yobbo", its openly stated the bloke is a Srurs fan. As for running the club or being heavily involved in it,the business credentials listed on here and elsewhere would not inspire confidence to run a business such as Saints.The blokes football background and experience - unless there is more info we are not aware of - is no greater than the that of the coaches who run my kids teams. well if the coach of your kids team comes up with £10 million then he can run saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 well if the coach of your kids team comes up with £10 million then he can run saints. Just like Mr Wilde ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 From my own personal experience of dealing in business with the Spurs supporting North London Jewish community, getting them to part with any money is like drawing blood from a stone. They regard it as some kind of badge of honour to hang on to their money until the last possible moment with no regard for how other people in business view them or their reputation. Disregarding your rascist undertones, it is just possible that the community you speak of are good at making money. It is just possible that the intention is to revive Saints and then flog it as a going concern at a profit. I wouldn't mind that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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