NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 New single owner offering money to spend on players appointing MLT as chairman and giving him sole charge of football matter including; a MLT choice of new manager being appointed would you think it looked promising? MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. We do not know the details at all of the delay, nor whose fault it is. Why criticise?
PaulSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 Yes if it was all true. Not many believe it anymore though?
aintforever Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 I'd be happy with him as owner, just don't think it will happen and don't like being lied to.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 if MLT is backing this guy, then I will remain hopeful!
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 I'd be happy with him as owner, just don't think it will happen and don't like being lied to. where is the lie?
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 New single owner Which we still will not have but everything else would be good
Thedelldays Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 of course i would love it...but we dont have IT yet
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 of course i would love it...but we dont have IT yet And that's the point. It would be great, we’d all love it. But it's all talk at the moment. Excuse me of becoming slightly sceptical now.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. When was this said?
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 When was this said? i think he's refering to what Micheal Fialka said on SSN, something along the lines of ''hopeful it will be resolved within a few hours'' ?
Burger Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 New single owner offering money to spend on players appointing MLT as chairman and giving him sole charge of football matter including; a MLT choice of new manager being appointed would you think it looked promising? MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. We do not know the details at all of the delay, nor whose fault it is. Why criticise? Love have loved it.....and still do It would be like winning the lottery.....and the probability of that happening is probably the same as the FL making a compromise.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 sky I missed part of the interview. Has anyone put the whole thing on youtube yet?
Colinjb Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 Yep, I would take it. Even if these guys are not the multi trillionaires that so many on here wouldn't settle any less for it is still better then being the work of a group of slimy board members and an eccentric chairman.
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 he said he would be too busy to run the club day to day and MLT would do that, with support from him and Tony on commercial side. said wants to let MLT get on with getting club back to where it was when he was playing wages were paid day late before, and will pay them as soon as takeover is complete, whixh could still be within hours new manager, MLT's choice, asked if had name he said got a few but not willing to say will give MLT money to spend
Saint Charlie Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 he said he would be too busy to run the club day to day and MLT would do that, with support from him and Tony on commercial side. said wants to let MLT get on with getting club back to where it was when he was playing wages were paid day late before, and will pay them as soon as takeover is complete, whixh could still be within hours new manager, MLT's choice, asked if had name he said got a few but not willing to say will give MLT money to spend Sounds good!! Hopefully someone can get it on You Tube or it might be on the Sky site.
70's Mike Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 just think it is time for the talking about what they are going to do to stop and actually do something
aintforever Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 where is the lie? We were told the money man is worth hundreds of millions, we don't know for sure but that does not appear to be the case.
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 We were told the money man is worth hundreds of millions, we don't know for sure but that does not appear to be the case. announed about hour ago and you have been to see his accountant already? I can't vouch for him and we may have been misled, but he has given Fry proof of funds for -can;t remember was it £9m? He has paid about £1m so far. Where is the evidence he has £10m? Not seen it, so maybe he has £500m? No idea but none of the last owners/board invested a penny when they were in charge so anything he gives will be a bonus
John B Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 We were told the money man is worth hundreds of millions, we don't know for sure but that does not appear to be the case. Does it matter really how much he has as long as he buys the club and gets in good players something he said would happen during his SKY interview. We obviously may need more money later but we are in at least Div 1 or Div 2 for two or three years
Gemmel Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 as soon as takeover is complete, whixh could still be within hours to spend His exact words nick were; "within days if not hours"
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 I'll keep watching SSN! Hopefully hours but really, even if it was sorted tonight, they ought to do the decent thing and wait until Friday
Gemmel Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 I'll keep watching SSN! Hopefully hours but really, even if it was sorted tonight, they ought to do the decent thing and wait until Friday Cheers Nick that made me smile
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 I was getting down about it this afternoon but feel a lot more positive after seeing him on SSN
aintforever Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 announed about hour ago and you have been to see his accountant already? I can't vouch for him and we may have been misled, but he has given Fry proof of funds for -can;t remember was it £9m? He has paid about £1m so far. Where is the evidence he has £10m? Not seen it, so maybe he has £500m? No idea but none of the last owners/board invested a penny when they were in charge so anything he gives will be a bonus I have absolutely no problem with the guy if he takes control. A bit of money, MLT and a new manager - that's easily better than starting on zero points with Lowe in charge of a debt ridden PLC. I'm just concerned this deal is not going to happen.
mcjwills Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 If all the debts and mortgage are paid off that would be a good brucie bonus because the money servicing the debts and mortgage can be spent on the team
Joesaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Posted 25 June, 2009 Jump at the chance, Even if we were in the prem we would be better off with this I feel, for lots of reasons COYR
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Posted 25 June, 2009 If all the debts and mortgage are paid off that would be a good brucie bonus because the money servicing the debts and mortgage can be spent on the team forgot about that bit - even better than last yr if it comes off
NickG Posted 28 June, 2009 Author Posted 28 June, 2009 New single owner offering money to spend on players appointing MLT as chairman and giving him sole charge of football matter including; a MLT choice of new manager being appointed would you think it looked promising? MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. We do not know the details at all of the delay, nor whose fault it is. Why criticise? Monday could offer all of this. I am more than happy to give them a go
Junior Mullet Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 I think this is a very positive moment in the history of saints. I was one of the first and most ardent advocates of moving from the PLC structure to single person/small group ownership and the removal of Lowe. I do not think this group will prove to be around long-term. I don't know why, I suppose it has something to do with the apparent lack of pocket depth compared to many of those who own Premiership clubs. Therefore I see the Pinnacle group selling in a few years to someone who may truly be able to provide the funds necessary to compete at the highest level in this day and age - something we were prevented from doing as a result of the wretched PLC structure. This is a means to an ends, not the ends in itself I believe. That said I wish Pinnacle every success and hope that their gamble pays off for themselves and us fans who really have endured enough cr@p in the last few years to last us a life time.
Red and White Army Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 New single owner offering money to spend on players appointing MLT as chairman and giving him sole charge of football matter including; a MLT choice of new manager being appointed would you think it looked promising? MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. We do not know the details at all of the delay, nor whose fault it is. Why criticise? In League 1 Starting with -10 points In Administration Bunch of potless jokers attempting to pick up the club on the cheap A messed up pre-season No idea of our manager, players or strategy. I wouldn't have touched it with a bargepole a year ago. I am sure some idiots will rejoice at it because now we're shot of Lowe.
NickG Posted 28 June, 2009 Author Posted 28 June, 2009 maybe a few months ago would have been better thread title. IF they get it in they do have an idea of manager, and if appointed this week would only be a week later than NP was for Leicester last year. Teams also do fairly well with manager appointed during the season, so while not ideal not huge problem - yet. As Fry was adamant yesterday that the pinnacle bid was backed with substantial wealth I am happy to go with that until evidence shows clearly otherwise. They cannot be potless if they complete the deal - so IF it goes through you are wrong on that.
John B Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 maybe a few months ago would have been better thread title. IF they get it in they do have an idea of manager, and if appointed this week would only be a week later than NP was for Leicester last year. Teams also do fairly well with manager appointed during the season, so while not ideal not huge problem - yet. As Fry was adamant yesterday that the pinnacle bid was backed with substantial wealth I am happy to go with that until evidence shows clearly otherwise. They cannot be potless if they complete the deal - so IF it goes through you are wrong on that. Yes I agree but it is so underwelming and I am not filled with much confidence that success is around the corner . I have no idea who will be in the team as there has been little or no preparation we are currently bottom of Div 1 and at this rate will be there for sometime
WealdSaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 If the deal goes through I'll be more than happy.
yorkie Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 New single owner offering money to spend on players appointing MLT as chairman and giving him sole charge of football matter including; a MLT choice of new manager being appointed would you think it looked promising? MF has just said that is all the case and could be hours away. We do not know the details at all of the delay, nor whose fault it is. Why criticise? I lurk on this forum with my 3-posts a day - and I must confess the need to respond to this one at this stage. As one who imposed a self made ban on visiting SMS with the dark lord returning - I would emphatically take what's on offer. I've been labelled as a non-fan for boycotting SMS, but I still went to away games and bought a ticket for every match at SMS once Rupes had gone! I know I have probably contributed to our current fate - but my few hundred quid wasn't going to stop us going into administration - the fact so many did the same did though. I'm still not sure about the facts of the Pinnacle bid, is it the same as the Wilde situation? All I want is a club that treats the fans, the staff and players fairly. SFC has been part of my life for too long for me to watch another team or get the same passion... Rupert's gone - long live the new regime. In the words of a Who song..."Won't get fooled again" - well I hope not!
westofshannonsaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 of course i would love it...but we dont have IT yet takeovers are always going to go down to the wire, although I am getting nervous, but am still confident that if Pinnacle fail, we will still have a club to support next year. I have absolutely no problem with the guy if he takes control. A bit of money, MLT and a new manager - that's easily better than starting on zero points with Lowe in charge of a debt ridden PLC. Exactly, even if Pinnacle do not have a pot to P155 in, with Lowe gone, MLT as chairman, a largely debt free club we will be in a much better position* than if we did not go into admin. In League 1 Starting with -10 points In Administration Bunch of potless jokers attempting to pick up the club on the cheap A messed up pre-season No idea of our manager, players or strategy. I wouldn't have touched it with a bargepole a year ago. I am sure some idiots will rejoice at it because now we're shot of Lowe. this time last year (i presume the dutch experiment had started by then) I expected us to be starting the 09/10 season in League 1. the -10 points is due to lowe not accepting the inevitable and forcing us into admin before the deadline & take the hit last year, resulting in us still starting in L1 but with 0 points and may have helped pinnacle in their legal difficulties with the league. Fair enough we are having A messed up pre-season and have No idea of our manager, players or strategy - hopefully by Tuesday, but we have heard that before. but in answer to the OP, yes I would have accepted this last year, however unimpressed I am with MF. MLT is on board & in Le God I trust. regardless of how much cash Pinnacle have I still think they will back Saints better than Lowe ever did, which is also why I am glad to read that Crouch has been offered a spot on the board. As for Lowe, I hope he gets 1 more job in football - Chairman of Pompey, after that I hope that the FL change their rules and he is never allowed near a club in the future.
eurosaint Posted 28 June, 2009 Posted 28 June, 2009 In League 1 Starting with -10 points In Administration Bunch of potless jokers attempting to pick up the club on the cheap A messed up pre-season No idea of our manager, players or strategy. I wouldn't have touched it with a bargepole a year ago. I am sure some idiots will rejoice at it because now we're shot of Lowe. Yeah, come back Rupert, all is forgiven !
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