Mr Nice Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 If like me you think the whole thing has been a total farce in the way the administration has been handled. Then join me in making a complaint to ric.traynor@begbies-traynor.com
Barfy Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 How has it been a total farce? Begbies Traynor act on behalf of the creditors, not the fans.
Fan The Flames Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Why not wait until the end, sit back and digest the facts, then fire off one if you have to.
The Saturday Boy Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 This place never fails to amaze and amuse me!
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 If like me you think the whole thing has been a total farce in the way the administration has been handled. Then join me in making a complaint to ric.traynor@begbies-traynor.com Would it not be a good idea to wait until you actually know for certain what is going on rather than being reactionary to what at the moment only amounts to speculation and press gossip?
Mr Nice Posted 26 June, 2009 Author Posted 26 June, 2009 Hardly a wind up. I dread to think what the bill for BT is currently and what have they done to show for it ?
The9 Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Jesus Christ, "let's all slag off anyone involved with the whole process as soon as possible"... ...bloody internet...
Scudamore Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Hardly a wind up. I dread to think what the bill for BT is currently and what have they done to show for it ? Kept the club in existence another month... Nobody will bother reading your boring letter of complaint...
Scudamore Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Jesus Christ, "let's all slag off anyone involved with the whole process as soon as possible"... ...bloody internet... I'm strongly thinking about writing an email of complaint to The9
Torres Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Don't forget to post a copy of your letter on here, will you. That goes for both Mr Nice and Scudamore.
Barfy Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Their job is to maintain the company as a going concern in order to sell it to satisfy the creditors. If we have a football club next season and satisfied (in the legal sense) creditors, then they will have done their job. If they can't sell it, then they will liquidate the assets and distribute the proceeds according to the relevant legislation. Their fee is dependent on how long this process takes, and is not dictated by them, but rather how much money is available to the company in order to keep running during administration, and whether anyone is interested in, and can complete a satisfactory purchase of the company. Unfortunately, you, like a lot of others it seems think that B-T are working for the pure benefit of the fans, and that this entire process should be conducted on this forum rather than in a professional corporate manner.
Scudamore Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Their job is to maintain the company as a going concern in order to sell it to satisfy the creditors. If we have a football club next season and satisfied (in the legal sense) creditors, then they will have done their job. If they can't sell it, then they will liquidate the assets and distribute the proceeds according to the relevant legislation. Their fee is dependent on how long this process takes, and is not dictated by them, but rather how much money is available to the company in order to keep running during administration, and whether anyone is interested in, and can complete a satisfactory purchase of the company. Unfortunately, you, like a lot of others it seems think that B-T are working for the pure benefit of the fans, and that this entire process should be conducted on this forum rather than in a professional corporate manner. Everybody could do with reading this post. That and calming down. Laughing at Michael Jackson jokes. Eating some cake. And not posting more ludicrous threads saying the same old sh:t.
Mr Nice Posted 26 June, 2009 Author Posted 26 June, 2009 Don't forget to post a copy of your letter on here, will you. That goes for both Mr Nice and Scudamore. Simple and to the point. Dear Mr Traynor, I presume Mr Mark Fry's P45 is in the post
SaintRobbie Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 I will email them and congratualte them on the way this has been handled. First time we have seen some financial professionalism at SMS for 14 years. People need to realise two things: 1. The prefered bidder (Pinnacle) is in place with Fry et al. Further clarification is needed in a complex deal which takes time. 2. If not Pinnacle Fry et al have to entertain other bids. Either way its a win for Saints. Survival is the key. Survival without Lowe and the chance to rebuild. FWIW, Pinnacle will shortly close the deal IMHO. CHILL!
Barfy Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Everybody could do with reading this post. That and calming down. Laughing at Michael Jackson jokes. Eating some cake. And not posting more ludicrous threads saying the same old sh:t. I could do with some cake right now, only had rich tea to go with my coffee this morning
The9 Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 I'm strongly thinking about writing an email of complaint to The9 I have a bin-shaped filing cabinet under my desk awaiting it !
Torres Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Simple and to the point. Dear Mr Traynor, I presume Mr Mark Fry's P45 is in the post Dear Mr Nice, Please stop wasting my time. Regards, PA to Ric Traynor.
The9 Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Dear Mr Nice, Please stop wasting my time, and find enclosed a bill for £250 for this reply. Regards, PA to Ric Traynor. Fixed.
Fan The Flames Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Hardly a wind up. I dread to think what the bill for BT is currently and what have they done to show for it ? With all your emailing are you worried about your phone bill.
SaintBobby Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 I might be persuaded to complain IF ever deal goes t*ts up. So far, I think Fry has been pretty excellent. I'm also not going to make a di*k of myself by firing off letters of complaint (a)before I know the full details and (b) possibly a few hours before a deal is completed.
Mr Nice Posted 26 June, 2009 Author Posted 26 June, 2009 Even if Pinnacle complete or indeed anyone this whole thing has been very poorly handled. In particular the football league licence situation should of been sorted out weeks ago. Clarification should of been made before any parties where spoken to by BT. Then you have seemingly continual leaks to a local newspaper to drag this on longer. In the meantime tens of thousands of pounds is being billed by BT. A proffesionally run deal would of seen absolutely nothing being disclosed until the deal was complete.
Hopkins Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Even if Pinnacle complete or indeed anyone this whole thing has been very poorly handled. In particular the football league licence situation should of been sorted out weeks ago. Clarification should of been made before any parties where spoken to by BT. Then you have seemingly continual leaks to a local newspaper to drag this on longer. In the meantime tens of thousands of pounds is being billed by BT. A proffesionally run deal would of seen absolutely nothing being disclosed until the deal was complete. Half the people would be in Wacko Jacko's shoes right now if nothing had been leaked. Dying from stress. You probably included. If nothing had been leaked you'd be complaining. So shut up.
Barfy Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Even if Pinnacle complete or indeed anyone this whole thing has been very poorly handled. In particular the football league licence situation should of been sorted out weeks ago. Clarification should of been made before any parties where spoken to by BT. Then you have seemingly continual leaks to a local newspaper to drag this on longer. In the meantime tens of thousands of pounds is being billed by BT. A proffesionally run deal would of seen absolutely nothing being disclosed until the deal was complete. Nothing has been disclosed though, except what Tony Lynam has wanted to reveal. BT were not responsible for sorting out matters with the football league. They are acting on behalf of the creditors to recover monies owing to them, they are not running the company/club merely ensuring that it is stil a going concern to sell. The issues with the FL were always going to be the responsibilities of the prospective new owners, and it is up to those parties how they want to deal with the FL, not BT. Begbies Traynor have not acted improperly in any way. Had they done so, Aviva and Barclays would have acted to resolve the situation before now.
Topcat Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Why did Begbies Traynor think that "Pinnacle" were fit and proper people to consume the past 3 week? If Leon Crouch was the one who paid the exclusivity fee, it raises even more doubts about Begbies Traynor diligence on the "pinnacle" outfit.
Psycrow Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Would it not be a good idea to wait until you actually know for certain what is going on rather than being reactionary to what at the moment only amounts to speculation and press gossip? Or maybe it might be a good idea if he knew something about administration before shooting his mouth off
Psycrow Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Why did Begbies Traynor think that "Pinnacle" were fit and proper people to consume the past 3 week? If Leon Crouch was the one who paid the exclusivity fee, it raises even more doubts about Begbies Traynor diligence on the "pinnacle" outfit. Maybe because Begbies Traynor have significantly more information than you or anyone else on this forum about Pinnacle and the whole situation
Torres Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 Maybe because Begbies Traynor have significantly more information than you or anyone else on this forum about Pinnacle and the whole situation There's a radical idea.
S-Clarke Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 What a stupid thread. They are doing what they were appointed to do, getting the best deal for the creditors. What we fans get at the end of it isn't actually high on their priority list. (Although obviously it's preferable that we do have a football club at the end of it) It's not their fault that this Pinnacle bid has turned into a complete joke. but one thing id like to see them do today is make a decisive decision, i.e kill pinnacles bid.
Psycrow Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 There's a radical idea. I do like to make an effort
benjii Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 If like me you think the whole thing has been a total farce in the way the administration has been handled. Then join me in making a complaint to ric.traynor@begbies-traynor.com You numpty.
Psycrow Posted 26 June, 2009 Posted 26 June, 2009 If like me you think the whole thing has been a total farce in the way the administration has been handled. Then join me in making a complaint to ric.traynor@begbies-traynor.com But out of interest, would you care to outline the details of your complaint to us here on the site? And tell us exactly how, in your opinion, the administrators haven't handled the situation in a proper manner?
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