TopGun Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 As the question says. Thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Say you have 700 million pounds. I'm guessing you've probably already explored all the other 'safe' investment options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Passion, ego, foolishness ?? Personally i think saints are quite a good investment and football teams you 'can' make a lot of money out of it. There's not a lot of other big investments at the mo. IMHO (and probably incorrect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Both above posts I agree with but still not proper investment sense. Saints are prob worth a punt for profit in L1 as they could be sold for more in PL but still a risk unless in it for love or to use the club as a marketing vehicle locally for something else. Chelsea/Man U etc are just marketing vehicles/personal whims but even they are loaded with debt transferred on to the club by their speculative owners. In these economic times I think I would build or buy a power plant that would give me guaranteed income for 25 years and no worries about people, media, fans, players etc. I must be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Both above posts I agree with but still not proper investment sense. Saints are prob worth a punt for profit in L1 as they could be sold for more in PL but still a risk unless in it for love or to use the club as a marketing vehicle locally for something else. Chelsea/Man U etc are just marketing vehicles/personal whims but even they are loaded with debt transferred on to the club by their speculative owners. In these economic times I think I would build or buy a power plant that would give me guaranteed income for 25 years and no worries about people, media, fans, players etc. I must be mad. Cost shed loads, but agree worth an official outlay if you can cut through the red tape. May i suggest nuclear power, by far the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Cost shed loads, but agree worth an official outlay if you can cut through the red tape. May i suggest nuclear power, by far the best I was thinking of starting small... just one or two hydro/tidal/wave machines... But with Saints, I have long thought that it could work as a successful vehicle for a large shipping company that wants more European portside space. For example, Hutchison Whampoa are a big Chinese shipping company who regularly lament the lack of Euro facilities for their long haul shipping interests. Plenty of redundant or under used/underdeveloped dock space at Southampton... buy the club; get the local stakeholder buy in; buy or lease port land; develop it; create jobs. Everyone's a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I was thinking of starting small... just one or two hydro/tidal/wave machines... But with Saints, I have long thought that it could work as a successful vehicle for a large shipping company that wants more European portside space. For example, Hutchison Whampoa are a big Chinese shipping company who regularly lament the lack of Euro facilities for their long haul shipping interests. Plenty of redundant or under used/underdeveloped dock space at Southampton... buy the club; get the local stakeholder buy in; buy or lease port land; develop it; create jobs. Everyone's a winner! Can see your point ?? I have always thought buying saints especially now would be a good option. What with the city going through positive change. But hmm, where you gonna build hydro ?? Off the top of portsdown hill ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Can see your point ?? I have always thought buying saints especially now would be a good option. What with the city going through positive change. But hmm, where you gonna build hydro ?? Off the top of portsdown hill ?? Well, hydro needs a bit of gravity for sure. But wave and tidal don't. I just need to check it out a bit more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 When you reach a certain level of wealth making more wealth adds nothing to your life. You can only live in one house at a time and drive one car at a time and go on one holiday at a time. Owning a football club is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 (edited) When you reach a certain level of wealth making more wealth adds nothing to your life. You can only live in one house at a time and drive one car at a time and go on one holiday at a time. Owning a football club is something different. That's a view I wholly accept also. Which puts vain-glorious egos like Mike Wilde into context also. It's a mistake Saints must learn from. Although who are Saints to check that at the moment... It also hasn't stopped Abramavich loading Chelsea with football-related debt so if he were to sell the club they could be back where they were or even worse. Edited 24 June, 2009 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 If I had that much money the first thing I'd buy is a football club. Might not be 'safe' but it would be well fun, controlling your own club. I would be player, manager, chairman and owner all at the same time, and I would become a club hero, because I said so as owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 If I had that much money the first thing I'd buy is a football club. Might not be 'safe' but it would be well fun, controlling your own club. I would be player, manager, chairman and owner all at the same time, and I would become a club hero, because I said so as owner.[/QUOTE] Hello and goodbye Mike Wilde!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I was thinking of starting small... just one or two hydro/tidal/wave machines... But with Saints, I have long thought that it could work as a successful vehicle for a large shipping company that wants more European portside space. For example, Hutchison Whampoa are a big Chinese shipping company who regularly lament the lack of Euro facilities for their long haul shipping interests. Plenty of redundant or under used/underdeveloped dock space at Southampton... buy the club; get the local stakeholder buy in; buy or lease port land; develop it; create jobs. Everyone's a winner! Hutchinson Whampoa re into container terminals. They currently own Felixstowe and are spending money extending their facilities there. Their main rival Dubai Ports own 51% of the Soton Container Terminal. HW are unlikely to have any interest in Soton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 because they can? is that not the long and short of it? Abramovich has got two ent he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 If I had that much money the first thing I'd buy is a football club. Might not be 'safe' but it would be well fun, controlling your own club. I would be player, manager, chairman and owner all at the same time, and I would become a club hero, because I said so as owner. If you could manage all this with Saints and today...The no.7 shirt is your property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Milan Mandaric did rather well out of Pompey, and is going the same way with Leicester City. It's worth a go with the right club, and Saints have all the costly infrastructure in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 TBF with that money I would short the stock market. http://api.ning.com/files/rpXomaZgSxZMBcrKz0pdxNtC7gwXNo6TkyxH7fqx6zKx5sMkRIx4YAkjQoGV0*pVfucudf6yeZz33nNtbNplx6BluL78Spb5/ewttmr.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Hutchinson Whampoa re into container terminals. They currently own Felixstowe and are spending money extending their facilities there. Their main rival Dubai Ports own 51% of the Soton Container Terminal. HW are unlikely to have any interest in Soton Good thing I said "for example" then, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Top Gun Quite right and I was trying to explain why, in a factual way, that particular example is unlikely to work. Fill in some background details and all that. You get my drift!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Something you can do to keep your mind busy. I am sure you would get bored being stupidly rich because you have done everything within life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Top Gun Quite right and I was trying to explain why, in a factual way, that particular example is unlikely to work. Fill in some background details and all that. You get my drift!! Fair point. I'll stick to my original scheme of a biomass-fired power station on underused portside land after all! The wood fuel comes off the ship, gets stored, gets burnt, power is made, I sell it to the Grid as a renewable option for consumers! Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 kudos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Fair point. I'll stick to my original scheme of a biomass-fired power station on underused portside land after all! The wood fuel comes off the ship, gets stored, gets burnt, power is made, I sell it to the Grid as a renewable option for consumers! Happy days! Actually this has been proposed and a site allocated for a CHP plant up in the W Dks providing power and also hot water to Millbrook Estate However cost of setting up and operating is quite high and needs to be amortised over 20+ years. Unfortunately the prospective operator has yet to find a renewable power source provider (such as Biomass) which can guarantee supply for 5 yrs let alone 20. May change in future, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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