washsaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now?
John B Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? That question can only be answered surely if the Club is eventually saved or not. Going into administration is not a good move but if the club is saved and fans united then in the long term it maybe. Time will tell Going into Administration appeared to let rid of Lowe and Wilde which was widely welcomed That was their point I believe
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 lol only a complete and utter moron (stanley and co) would rather we went into admin to prove a point... wanting to go into admin is up there in prefering to be in the CCC than the prem..(which so many morons did)
Plumstead_Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? Are you premature at everything you do?
OLYMPIC Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 The thing is was administration in the latter end of last season ever avoidable?By the looks of it no,so it seems in the end regardless of who was in charge admin was always on the cards for this failing business. We can only hope things get better because it would appear there has never been a knight in shining armour waiting to take us over.
Flyer Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? Saints should have gone into admin months earlier. All points deductions would have been applied last season, so there would be more interest in buying a club starting on 0 points and there would have been more time to sort out a takeover, player contracts etc before the money runs out. Its not admin thats the bad thing, its the fact it was left so late in the season.
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Going into Admin was a better option than being liquidated which was the other option. At least it gave us a chance. If ultimately that does not work either we will be no worse off. The bottom line was that the only way this club was going to continue was for Lowe to leave and to go into administration. It should have happened earlier, but it didn't. No-one wanted us to go into admin because it would be fun, but because it was the only option if we were to survive. Its looking increasingly like it is also going to fail, but at least some people tried.
spain saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 lol only a complete and utter moron (stanley and co) would rather we went into admin to prove a point... wanting to go into admin is up there in prefering to be in the CCC than the prem..(which so many morons did) Any different than you and GM seemingly wanting the pinnacle bid to fail?
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Any different than you and GM seemingly wanting the pinnacle bid to fail? where have I (and please feel free to quote) wanted pinnacle to fail..? please show me thanks
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Admin was always going to be inevitable after the appointment of the infamous 'execs'.
Deanovski Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Stop being a ****, just because they wanted it doesnt mean they caused it you talk about it like it was they who filed for admin. would you rather have lowe?
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Saints should have gone into admin months earlier. All points deductions would have been applied last season, so there would be more interest in buying a club starting on 0 points and there would have been more time to sort out a takeover, player contracts etc before the money runs out. Its not admin thats the bad thing, its the fact it was left so late in the season. Totally. If it was inevitable, someone should have had the fecking gumption to get on with it.
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Not sure anyone was ecstatic when we went into admin
um pahars Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? You would have been better off sending a PM, rather than cluttering this board up with a post about 2 or 3 people. Additionally, I don't remember any "Questions for washsaint" threads when your lauded return of Lowe and the Poortvliet went t1ts up and put us where we are now. And lastly, this was what you were trumpeting out last August when you were championing Lowe and Poortvliet: Jeez......what's done is done. People can carry on living in the past and holding grudges forever So Mr Hypocritical, is it only "what's done is done" when it suits you:rolleyes:
Daren W Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 You would have been better off sending a PM, rather than cluttering this board up with a post about 2 or 3 people. Additionally, I don't remember any "Questions for washsaint" threads when your lauded return of Lowe and the Poortvliet went t1ts up and put us where we are now. And lastly, this was what you were trumpeting out last August when you were championing Lowe and Poortvliet: So Mr Hypocritical, is it only "what's done is done" when it suits you:rolleyes: Ouch! I think the problem with administration, as has been mentioned before on this thread, is that we went into it too late. The fact that we come with a crippling 10 point deduction, that effectively rules out promotion straight back to the Championship, puts many serious bidders off... Yet another reason to thank the previous administration....
70's Mike Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 Ouch! I think the problem with administration, as has been mentioned before on this thread, is that we went into it too late. The fact that we come with a crippling 10 point deduction, that effectively rules out promotion straight back to the Championship, puts many serious bidders off... Yet another reason to thank the previous administration.... Agreed lots of selective memories about
rallyboy Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 this is like trying to investigate a car crash when you are still bouncing off the barriers. This personal attack poorly-disguised as a pointless thread could wait for seven days. We are all miffed at what is occuring, let's leave the hangings until the end, then we will know how many gallows we need.
John B Posted 27 June, 2009 Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) this is like trying to investigate a car crash when you are still bouncing off the barriers. This personal attack poorly-disguised as a pointless thread could wait for seven days. We are all miffed at what is occuring, let's leave the hangings until the end, then we will know how many gallows we need. What a really good idea but if everybody agreed with you the Forum would be dead Edited 7 July, 2009 by John B
alpine_saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 I wasnt intending to be smug, but I am just loving this thread... Thanks for the link, Ump.
benjii Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 I have to say, League One on minus 10 beats another season of Lowe's crap easily.
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? Ooops.
John B Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 I have to say, League One on minus 10 beats another season of Lowe's crap easily. Lets wait and see . Everytime I think the team is going to win games things go wrong. By the way I hope you are correct
docker-p Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? Stupid and pointless post. Which I shouldn't bump by responding to but you need to know.
Wes Tender Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? Feeling better and better with every passing hour. You?
brmbrm Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 who were ecstatic when we went into Administration? Are you still as ecstatic now? I'm loving it....... Mmmmm, and living the thread as well. You deserve some smugness, Alps - the longer you wait the better it feels.
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 washsaint ....come on board the train..we are about to leave the station......HOPEFULLY tomorrow morning. I have Leon and Matt serving breakfast and Champagne etc..Your welcome old boy.
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 lol only a complete and utter moron (stanley and co) would rather we went into admin to prove a point... Point proved. I was right, you were wrong, ner ner ner ner.
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 Point proved. I was right, you were wrong, ner ner ner ner. :rolleyes:
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 :rolleyes: Wassup Dulldays, has the cat got your tongue? Loser.
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 LOL, I wouldn't lump everyone in with Alpine! There are morons and then there is Alpine who is soooooo far out there on his own. Although I am still wondering why Um Pahars' nephew hasn't headed up a consortium to take over by now! So maybe Steve should be there too? Of course Administration was never going to be a good thing, but there were those who thought that anything that got rid of Panto villian Lowe was a GOOD thing. Administration has been a nightmare. We have lost good players, we have nearly lost the club, but hey, Lowe's gone!!! Yay. When will people learn? It is not about personalities, it is about dealing with what is with what you have. Alpine would have us believe that Burley's management was a total failure. Play off place in his full season, no danger of relegation. Winning matches away from home and at home. Administration would be our saviour from the likes of Burley and Lowe. People like GM and Jonah were PR plants or the enemy within despite being spot on about abour the Wilde Bunch and the Pinnacle farce. Anyone who ever tried to be balanced was accused of being, oh dear, a "Lowe Luvvie." Morons, Alpine, God we have our share of people who just don't get it, but hey, we got our club back..................
benjii Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 LOL, I wouldn't lump everyone in with Alpine! There are morons and then there is Alpine who is soooooo far out there on his own. Although I am still wondering why Um Pahars' nephew hasn't headed up a consortium to take over by now! So maybe Steve should be there too? Of course Administration was never going to be a good thing, but there were those who thought that anything that got rid of Panto villian Lowe was a GOOD thing. Administration has been a nightmare. We have lost good players, we have nearly lost the club, but hey, Lowe's gone!!! Yay. When will people learn? It is not about personalities, it is about dealing with what is with what you have. Alpine would have us believe that Burley's management was a total failure. Play off place in his full season, no danger of relegation. Winning matches away from home and at home. Administration would be our saviour from the likes of Burley and Lowe. People like GM and Jonah were PR plants or the enemy within despite being spot on about abour the Wilde Bunch and the Pinnacle farce. Anyone who ever tried to be balanced was accused of being, oh dear, a "Lowe Luvvie." Morons, Alpine, God we have our share of people who just don't get it, but hey, we got our club back.................. This thread isn't about whether or not Alpine is a moron (I'm sure we all have our views on that). It was about whether people were still happy. Now... seeing as it seems we are about to be owned by a succesful billionaire who doesn't have any negative connotations (dodgy money, despot etc..), I'd say it's gone better than anyone could have hoped. Don't forget that whether people wanted admin or not, it was Lowe that delivered it (along with another relegation).
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 LOL, I wouldn't lump everyone in with Alpine! There are morons and then there is Alpine who is soooooo far out there on his own. Although I am still wondering why Um Pahars' nephew hasn't headed up a consortium to take over by now! So maybe Steve should be there too? Of course Administration was never going to be a good thing, but there were those who thought that anything that got rid of Panto villian Lowe was a GOOD thing. Administration has been a nightmare. We have lost good players, we have nearly lost the club, but hey, Lowe's gone!!! Yay. When will people learn? It is not about personalities, it is about dealing with what is with what you have. Alpine would have us believe that Burley's management was a total failure. Play off place in his full season, no danger of relegation. Winning matches away from home and at home. Administration would be our saviour from the likes of Burley and Lowe. People like GM and Jonah were PR plants or the enemy within despite being spot on about abour the Wilde Bunch and the Pinnacle farce. Anyone who ever tried to be balanced was accused of being, oh dear, a "Lowe Luvvie." Morons, Alpine, God we have our share of people who just don't get it, but hey, we got our club back.................. sadoldgit ..Good to see you out there sawting the rabble out.:smt007...Who are these Luvvies/morons you speak of? You shocked me when you said GM and jonah were PR plants for Rupes....I did not know that....I always thought they were morons like wot I am:D
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 This thread isn't about whether or not Alpine is a moron (I'm sure we all have our views on that). It was about whether people were still happy. Now... seeing as it seems we are about to be owned by a succesful billionaire who doesn't have any negative connotations (dodgy money, despot etc..), I'd say it's gone better than anyone could have hoped. Don't forget that whether people wanted admin or not, it was Lowe that delivered it (along with another relegation). Oh dear.
Deanovski Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 i dont get most peoples problems with alpine i agree with most if his things then again thats why i think most of you on here are annoying.
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 sadoldgit ..Good to see you out there sawting the rabble out.:smt007...Who are these Luvvies/morons you speak of? You shocked me when you said GM and jonah were PR plants for Rupes....I did not know that....I always thought they were morons like wot I am:D Ottery me old mucker, we are all morons for spending so much time on here when there is life to be lived!!!
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 i dont get most peoples problems with alpine i agree with most if his things then again thats why i think most of you on here are annoying. Are you Alpine's brother-in-law by any chance???
benjii Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 Oh dear. Great reply; it really cuts to the core of our disagreement.
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 Sadoldgit, grow a pair of balls and have the decency to admit you got it wrong.
ottery st mary Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 Ottery me old mucker, we are all morons for spending so much time on here when there is life to be lived!!! Missed you too:smt007 OWTSGMI:rolleyes: COYRs:)
Pat from Poole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 LOL, I wouldn't lump everyone in with Alpine! There are morons and then there is Alpine who is soooooo far out there on his own. Although I am still wondering why Um Pahars' nephew hasn't headed up a consortium to take over by now! So maybe Steve should be there too? Of course Administration was never going to be a good thing, but there were those who thought that anything that got rid of Panto villian Lowe was a GOOD thing. Administration has been a nightmare. We have lost good players, we have nearly lost the club, but hey, Lowe's gone!!! Yay. When will people learn? It is not about personalities, it is about dealing with what is with what you have. Alpine would have us believe that Burley's management was a total failure. Play off place in his full season, no danger of relegation. Winning matches away from home and at home. Administration would be our saviour from the likes of Burley and Lowe. People like GM and Jonah were PR plants or the enemy within despite being spot on about abour the Wilde Bunch and the Pinnacle farce. Anyone who ever tried to be balanced was accused of being, oh dear, a "Lowe Luvvie." Morons, Alpine, God we have our share of people who just don't get it, but hey, we got our club back.................. Burley's management WAS a total failure. We were 15 minutes from relegation with the legacy he left, scandalous given the money he spent.
Wes Tender Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 LOL, I wouldn't lump everyone in with Alpine! There are morons and then there is Alpine who is soooooo far out there on his own. Although I am still wondering why Um Pahars' nephew hasn't headed up a consortium to take over by now! So maybe Steve should be there too? Of course Administration was never going to be a good thing, but there were those who thought that anything that got rid of Panto villian Lowe was a GOOD thing. Administration has been a nightmare. We have lost good players, we have nearly lost the club, but hey, Lowe's gone!!! Yay. When will people learn? It is not about personalities, it is about dealing with what is with what you have. Alpine would have us believe that Burley's management was a total failure. Play off place in his full season, no danger of relegation. Winning matches away from home and at home. Administration would be our saviour from the likes of Burley and Lowe. People like GM and Jonah were PR plants or the enemy within despite being spot on about abour the Wilde Bunch and the Pinnacle farce. Anyone who ever tried to be balanced was accused of being, oh dear, a "Lowe Luvvie." Morons, Alpine, God we have our share of people who just don't get it, but hey, we got our club back.................. I can sense some bitterness here from you, SOG. None of the players lost is irreplaceable and had we survived administration, you know damned well that they would have jumped ship on relegation anyway. The difference is that our new owner does apparently have a few bob to his name, which is more than Lowe and the other charlatans did, so I'm feeling pretty confident that at least we might have some decent replacement players instead of having to trawl the Tyro league for them, as Lowe would have done. So, yes; Lowe's gone. Yay!
saint_stevo Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 maybe it is time to move on people? Fresh start perhaps? Do us all some good?
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 I can sense some bitterness here from you, SOG. None of the players lost is irreplaceable and had we survived administration, you know damned well that they would have jumped ship on relegation anyway. The difference is that our new owner does apparently have a few bob to his name, which is more than Lowe and the other charlatans did, so I'm feeling pretty confident that at least we might have some decent replacement players instead of having to trawl the Tyro league for them, as Lowe would have done. So, yes; Lowe's gone. Yay! So has the deal been signed and all is sorted??? At the point where life is better for SFC I will be right there with you mate.
Mole Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 So has the deal been signed and all is sorted??? At the point where life is better for SFC I will be right there with you mate. History will judge that administration is the point when life got better. Without it the club would still be under the cloud of Lowe and would have continued to die slowly.
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 Burley's management WAS a total failure. We were 15 minutes from relegation with the legacy he left, scandalous given the money he spent. What? When he left we were closer to the play off places than relegation. He won 1.54 points per game, more than any other manager - including Bates and McMenemy -since the war. But for a couple of individual mistakes by players we would have made the play off final. Yep what a failure eh?
Faz Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 What? When he left we were closer to the play off places than relegation. He won 1.54 points per game, more than any other manager - including Bates and McMenemy -since the war. But for a couple of individual mistakes by players we would have made the play off final. Yep what a failure eh? KIV he spent more on players that year than virtually the rest of the division put together.
benjii Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 What? When he left we were closer to the play off places than relegation. He won 1.54 points per game, more than any other manager - including Bates and McMenemy -since the war. But for a couple of individual mistakes by players we would have made the play off final. Yep what a failure eh? Burley is completely irrelevant to this thread. It's a shame you had to bring him up.
sadoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Posted 7 July, 2009 History will judge that administration is the point when life got better. Without it the club would still be under the cloud of Lowe and would have continued to die slowly. Moley, I am not going to argue with you because I don't think it would make a difference...but Lowe didn't sp*nk our money up the wall as the Wilde Bunch and followers did. Lowe had his faults but in 10 years we did actually achieve a lot more than many other Prem clubs. But if you want to see those years as a failure that is fine.
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