gonzo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If true, then fantastic. The reports from the Echo have filled me and many others with dread, thinking that we've all been taken on a ride by Pinnacle. Frankly, I'll still be sceptical until the deal is done, but I'll be delighted to see the Echo proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Being fair to me, I've always said they should fight the injustice of removing the right to appeal and would've supported them all the way. Agreed but in the end we need the club to survive most importantly ( stating the obvious I know!) and I hope you suitably misuse your admin powers if anyone starts whinging about "giving in!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 It's a race between Pinnacle and the Swiss now IMO. What happens if both come into Mark Fry's office ready to sign at 3pm on Monday? Rock, paper, scissors perhaps?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 so friday then. LOL. :grin: Would not be surprised in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll believe when I see it too. But unlike several others, I won't be second guessing, or putting in my 6 pence worth, based on hearsay and what the Echo or SSN said, and reading incorrectly between the lines. I'll wait. Because realistically that's all I can do. Just as I'm also biting my fingernails over a bid on ebay at this moment. Which one????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Which one????? Southampton Football Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Frankly, I'll be glad to have a deal sorted, regardless of who it is, but I have to say I am unnerved by the reports on Fialka. What wealth does he actually have? Is it the "hundreds of millions" that Tony Lyname promised? Does a property developer have the commercial know-how to run a club of our size? (no disrespect, but property development is not like running a large scale organisation) I guess we'll find out, but I can't help feel a little let down with what appears to be the reality, after Tony Lynams previous positive posts. I still hold out hope however to be pleasantly surprised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 villa park 2003 Probabably 1980 and Keegan TBH !! 19 years and 6 years ago - blimey we deserve a change in fortune..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Which one????? Southampton Football Club Sorry guys, just a Scottoiler for my VFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 19 years and 6 years ago - blimey we deserve a change in fortune..... when burley walked was mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If I were a betting man, I would have my money on the Swiss being our new owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 19 years and 6 years ago - blimey we deserve a change in fortune..... do you know what? i do not think anyone would disagree with that , even on here. i suppose Nineteen might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 well the sports editor is a skate what do you expect perhaps the echo should be boycotted until the skate is sacked Do they still have Fred Dinosaur on South Today? Sorry, just curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Key wording of Matt's statement has been missed by everyone here. Appeal still may happen but will not appeal if it means deal the deal can't go through otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Do they still have Fred Dinosaur on South Today? Sorry, just curious! He never was. Perhaps you're thinking of Bruce Parker..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Bulletin just been on SSN (again?). Quote from MLT saying deal will be done by Tuesday at the latest. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 when burley walked was mine Yep we have been flying since Burley left!! Always remember your "anyone could do better" quote(s) anyone but Dudd and Gormless, NP, JP and MW huh! lets not go back to that thou hey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll believe when I see it too. But unlike several others, I won't be second guessing, or putting in my 6 pence worth, based on hearsay and what the Echo or SSN said, and reading incorrectly between the lines. I'll wait. Because realistically that's all I can do. Just as I'm also biting my fingernails over a bid on ebay at this moment. A word of advice. It's best to bid on ebay with 2 seconds to go. A bit like buying a football club really..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Frankly, I'll be glad to have a deal sorted, regardless of who it is, but I have to say I am unnerved by the reports on Fialka. What wealth does he actually have? Is it the "hundreds of millions" that Tony Lyname promised? Does a property developer have the commercial know-how to run a club of our size? (no disrespect, but property development is not like running a large scale organisation) I guess we'll find out, but I can't help feel a little let down with what appears to be the reality, after Tony Lynams previous positive posts. I still hold out hope however to be pleasantly surprised... Fialka may not be the "money man", simply a relative etc of the "money man". As i understand it the club will be in his name though - so it will be one owner. For this reason my hunch is that the "money man" is a relative of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 He never was. Perhaps you're thinking of Bruce Parker..? Who !? Maybe on some other channel, ITV perhaps ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabel Healey Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I was going to say , I'll 'echo' that, Mike, but I won't use that word at the moment. Instead I'll say, after 46 years of support (you've got two on me), I totally agree with you! I'm with you two on this. 47th Year for me, and it's the best policy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Fialka may not be the "money man", simply a relative etc of the "money man". As i understand it the club will be in his name though - so it will be one owner. For this reason my hunch is that the "money man" is a relative of his. MLT just on Solent, referred to buyers , in his words, "of which Michael Fialka is a part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 yeah baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Which one????? Michael Jackson's address book :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 are reporting that pinnacle will accept the 10 point deduction there sports reporter spoke 2 mlt and he said deal will go through monday or tuesday at the latest good news ? So Tuesday is the NEW Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Can we just get Dyer and BWP to break in? No, Dyer has gone to Swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll breathe a sigh of relief when Pinnacle show the colour of their money, in fact when anyone stumps up the cash! I'm still not sure, though, about someone who allegedly threatens to walk away because of some sloppy journalism from a two-bit provincial rag... but that could just be more sloppy journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastleighhalo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Im sure I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that others were wanting a slice of the action alongside and with the present pinnacle bid but were turned away by them.. I wonder if thay are now " on board " ?? hmm?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 So Tuesday is the NEW Friday Except in Dubai, Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Also, Falkia's lawyers are dealing with some un-pleasant reporting from the Echo about him not having any money etc. Wonder where the Echo got its information. Most of the **** being written about this guy was seen on here before it made it to the Echo, and has been repeated by several on here despite them having no grounds for the information that they were writing. Hope SWF don't get sucked in because of some posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll breathe a sigh of relief when Pinnacle show the colour of their money, in fact when anyone stumps up the cash! I'm still not sure, though, about someone who allegedly threatens to walk away because of some sloppy journalism from a two-bit provincial rag... but that could just be more sloppy journalism. Maybe he was also reading on here, all the jovial remarks about himself and his family............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll breathe a sigh of relief when Pinnacle show the colour of their money, in fact when anyone stumps up the cash! I'm still not sure, though, about someone who allegedly threatens to walk away because of some sloppy journalism from a two-bit provincial rag... but that could just be more sloppy journalism. Or misinformation fed to the sloppy journalists from fantasist lunatics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Wonder where the Echo got its information. Most of the **** being written about this guy was seen on here before it made it to the Echo, and has been repeated by several on here despite them having no grounds for the information that they were writing. Hope SWF don't get sucked in because of some posters. My thought.....mayhap he sues the Echo, and the Echo seeks recompence from the forum.............Um!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Fialka may not be the "money man", simply a relative etc of the "money man". As i understand it the club will be in his name though - so it will be one owner. For this reason my hunch is that the "money man" is a relative of his. That's the most rational explanation I can find. Very rich uncle or something. Just hope it's not a way to subvert "fit and proper person" test. (slaps himself for being cynical even when good news breaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Or misinformation fed to the sloppy journalists from fantasist lunatics... That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 MLT's use of the word 'hope' to complete a takeover on Mon/Tues still worries me, we've been hoping for weeks now! About 75% confident atm that it will go through this week, wish he'd come out and said 'We WILL complete the takover on mon/tues' tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 MLT's use of the word 'hope' to complete a takeover on Mon/Tues still worries me, we've been hoping for weeks now! About 75% confident atm that it will go through this week, wish he'd come out and said 'We WILL complete the takover on mon/tues' tho! What if there is a last minute hitch like one of the 'principals' - now isn't that an ITK phrase - getting ill. Everyone would then call MLT a liar wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 That's the most rational explanation I can find. Very rich uncle or something. Just hope it's not a way to subvert "fit and proper person" test. (slaps himself for being cynical even when good news breaks) Immigrant families, be they hindus, jews, muslims etc, tend to keep their business interests "in house". It makes perfect sense because these families are generally very structured and honour is paramount. By making Michael Fialka the owner under normal circumstances would be risky, but family bonds in jewish circles are strong enough to mean there's no risk - it's how they've been brought up. It may be a relative seeing potential in Michael and giving him a break, it may be a purchase that's good for tax purposes - i don't know, but what i do know is that Pinnacle have passed due dilligence and proved they have the funds to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Frankly, I'll be glad to have a deal sorted, regardless of who it is, but I have to say I am unnerved by the reports on Fialka. What wealth does he actually have? Is it the "hundreds of millions" that Tony Lyname promised? Does a property developer have the commercial know-how to run a club of our size? (no disrespect, but property development is not like running a large scale organisation) I guess we'll find out, but I can't help feel a little let down with what appears to be the reality, after Tony Lynams previous positive posts. I still hold out hope however to be pleasantly surprised... Never heard of Kevin McCabe then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 A word of advice. It's best to bid on ebay with 2 seconds to go. A bit like buying a football club really..... A word of advice. Don't assume I don't know that..! It's the 1 seconders that get me going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Or misinformation fed to the sloppy journalists from fantasist lunatics... You mean a conspiracy? Surely not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 You mean a conspiracy? Surely not... Nah, just sloppy, lazy journalism. About what you expect n'est pas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 The bungling Echo are now running with the story. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4462854.Saints_take_over_could_be_complete_in_days/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 As long as somebody buys the club before Friday, or at least puts some money up to pay the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I watched it too. Said the deal would be complete by Tuesday at the latest. Also, Falkia's lawyers are dealing with some un-pleasant reporting from the Echo about him not having any money etc. We've heard this a lot in the past 2 weeks, but once again, Le Tissier urged us to be patient and trust him. Roll on Tuesday! He's about the only one I do trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I'll breathe a sigh of relief when Pinnacle show the colour of their money Mark Fry confirmed 19 June that the money and everything was in place, the delay was the FL business, so it should be safe to say they colour of the money is already known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 As much as i'd love that grotty little rag brought to account, my advice to Pinnacle would be to let it go and just concentrate on SFC. I really hope this does mean that the deal goes through after all the delays and worries. However firstly Tony and Co. need to realise that in their attempts to be transparent they have caused their own PR problems. They need to get their story right - one investor or a consortium. Is Michael Fialka independently wealthy or a front man for a group of backers? When they put Michael up on Sky spouting that old cliche about not buying a pub without a license did they really think that no-one was going to Google him? If they choose to make an enemy of the Echo, which imho for once actually tried to do some research on the subject, they will once again be making a rod for their own backs. They will need the Echo's support in the future. It has to be far better to get together and work with them than antagonise them. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer. If they ride in to town from London on a charm offensive most fans will welcome them. If they charge in carrying writs and moaning about witch hunts they will probably live to regret it. Would be interested to hear Tony's views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I really hope this does mean that the deal goes through after all the delays and worries. However firstly Tony and Co. need to realise that in their attempts to be transparent they have caused their own PR problems. They need to get their story right - one investor or a consortium. Is Michael Fialka independently wealthy or a front man for a group of backers? When they put Michael up on Sky spouting that old cliche about not buying a pub without a license did they really think that no-one was going to Google him? If they choose to make an enemy of the Echo, which imho for once actually tried to do some research on the subject, they will once again be making a rod for their own backs. They will need the Echo's support in the future. It has to be far better to get together and work with them than antagonise them. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer. If they ride in to town from London on a charm offensive most fans will welcome them. If they charge in carrying writs and moaning about witch hunts they will probably live to regret it. Would be interested to hear Tony's views. Wise words Running Man. We've both seen how posting on here is a poisoned chalice for club officials. I advised TL to have a few days away from here about a week ago and it'd be wise if he closed his account and in future just used the OS (all going well!). On the issue of the Echo Lowe was at war with them for a while and it's in no-ones interest for wounds to be re-opened. If pinnacle do the deal the Echo will soon change their tune if they are given a few exclusivs - the grubby little rag is short of sales so they won't look a gift horse in the face! Be smart Tony and Michael, you can have our grubby little rag eating out the palm of your hand if you play your cards right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 ... Also, Falkia's lawyers are dealing with some un-pleasant reporting from the Echo about him not having any money etc. ... I know the Echo gets a lot of criticism on here but I did not see any article that said Falkia did not have the money. They merely reported some verifiable facts about where he lives and the turnover of his company - something that rightly raised some questions about his involvement. They also published Fry's statement that he was satisfied that the money was there. So I cannot see what the lawyers plan to "deal with" exactly. Trying to threaten the press for printing some negative (but factual) information does not feel me with confidence about this guy (and no, I don't have any connection with the Echo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Octopus Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Would be interested to hear Tony's views. I wouldn't blame him if he avoids posting here after all the abuse he has got on here. At the end of the day, He and his group are only trying to save our club. Some of the things posted & printed have been disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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