Mole Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I don't often use the word dumb ass, I will today I would never use an American term. It says a lot about you that such terms form a part of your every day vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I don't often use the word dumb ass, I will today It says a lot about you that such terms form a part of your every day vocabulary. What didn't you understand about the "I don't often use" bit ? you keep on like this and it will be part of my every day vocabulary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I pray you never have kids if this is how you feel about them. Not all kids, obviously, d*cksplash. However, it is a fact that there are some pikey kids who, sadly, will never make anything of their life. Teaching these mongs and losers cannot be enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Exactly. Bit like people in the Forces moaning that nobody appreciates what they do for little money. Nobody is forced to do any job. How many times do you hear people in the Forces going on strike or moaning about their pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 How many times do you hear people in the Forces going on strike or moaning about their pay? To be fair you'd have to be pretty stupid to form a picket line outsie a base in Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I teach maths in a FE setting and earn very good money doing so in addition to having uber amounts of holiday. Having worked in state secondary schools for over 10 years I have to say that those folk seriously earn their money in an environment where discipline is a thing of the past. I love my job and mock the thick mongs with their 28 days a year annual leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 How many times do you hear people in the Forces going on strike or moaning about their pay? Maybe they should, then they'd get better housing and pensions and whatnot when they came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 To be fair you'd have to be pretty stupid to form a picket line outsie a base in Afghanistan. Well O.K Mr Pedant.... how many people based on these shores have gone on strike? How many people moan about their wages? They don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Well O.K Mr Pedant.... how many people based on these shores have gone on strike? How many people moan about their wages? They don't. To be fair there are a number of people who have gone 'on strike' in all but name. Granted it doesn't happen on a mass scale, but all those individual 'awols' add up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 However, it is a fact that there are some pikey kids who, sadly, will never make anything of their life. Teaching these mongs and losers cannot be enjoyable. It often isn't but occasionally you can overcome the ****ty parenting and get some kids to not emulate their parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 To be fair there are a number of people who have gone 'on strike' in all but name. Granted it doesn't happen on a mass scale, but all those individual 'awols' add up.... Weston, you are a smart chap... but I am concerned that you don't know the definition of going 'on strike' and the difference between striking and someone walking out on their job... which is exactly what 'awol' is... difference being that you have to give a minimum of 1 years notice in the forces... some people don't want to work it. Have you ever left a job without working your notice? If so, is that 'going on strike' ? Here's one definition a group's refusal to work in protest against low pay or bad work conditions Please take note of the word 'group' . :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 (edited) Teachers are generally thick left wingers like the majority who post on this forum. In essence they are the quitisential Guardian reader. Children have little chance of growing up properly being tought by such mongs. If they were as smart as they think they are they would get a proper job. And for one poster to suggest they work hard is scandalous - they spend half their life on holiday. Excuse me? ANYONE in my opinion who claims they do not work hard is talking absolute bull****. My other half works solidly 7am-6pm and then when she comes home, she eats dinner and then spends another 2-3 hours marking work. Yes, holiday is generous, but trust me, half of it is spent in preparing for next year. Yes, there are people in life who work AS hard/harder, but (apart from nurses and the armed forces) their pay is MUCH higher. People like you don't have a clue you jumped up little ****. Edited 25 June, 2009 by Thorpe-le-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 She doesn't have to deal with it every day though, does she? For a start she has 13 weeks holiday a year, not bad eh? Oh, and if she is in a school where all the kids kick, scream, punch and bite every day, then can I suggest that she finds a job in another school..... If she does it for her 'real value' of the job, then I suspect she doesn't care about the money, as a result, she wouldn't be wanting you speaking for her, would she? Nobody is forced to do any job. that's a bit rich coming from someone who has on NUMEROUS occasions told us all how hard his other half (mental health nurse,yeh?) works, and all the sh1t she has to deal with on a daily basis , and all but insisted that we respect what she has chosen to do etc,etc. is this not a rather hypocritical statement SRS ? (And btw, i absolutely agree with you that it does seem like EVERY week, there is a letter coming home asking for a donation towards this, or a donation towards that!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Weston, you are a smart chap... but I am concerned that you don't know the definition of going 'on strike' and the difference between striking and someone walking out on their job... which is exactly what 'awol' is... difference being that you have to give a minimum of 1 years notice in the forces... some people don't want to work it. Have you ever left a job without working your notice? If so, is that 'going on strike' ? Here's one definition a group's refusal to work in protest against low pay or bad work conditions Please take note of the word 'group' . :-) I am very aware of the difference I'm also very aware that there is a law in place that states it is illegal for members of the armed forces to take 'strike' action. Thus, the only 'protest' they have left at their disposal is to go 'awol'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Squaddies wouldn't know how to organise a strike. They'd need someone with a different hat to them to tell them to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 June, 2009 [/b] that's a bit rich coming from someone who has on NUMEROUS occasions told us all how hard his other half (mental health nurse,yeh?) works, and all the sh1t she has to deal with on a daily basis , and all but insisted that we respect what she has chosen to do etc,etc. is this not a rather hypocritical statement SRS ? (And btw, i absolutely agree with you that it does seem like EVERY week, there is a letter coming home asking for a donation towards this, or a donation towards that!) No, I have used my ex job and my missus current job as examples of industries which are not massively well paid but they don't sit there and moan about it. I never demanded respect for her job, just stated that you don't see nurses walking out over pay and conditions like the Fire Service did... which is why I fookin hate the Fire Service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 No, I have used my ex job and my missus current job as examples of industries which are not massively well paid but they don't sit there and moan about it. I never demanded respect for her job, just stated that you don't see nurses walking out over pay and conditions like the Fire Service did... which is why I fookin hate the Fire Service. Good for you. Don't criticise others for having a bit of backbone though. A lot of nurses work for agencies now. They get paid more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) Squaddies wouldn't know how to organise a strike. They'd need someone with a different hat to them to tell them to do it. To be fair, your average union leader wouldn't know what to do with an advancing enemy armed with AK47's and RPGs. They would probably hold up a few placards with "Sack the Taleban", whilst complaining about working conditions and how they get shot at. Never been in the armed forces, but have immense respect for them. As SRS says, you don't like it, you leave. Edited 25 June, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 To be fair, your average union leader wouldn't know what to do with an advancing enemy armed with AK47's and RPGs. They would probably hold up a few placards with "Sack the Taleban", whilst complaining about working conditions and how they get shot at. Never been in the armed forces, but have immense respect for them. As SRS says, you don't like it, you leave. After reading the your first paragraph, I must say I found this highlighted part a complete surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 To be fair, your average union leader wouldn't know what to do with an advancing enemy armed with AK47's and RPGs. They would probably hold up a few placards with "Sack the Taleban", whilst complaining about working conditions and how they get shot at. Never been in the armed forces, but have immense respect for them. As SRS says, you don't like it, you leave. Only, with that attitude we'd still have Victorian working conditions and pay. I'd rather stand up for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 After reading the your first paragraph, I must say I found this highlighted part a complete surprise. After reading your first six words, I decided the sentence made no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 After reading the your first paragraph, I must say I found this highlighted part a complete surprise. It is called respect you **** head - something you will never understand. Go back to belittling the mentally disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 To be fair there are a number of people who have gone 'on strike' in all but name. Granted it doesn't happen on a mass scale, but all those individual 'awols' add up.... The number of awols ihas very little to do with pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The number of awols ihas very little to do with pay I imagine them mainly being to do with conditions [and treatment] to be fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Only, with that attitude we'd still have Victorian working conditions and pay. I'd rather stand up for myself. The Victorians had no choice, it was work or starve. However there are far more working opportunities for everyone nowadays. Yes, the barrow boy can make it to the top in whatever field. By leaving your employment for another job, you are standing up for yourself and giving your previous employer the two fingered salute. Would you stay with your mrs if she was ****ting on you to "stand up for yourself" by complaining? Or, would you tell her to **** off and go find another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The Victorians had no choice, it was work or starve. However there are far more working opportunities for everyone nowadays. Yes, the barrow boy can make it to the top in whatever field. By leaving your employment for another job, you are standing up for yourself and giving your previous employer the two fingered salute. Would you stay with your mrs if she was ****ting on you to "stand up for yourself" by complaining? Or, would you tell her to **** off and go find another one? Trouble is not everyone has it in them to get to the top. We can't all be bosses, there will always be haves and have nots. To anyone who works their way to the top I take my hat off to them. Just as I take my hat off to the bloke who stays in the same job for 30 years. No point slagging people off for legitimate protests and concerns. Your analogy is garbage as well. By leaving your employment for another job you are running away. If the school bully beats you up every playtime, is the answer to try and hide from him every day - or stand up to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Teachers are generally thick left wingers like the majority who post on this forum. In essence they are the quitisential Guardian reader. Children have little chance of growing up properly being tought by such mongs. If they were as smart as they think they are they would get a proper job. And for one poster to suggest they work hard is scandalous - they spend half their life on holiday. Teacher says - Spelling 7/10, must do better. "Stanley by any other name" is a myopic little, worm eating, creature whose belly scrapes along the ground, and which hides underground for most of it's life. Did you spend a lot of your school time being beaten up behind the bike sheds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) Trouble is not everyone has it in them to get to the top. We can't all be bosses, there will always be haves and have nots. To anyone who works their way to the top I take my hat off to them. Just as I take my hat off to the bloke who stays in the same job for 30 years. No point slagging people off for legitimate protests and concerns. Your analogy is garbage as well. By leaving your employment for another job you are running away. If the school bully beats you up every playtime, is the answer to try and hide from him every day - or stand up to him? No your analagy is wrong. You have to go to school and can't leave, therefore you have stand up to the bully. In my analagy, you don't HAVE to be with the mrs and likewise you don't HAVE to work for a specific employer. It is all about attitude at the end of the day. When I was employed, I viewed it as my employer was lucky to employ my services (OK, they paid me for it), but by withdrawing my services, someone else would benefit and my previous employer would lose out. I wouldn't want to force them to employ me, even if I was **** at my job.....I've got too much pride to do that. There are things you need to stand up for and there are things you don't. I grew up with a metally disabled brother (hence my instant dislike of Kardeem ****head) and the bullying and ****taking was relentless - not only did I have to stick up for him, but I had to stick up for me too - it taught me a lot about life. So, stand and fight for the right things, whilst move on for others. As I say, it's all about attitude....... Edited 25 June, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 No your analagy is wrong. You have to go to school and can't leave, therefore you have stand up to the bully. In my analagy, you don't HAVE to be with the mrs and likewise you don't HAVE to work for a specific employer. It is all about attitude at the end of the day. When I was employed, I viewed it as my employer was lucky to employ my services (OK, they paid me for it), but by withdrawing my services, someone else would benefit and my previous employer would lose out. I wouldn't want to force them to employ me, even if I was **** at my job.....I've got too much pride to do that. There are things you need to stand up for and there are things you don't. I grew up with a metally disabled brother (hence my instant dislike of Kardeem ****head) and the bullying and ****taking was relentless - not only did I have to stick up for him, but I had to stick up for me too - it taught me a lot about life. So, stand and fight for the right things, whilst move on for others. As I say, it's all about attitude....... So standing up and fighting for your rights in a job that you've worked in all your life isn't worth it? B*llocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Exactly, teachers don't HAVE to, but who's gonna knock a free trip to France eh? Especially when the kids are 'supervised' by the on-site staff.... so there is very little for them to do... If it wasn't a jolly for them, then they wouldnt be pushing it so hard... especially when for less money, there was an option in the UK they could have pushed. my word, what are you on? i know let's get rid of teachers and schools, then lets see how your kids turn out? probably just like you by the sounds of it!! people need schooling, and for schools to work they need teachers, this is expensive, get over it! i dont know about anyone else, but with the amount of health and safety regs, and all the guidelines on the procedures a teachers has to follow to step foot into a classroom, i would hardly describe taking a bunch of unruly junior school kids abroad for a week as a jolly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 It's nothing new. When I was in primary/secondary education in the 60's and 70's, my schools would write to my parents suggesting it might be a good idea if they paid for this trip, or that optional extra. My father just said, no, can't afford it. End of story. You don't have to shell out the money. Nobody is ordering you to. Be selective. EDIT: Think twice about having the next kid, eh..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 So standing up and fighting for your rights in a job that you've worked in all your life isn't worth it? B*llocks. You have no rights to a pay rise, you have to earn it, but that doesn't stop the unions bullying employers. You don't have rights to be employed elsewhere in an organisation when your fixed term contract comes to an end, but doesn't stop employees breaking the law to make a point. You don't have rights when it comes to preventing other people working, based on where they come from (when they have a legal right to as members of the EU) as this amounts to racist bullying. So what "rights" exactly are the unions fighting for at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 my word, what are you on? i know let's get rid of teachers and schools, then lets see how your kids turn out? probably just like you by the sounds of it!! people need schooling, and for schools to work they need teachers, this is expensive, get over it! i dont know about anyone else, but with the amount of health and safety regs, and all the guidelines on the procedures a teachers has to follow to step foot into a classroom, i would hardly describe taking a bunch of unruly junior school kids abroad for a week as a jolly? Exactly, my missus took 20 Year 9s to Television Centre the other week. It sounded like an absolute nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSt.Matt Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 the other week we had to go and buy her a wooden spoon ( for a couple of quid ) ..... only to have to buy it back at the summer fayre for 10p!!! ( don't think whoever came up with that idea will be winning the apprentice ) I think they might actually. Rinsing cash out of a mug like you, for something you've already paid for, is exactly the sort that gets Sugar off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 You have no rights to a pay rise, you have to earn it, but that doesn't stop the unions bullying employers. You don't have rights to be employed elsewhere in an organisation when your fixed term contract comes to an end, but doesn't stop employees breaking the law to make a point. You don't have rights when it comes to preventing other people working, based on where they come from (when they have a legal right to as members of the EU) as this amounts to racist bullying. So what "rights" exactly are the unions fighting for at the moment? I think you are too easily influenced by the Daily Mail. Never read so much tripe in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) I think you are too easily influenced by the Daily Mail. Never read so much tripe in my life. I assume you mean the Daily Mail (), as my post (to which you responded) only contains facts: FACT 1 - You don't have any right to a pay rise (as long as your pay is greater than the minimum wage) FACT 2 - You don't have rights to alternative employment in a given organisation when on a fixed contract FACT 3 - You don't have the right to prevent other EU workers from taking your job The problem with Socialist Worker readers () and unions in general, is that they become self delusional, ignore the facts and think they are still living in the 1970's Edited 25 June, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What didn't you understand about the "I don't often use" bit ? you keep on like this and it will be part of my every day vocabulary Shut up your face. It's just an internet forum! BRAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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