AwaySaint1 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Basic facts ignoring all recent bull**** interviews:- The Pinnacle takeover has not taken place and we have no idea when it will or if it will The players and staff have not been paid when we were told they would be but we are told there is a contingency plan Rest is conjecture I do not have a clue if Mr Fialka has the money to complete this deal or not or whether the FL is the reason or not. We will soon find out. There is,its accepting the Swiss group offer to pay the wages bill if they are allowed to become the front runners in buying Saints. So come on Pinnicle stop dreaming and pay the wages or step aside and allow the big boys a go with the train set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I would like to know what GM has found out. Not sure what Tony Lynham meant when he said that some posters know him. Seems no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holbury Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 the best thing that could happen here is for the mods to close the forum until the takeover has been completed. We're all going crazy! I think we could all do with a break from it. post of the day. Lock the whole forum. We can take no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why. =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 ....but I think we witnessed one tonight. The death of the Pinnacle bid, I mean. I am not even going to bother to post the information I gained, while wasting £2 on Companies House, nor the address of the Semi-detached house in Barnet, in which our moneyman lives. Suffice it to say that, for the money that Mark Fry is charging, he could have afforded the £2 and saved everyone attached to the club a small fortune. All that is left is to wonder in which manner Tony Lynam is going to be ridden out of town. I must admit, I am totally against lynch mobs, but I must admit, I'm tempted to take a pitchfork and a short drive to Locks Heath. What a total, bullsh! tting, fantasist who has ruined a legends' reputation... No death on SSN tonight GM. Just you mate. Trying to assassinate the guy who is about to pour millions into our club. Am I surprised? Am I f**k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why. He was right once, the amount of crap he spouts law of averages says something will be proved true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I understand this was a straight cash payment as well. He is heavily involved in the Jewish community and has an alliance of influential and successful connections. Respectfully Spencer, "North London Yobbos" comes to mind and I quote a certain Harry Redknapp when he said: "Saints will be all right, a good friend of mind is about to step in and purchase them"!!! A case of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". or perhaps "Better the devil we knew than the devil we don't and won't know." A well known psychologist wrote[i]:" Never trust a person who wears mirror reflecting sunglasses for the eyes are the window of the soul and anyone who'd wish to conceal their soul cannot be trusted"[/i] I refer, Spencer, to a photo of your good friend, Mr Lynam in yesterdays Daily Echo, seen taliking to our Saints staff behind such sunglasses. Fellow Saints supporters, I would rather that we two finger the Football League, all those who have fed us lies and deceipt that has brought us to this sad day, and start over anew, completely anew, in the Blue Square League, but free, with a opportunity to rise out of the mire, without the burdens that the League and others would hang upon us. We shall return to the Top flight far quicker than to end up like Luton, who have continued to go in the opposite direction, whose financial stability went from bad to worse. FREEDOM! The Blue Square League but capable of rising again with pride, and as true and free men of Southampton, living in the spirit of what our city was founded upon. We shall now bow down, be beaten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The guy has said all the right things on Sky. Hopefully they can close the deal because it seems like they are actually bothered on the football..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Respectfully Spencer, "North London Yobbos" comes to mind and I quote a certain Harry Redknapp when he said: "Saints will be all right, a good friend of mind is about to step in and purchase them"!!! A case of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". or perhaps "Better the devil we knew than the devil we don't and won't know." A well known psychologist wrote[i]:" Never trust a person who wears mirror reflecting sunglasses for the eyes are the window of the soul and anyone who'd wish to conceal their soul cannot be trusted"[/i] I refer, Spencer, to a photo of your good friend, Mr Lynam in yesterdays Daily Echo, seen taliking to our Saints staff behind such sunglasses. Fellow Saints supporters, I would rather that we two finger the Football League, all those who have fed us lies and deceipt that has brought us to this sad day, and start over anew, completely anew, in the Blue Square League, but free, with a opportunity to rise out of the mire, without the burdens that the League and others would hang upon us. We shall return to the Top flight far quicker than to end up like Luton, who have continued to go in the opposite direction, whose financial stability went from bad to worse. FREEDOM! The Blue Square League but capable of rising again with pride, and as true and free men of Southampton, living in the spirit of what our city was founded upon. We shall now bow down, be beaten! Do they have a priory in france Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Respectfully Spencer, "North London Yobbos" comes to mind and I quote a certain Harry Redknapp when he said: "Saints will be all right, a good friend of mind is about to step in and purchase them"!!! A case of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". or perhaps "Better the devil we knew than the devil we don't and won't know." A well known psychologist wrote[i]:" Never trust a person who wears mirror reflecting sunglasses for the eyes are the window of the soul and anyone who'd wish to conceal their soul cannot be trusted"[/i] I refer, Spencer, to a photo of your good friend, Mr Lynam in yesterdays Daily Echo, seen taliking to our Saints staff behind such sunglasses. Fellow Saints supporters, I would rather that we two finger the Football League, all those who have fed us lies and deceipt that has brought us to this sad day, and start over anew, completely anew, in the Blue Square League, but free, with a opportunity to rise out of the mire, without the burdens that the League and others would hang upon us. We shall return to the Top flight far quicker than to end up like Luton, who have continued to go in the opposite direction, whose financial stability went from bad to worse. FREEDOM! The Blue Square League but capable of rising again with pride, and as true and free men of Southampton, living in the spirit of what our city was founded upon. We shall now bow down, be beaten! Who will be out owner? Where will we play? Can't really see us affording a prem stadium in the BS league. How would we rise to the prem with no decent stadium or cash behind us? I've seen the interview now and I think he comes across as a genuine bloke. Let's see where we go. We can do nothing but sit back and watch anyway. No point whinging about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Respectfully Spencer, "North London Yobbos" comes to mind and I quote a certain Harry Redknapp when he said: "Saints will be all right, a good friend of mind is about to step in and purchase them"!!! A case of "Out of the frying pan and into the fire". or perhaps "Better the devil we knew than the devil we don't and won't know." A well known psychologist wrote[i]:" Never trust a person who wears mirror reflecting sunglasses for the eyes are the window of the soul and anyone who'd wish to conceal their soul cannot be trusted"[/i] I refer, Spencer, to a photo of your good friend, Mr Lynam in yesterdays Daily Echo, seen taliking to our Saints staff behind such sunglasses. Fellow Saints supporters, I would rather that we two finger the Football League, all those who have fed us lies and deceipt that has brought us to this sad day, and start over anew, completely anew, in the Blue Square League, but free, with a opportunity to rise out of the mire, without the burdens that the League and others would hang upon us. We shall return to the Top flight far quicker than to end up like Luton, who have continued to go in the opposite direction, whose financial stability went from bad to worse. FREEDOM! The Blue Square League but capable of rising again with pride, and as true and free men of Southampton, living in the spirit of what our city was founded upon. We shall now bow down, be beaten! Completely crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 "Fialka, who helped to fund the payment of staff wages at Southampton this week" From the link to sky, have staff been paid then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why. Not having a pot to **** in wasn't the problem with Wilde. It was more how he allowed total strangers to become execs and in time they hijacked SFC. You have to ask the question if its that simple to access details then what the feck have begbies traynor been doing for 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not having a pot to **** in wasn't the problem with Wilde. It was more how he allowed total strangers to become execs and in time they hijacked SFC. You have to ask the question if its that simple to access details then what the feck have begbies traynor been doing for 3 months. Billing Barclays.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 "Fialka, who helped to fund the payment of staff wages at Southampton this week" From the link to sky, have staff been paid then ? According to Duncan (on the Fry speak up thread) that's a No (as of 9:30 pm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 According to Duncan (on the Fry speak up thread) that's a No (as of 9:30 pm). Where do Sky get that from then ? does go on to say wages will be paid after a second read but misleading all the same. Do some of his associates need to be named to stamp out further questioning over his ability to see this through ? if he has a bit of fold but some pals with a load of fold then great, it has been suggested Fry has identified proof of funds so are we just worrying needlessly ? 'they' have spent a 7 figure sum already so are we worrying needlessly ? Irrespective, staff need to be paid wages so...Pinnacle, Swiss, Fry lets get these guys paid and argue with the FA another day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I don't think there's such a thing as "worrying needlessly" when payroll is missed - especially when it raises the possibility of breach of contract and the loss of players to other clubs (who are probably circling like vultures). The phrase also doesn't apply to the everyday folks at the club who need to pay mortgages and put food on the table. I'm willing to be patient on this but missing payroll is a really, really bad sign. The mixed signals don't help one little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 said on south today about beach of contract but I am sure remember from another club that this doesn't kick in until later - there is some slack given to club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 said on south today about beach of contract but I am sure remember from another club that this doesn't kick in until later - there is some slack given to club I sure hope so, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I don't think there's such a thing as "worrying needlessly" when payroll is missed - especially when it raises the possibility of breach of contract and the loss of players to other clubs (who are probably circling like vultures). The phrase also doesn't apply to the everyday folks at the club who need to pay mortgages and put food on the table. I'm willing to be patient on this but missing payroll is a really, really bad sign. The mixed signals don't help one little bit. Payroll normally takes two/three days to go through a bank, so this didn't come as a shock to anyone in the know today, sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 thought he came across pretty well I think referring to staff missing pay day as "a funny one" is not coming accross well to me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 post of the day. Lock the whole forum. We can take no more Well, if they don't, let's all leave it for 24 hours. There's naff all we can do about it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Dunno about a death on Sky sport but on Sky news... michael Jackson dead! Cardiac arrest. Shocker! Wonder if they'll be refunding those concert tickets?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just a ploy to get out of performing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 You have to be careful what you wish for when starting a thread - not the death you were expecting i'll wager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I Would Like To Say That This Isn't The Death Of Saints As I Think That The Pinnacle Group Will Eventually Take Over Especially With Havin MLT On Board Will Give Mostt Of Us A Huge Dose Of Confidence As I Can See Good Things For Saints If This Happens But We'l See ! Saints Till I Die !!It must be a pain having to use a capital letter at the start of every word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 ....but I think we witnessed one tonight. The death of the Pinnacle bid, I mean. I am not even going to bother to post the information I gained, while wasting £2 on Companies House, nor the address of the Semi-detached house in Barnet, in which our moneyman lives. Suffice it to say that, for the money that Mark Fry is charging, he could have afforded the £2 and saved everyone attached to the club a small fortune. All that is left is to wonder in which manner Tony Lynam is going to be ridden out of town. I must admit, I am totally against lynch mobs, but I must admit, I'm tempted to take a pitchfork and a short drive to Locks Heath. What a total, bullsh! tting, fantasist who has ruined a legends' reputation... Can somebody tell me why this idiot is always so cryptic? Can he not just get his point across like a normal poster instead of trying to make himself sound smart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 ....but I think we witnessed one tonight. The death of the Pinnacle bid, I mean. I am not even going to bother to post the information then goes onto type his lengthy thoughts without info which he can be bother to do! ... you do wonder why>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just a ploy to get out of performing IMO. They did say coma but nothing confirmed. It's never black and white! *gets coat* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 No death on SSN tonight GM. Just you mate. Trying to assassinate the guy who is about to pour millions into our club. Am I surprised? Am I f**k! There aren't many people on here calling GM a troll this morning I wonder why? The Pinnacle deals seems to be an utter fiasco. Clearly Mr Fialka is not the main backer. I for one would like to know who is trying to buy the club that I love. A buy out by a load of shady North London businessmen would not inspire me even if it did happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 The only serious bidders for this club apart from Lowe have been a financially troubled builder in taX exile, a hedge fund , a photocopier salesman and now a letting agent Anyone else fancy a punt !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 There aren't many people on here calling GM a troll this morning I wonder why? The Pinnacle deals seems to be an utter fiasco. Clearly Mr Fialka is not the main backer. I for one would like to know who is trying to buy the club that I love. A buy out by a load of shady North London businessmen would not inspire me even if it did happen. I'd imagine because it's still too early. People are either just starting at work or having a lie in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 There aren't many people on here calling GM a troll this morning I wonder why? The Pinnacle deals seems to be an utter fiasco. Clearly Mr Fialka is not the main backer. I for one would like to know who is trying to buy the club that I love. A buy out by a load of shady North London businessmen would not inspire me even if it did happen. Maybe because your sensationalist, prejudiced nonsense is not worthy of a response?? Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Yeah, he's still an attention-seeking troll, and it still isn't worth another thread, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Originally Posted by St Landrew I'm beginning to get a a little p!ssed off myself. Not with Pinnacle, or with other potential bidders, but with the smart-arsed posters on here. You know who you are. You find an angle and exploit it. What is the matter with you..? Are you so committed to finding fault that all you can do is criticise..? What does it gain you other than being right if what you say comes true..? Will you be equally forthright in saying you were wrong if a takeover goes through..? For pete's sake, go and take up another hobby until the new season. It'll save me the trouble of reading this twaddle. I was refraining from putting up something similar. Reading some the friggin stupid comments on here have made me cringe. When we were in the prem, we had Lowe, in the CC we had Wilde, and neither had a pot to **** in and never put any money into the club. This guy turns up and looking at company reports has sold just one of his companies for £39m and might just save us and he is the ****ing antichrist! So when will people be happy? Paul Allen as Moneyman Jose as Manager and Ronaldo as first signing We are a league one team now! and might not be if this doesnt get sorted unless he turns out to be some sort of Knighton If you can explain why anyone in their right mind, who was totally serious about buying Saints, would put it all in jeopardy over a minor point that has absolutely no practical chance of success, then you have a point? You do not go this far then allow someone else the opportunity of stepping in if you are serious! Something is very wrong here and we are just hoping that it goes through, but the possible ramifications of the deal breaking down could easily be the liquidation of Saints. I am no fan of Jackson and understand exactly what he represents, but at the present time the current logic makes it very hard to differentiate. The vast majority of sensible fans would be absolutely delighted to start on -10 points, no debts and all our facilities, forget about investment in the team or Keegan. But someone has stoked up the muppets with talk of Keegan and a 5 year premier plan. When we wasted £40M over the last couple of years in delivering ourselves to this position, where were the protestations then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 If you can explain why anyone in their right mind, who was totally serious about buying Saints, would put it all in jeopardy over a minor point that has absolutely no practical chance of success, then you have a point? You do not go this far then allow someone else the opportunity of stepping in if you are serious! Something is very wrong here and we are just hoping that it goes through, but the possible ramifications of the deal breaking down could easily be the liquidation of Saints. I am no fan of Jackson and understand exactly what he represents, but at the present time the current logic makes it very hard to differentiate. The vast majority of sensible fans would be absolutely delighted to start on -10 points, no debts and all our facilities, forget about investment in the team or Keegan. But someone has stoked up the muppets with talk of Keegan and a 5 year premier plan. When we wasted £40M over the last couple of years in delivering ourselves to this position, where were the protestations then?Fry has a big problem now i would assume, he has not got a buyer and Barclays and Aviva who were expecting to get 10-12m will be looking at best 5m. The fans will now be looking just to have a club even if it means -25, so perhaps a couple of non fan bidders will now see a wonderful opportunity, buy a good asset for say £5-6m, the club will survive and we will accept -25 and not complain, in fact be grateful!!! I wonder how MR Fry at barclays will be seen by his bosses after not supporting us late last season.The overdraft that was coming down and payments being met and now they will get very little returned,Lol and hi m a saints fan well done Fry at Barclays and people said agent Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Whatever you think about John (GM) he was right about Wilde not having a pot to p!ss in, so why do people think he's wrong now? Desperation, that's why. I can remember anyone saying Wilde was minted in the first place, but I do remember a load of discussions about whether they had promised investment or just promised to try and find investment in the "manifesto" which means it was out there from the start that Wilde may not have been putting in his own money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 what he did miss was the property recently purchased i st johns wood for 39 million pound I understand this was a straight cash payment as well. So, is this what someone has told you Farmer? If so, who did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Just imagine if they regularly showed deaths on Sky Sports News...there'd be an uproar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 The best thing that could happen here is for the MODS to close the forum until the takeover has been completed. We're all going crazy! I think we could all do with a break from it. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 No death on SSN tonight GM. Just you mate. Trying to assassinate the guy who is about to pour millions into our club. Am I surprised? Am I f**k! Do you still stand by that now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Completely crackers. Alors, who is completely quackers? Certainly not Guided_Missile or myself.. Why, the misrepresentation of Pinnacle is more than likely to be waiting on the completion of the sale of the Rust Bowl in order to get any further with purchasing St Mary's. No wonder the Football League have put their oar in due to conflict of interest. Gaymarec never wished to pay out for a new Rust Bowl but his North London cultural partnerssee an easy option in merging clubs and using St Mary's. How long did Sheiki baby say it would be to complete his takeover? Another two weeks? Mandarec Duck is indeed showing who are twooly quackers whilst Harry and he have shot Saints well and truly through the foot this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Quite honestly when someone is put forward as the money man and you can find very little about him it does start alarm bells going. Give the media a bit of time and they will no doubt turn over some stones. Is this why the "investor" did not want to go public but panic started to set in, wages were not paid and he was forced into the public domain. Will the full scrutiny of the media proving he was not what he told Pinnacle? Let's hope GM is wrong this time but I am beginning to worry he is on the button again. Gm on the button again? The first time he was only on the button because we failed to get promotion in our 7m spending season. Do you think Gm would have been "on the button" had we been in the premier league the following season with all the sky money? IMHO it was a lucky guess and He is once again guessing! He took MW's company accounts and came to the conclusion that he would fail, what he didn't take into account is that MW was just a sh1t businessman! GM may get lucky again, but I am sure he is the only one that will be happy about that! (ok maybe Jonah!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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