Money-Grabbing ***ts....

[StuRomseySaint]

... yes you guessed it, I am talking about Junior Schools...

 

Is it just my step-daughters Junior School or is it all schools in the area that send letters asking for money for something every f*cking week?

 

We are already shelling out £400 on some pointless week trip to France next year, but the f*ckers send letters back asking for money every f*cking week.

 

Do the schools not have any money themselves to be able to pay for some of the trips the kids go on? If it's not money then it's food, or bottles or some other claptrap... the other week we had to go and buy her a wooden spoon ( for a couple of quid ) ..... only to have to buy it back at the summer fayre for 10p!!! ( don't think whoever came up with that idea will be winning the apprentice )

 

Now seeing as so much of my money goes on paying for layabout Uni students to do pointless courses, couldnt my tax money be put into primary education rather than paying for Uni dossers?

 

Are other schools in the area so demanding for cash?

[benjii]

No Stu, it's only the mong schools.

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

You are quite right Stu: Why isn't more taxpayers money being put into education?

 

Forget Uni students, it is those money grabbing sods in Buck House that I'm mad at.

 

Taxpayers paid an extra 25% towards the upkeep of Charles last year...now wouldn't that 25% have been put to better use in education?

[Thedelldays]

You are quite right Stu: Why isn't more taxpayers money being put into education?

 

Forget Uni students, it is those money grabbing sods in Buck House that I'm mad at.

 

Taxpayers paid an extra 25% towards the upkeep of Charles last year...now wouldn't that 25% have been put to better use in education?

hmm...that extra 500k he got probably made itself back 5 fold in terms of over seas investment that he would have tied up in his official visits..

 

(no doubt BTF and co will deny this and pull out all sorts of facts and figures from anywhere to suggest otherwise)

[benjii]

Unless the money is used to pay teachers a lot more and recruit the best people (from university, of course), then schools will continue to be the career-play ground of: the uninspired; the plaid target-driven; the intellectually moribund; the unambitious and the unaspirational.

[Redbul]

I feel your pain Stu, we have begging letters from our youngest's junior school and our girls secondary school.

 

I know, now hear me out, this might seem a bit radical, why don't we pay a certain amount of money out of our incomes that will pay for state education and then.....oh, hang on a minute.....

[1976_Child]

... yes you guessed it, I am talking about Junior Schools...

 

Is it just my step-daughters Junior School or is it all schools in the area that send letters asking for money for something every f*cking week?

 

We are already shelling out £400 on some pointless week trip to France next year, but the f*ckers send letters back asking for money every f*cking week.

 

Do the schools not have any money themselves to be able to pay for some of the trips the kids go on? If it's not money then it's food, or bottles or some other claptrap... the other week we had to go and buy her a wooden spoon ( for a couple of quid ) ..... only to have to buy it back at the summer fayre for 10p!!! ( don't think whoever came up with that idea will be winning the apprentice )

 

Now seeing as so much of my money goes on paying for layabout Uni students to do pointless courses, couldnt my tax money be put into primary education rather than paying for Uni dossers?

 

Are other schools in the area so demanding for cash?

 

Ahh! At last something to get my angry ****ed off political teeth into!

 

Education, education, education. New Liebour's show piece. Cornerstone of their manifesto. ****ing utter waste of time, effort and energy.

 

Here is my education manifesto:

 

1. Any education manifesto that does not, right at the outset, acknowledge the Golden Fact is doomed to failure. The Golden Fact: some kids are Einstein-bright, some are Plan©k-thick. With out this truth written clear at the top of every page of the manifesto we will always have a sub-standard schooling system.

 

2. Centralised, socialised education policy is about as useful as Gordon Brown's budget calculator.

 

3. The asumption that 50% of school leavers should attend 'Uni' and rack up stupendous debts just to please some over-paid box-ticker in Whitehall is just pure bastard stupid init.

 

4. A teacher should be able to walk into a class room and expect all the pupils (not 'students') to stand up and shut up. Failure to comply should be met with a sound caning.

 

5. The basic 'operating system' of each and every child should include: English (written, read and spoken), mathematics (basic everyday maths), history (not of some far away tribe, but of the nation they are born into), geography (a knowledge of the world map, countries and capitals), science (an appreciation of the empirical method and the basic laws of nature).

 

There is no need to fill the curriculum with advice on how to fist a badger, dress your sister in a burka, use a condom at the ripe old age of six and other such pinko-liberal nonsense. Just give the kid the basic operating system and then cut them loose.

 

6. School uniform should be mandatory. Failure to comply should result in a sound caning.

 

7. Unruly, rude or violent parents should be shot. There is no place for pikeys in this world, let alone in a school.

 

8. Primary schools should never ask hard working, tax paying parents to give even more.

[Weston Super Saint]

Try running a business!

 

You get begging letters from ALL the fecking junior schools, not just the ones your own kids go to.

 

There's a limit to how many school fetes I can muster up any sort of excitement for.

 

 

I'm not sure I should, but I do agree with almost all of your policies 1976....

Edited 23 June, 2009 by Weston Super Saint

[Mole]

Labour are the Party that introduced University fees which has made further education something only the priviledged can afford (unless students saddle themselves with years of debt).

 

Unforgiveable in my book.

[Redbul]

Labour are the Party that introduced University fees which has made further education something only the priviledged can afford (unless students saddle themselves with years of debt).

 

Unforgiveable in my book.

 

 

Ummm, are you sure it wasn't the Tories? Pretty sure educational apartheid was introduced under Maggie's watch.

[1976_Child]

Ummm, are you sure it wasn't the Tories? Pretty sure educational apartheid was introduced under Maggie's watch.

 

Nope. Maggie was evicted from the Big Brother house a long time before tuition fees.

 

And under New Liebour we now have 'postcode education apartheid'. At least in the 'good old days (sic)' if you were rich you went to private school and ended up in managment and if you were poor you went to the local comp and ended up on the factory floor and each had a meaningful job.

 

Now, thanks to the cancer of 'globalization' and 'out-sourcing' we have no productive capacity, no genuine wealth creation industries in our country to take the well educated and the less well educated alike and put them to work with capital (savings) to make things we can consume and/or export.

 

Instead we have greasy career politicians (both red and blue) who just suck up to you during an election year and then do absolutely nothing to address the real problems our country faces. And first among these problems is that we do not produce anything of value anymore. We do not invent, we do not build, we do not solve engineering problems. Sure there are exceptions which make the rule but on balance (and as our trade deficit clearly shows) we do not add one iota of proper wealth to the world. All we do is consume other peoples' productive output; sending them our pounds, borrowed from the sweat of future labour, in return for present consumption. Ludicrous. And yet we kid oursleves that we have sorted out the best educational system for our children?

 

Pull the other one. It has bells on it.

Edited 23 June, 2009 by 1976_Child

[JustMike]

firstly i feel your pain (having 4 kids at schools, junior and senior gets expensive). Each school gets a budget for the year, this budget includes a small amount for extra curricular activities, such as trips to France etc etc. The school used to be able to charge parents for these trips but new laws stated that this was no longer acceptable, so to get round it the schools, in their letters say things like "...as it is now illegal to charge for these trips, a voluntery contribution is required for the trip to go ahead..." now that p!sses me off, because the contribution is higher than the old amount they used to charge! And, they make you feel guilty by plugging the "wont go ahead if not enough is raised" part!

 

Im all for paying for my kids to goto France or Italy etc its the small pointless trips in between that gets my back up, like the Minstead or Avon Tyrel (sp) trip. £200 + for 4 nights in the new forest!!

[stevegrant]

firstly i feel your pain (having 4 kids at schools, junior and senior gets expensive). Each school gets a budget for the year, this budget includes a small amount for extra curricular activities, such as trips to France etc etc. The school used to be able to charge parents for these trips but new laws stated that this was no longer acceptable, so to get round it the schools, in their letters say things like "...as it is now illegal to charge for these trips, a voluntery contribution is required for the trip to go ahead..." now that p!sses me off, because the contribution is higher than the old amount they used to charge! And, they make you feel guilty by plugging the "wont go ahead if not enough is raised" part!

I'd hardly say that's a new thing - my old primary and secondary schools both used to ask for "voluntary contributions" to meet the cost of every school trip I ever went on, and I left the primary school in 1995 and the secondary school in 2000 - they also used the guilt trip line.

[StuRomseySaint]

I'd hardly say that's a new thing - my old primary and secondary schools both used to ask for "voluntary contributions" to meet the cost of every school trip I ever went on, and I left the primary school in 1995 and the secondary school in 2000 - they also used the guilt trip line.

 

I think the 'voluntary contribution' started when I was in Junior school which was in the 80's.

 

It's not the paying for the school trips, it's how often they ask for money, it is literally at least once a week. Why don't schools have travel expenses etc put in their budgets?

 

It is not the same everywhere... I think Baddesley Junior are just mugging me off... My boys school in Kent don't ask for money every 5 minutes. Halterworth dont ask for money every week, and they have less than 5% 'benefit' families... so why does Baddesley School ask for so much money, especially when probably nearly 50% of families there are on benefits?

 

Mind you, better the spongers spend their benefits on school trips rather than Lambrini and Richmond Superkings. Every cloud....

[stevegrant]

Always looking for the positive in everything...

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Ahh! At last something to get my angry ****ed off political teeth into!

 

Education, education, education. New Liebour's show piece. Cornerstone of their manifesto. ****ing utter waste of time, effort and energy.

 

Here is my education manifesto:

 

1. Any education manifesto that does not, right at the outset, acknowledge the Golden Fact is doomed to failure. The Golden Fact: some kids are Einstein-bright, some are Plan©k-thick. With out this truth written clear at the top of every page of the manifesto we will always have a sub-standard schooling system.

 

2. Centralised, socialised education policy is about as useful as Gordon Brown's budget calculator.

 

3. The asumption that 50% of school leavers should attend 'Uni' and rack up stupendous debts just to please some over-paid box-ticker in Whitehall is just pure bastard stupid init.

 

4. A teacher should be able to walk into a class room and expect all the pupils (not 'students') to stand up and shut up. Failure to comply should be met with a sound caning.

 

5. The basic 'operating system' of each and every child should include: English (written, read and spoken), mathematics (basic everyday maths), history (not of some far away tribe, but of the nation they are born into), geography (a knowledge of the world map, countries and capitals), science (an appreciation of the empirical method and the basic laws of nature).

 

There is no need to fill the curriculum with advice on how to fist a badger, dress your sister in a burka, use a condom at the ripe old age of six and other such pinko-liberal nonsense. Just give the kid the basic operating system and then cut them loose.

 

6. School uniform should be mandatory. Failure to comply should result in a sound caning.

 

7. Unruly, rude or violent parents should be shot. There is no place for pikeys in this world, let alone in a school.

 

8. Primary schools should never ask hard working, tax paying parents to give even more.

 

I wish you wouldn't beat about the bush.

 

Apart from a few points you'd never get away with I think most are valid.

[Smirking_Saint]

Personally, looking at the education point of view, and 1976's einstien bright and moronic stages of a kids development. (Which i agree with, some are intellectual, others not cut out)

 

There should be a thing that says, if the kid shows promise, (good grades etc) then allow them to carry on and finish their GCSE's etc etc.

 

If they do not look great, start an apprentice course or life skills (electricity, woodwork, brickwork etc) to see where the kids skill's lie and push them towards NVQ's etc, there is no point wasting a kids time and killing their enthusiasm if they are likely to fail.

 

As per Uni Courses, they are important for business and industry but not the waster courses you get (media studies etc)

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Try discussing anything with the head at Cherbourg School. At best, so it is alleged, she will get her collection of pebbles out and ask you to play with them to 'ease your stress'. At worst (my experience)? You have one visit and walk out feeling like you are in the wrong for asking, that all your thinking is skewed against the school etc. You never bother going back again.

 

A total and utter waste of time.

 

And don't get me started on Quilley, our Son is not going there!

[badgerx16]

Ummm, are you sure it wasn't the Tories? Pretty sure educational apartheid was introduced under Maggie's watch.

Tuition fees were introduced by the Labour Government in 1998, after the Dearing report; the Tories had earlier replaced grants with loans.

 

firstly i feel your pain (having 4 kids at schools, junior and senior gets expensive).

Wait 'til they are at Uni !

 

Labour are the Party that introduced University fees which has made further education something only the priviledged can afford (unless students saddle themselves with years of debt).

 

Unforgiveable in my book.

Something must be wrong today, I agree with Stanely !

 

Oh, and Benjii, some on here ARE teachers, and others of us are married to one.

Edited 24 June, 2009 by badgerx16

[JustMike]

I'd hardly say that's a new thing - my old primary and secondary schools both used to ask for "voluntary contributions" to meet the cost of every school trip I ever went on, and I left the primary school in 1995 and the secondary school in 2000 - they also used the guilt trip line.

 

it was only made law within the last 5 years or so. It was an option before. The letters school sent home used to say something like the cost of the trip is £xx we would like a voluntary contribution of £xx. Now its says we are not allowed by law to charge for the trip but would like a voluntary contribution of £xx

[Seaford Saint]

Playing Devil's advocate.....teachers going abroad, interrupting their own lives to do it. You should all be grateful. My daughter went to China with her school for 10 days, did a French exchange last year. These trips have benefitted her enormously, she can't wait for her gap year to return to China. We have 2 other kids going to Iceland for a week in a month's time. My son loved his time in Wales

 

I help out on Fetes and other events and each time I do my firm matches the sponsorship the school raises to the tune of £350 a time. I have raised about £2000 for the schools. I fel its the least I can do

 

Its a partnership and you should help the schools out or at least stop whinging about money, considering what the schools do for your kids.

[Thedelldays]

Playing Devil's advocate.....teachers going abroad, interrupting their own lives to do it. You should all be grateful. My daughter went to China with her school for 10 days, did a French exchange last year. These trips have benefitted her enormously, she can't wait for her gap year to return to China. We have 2 other kids going to Iceland for a week in a month's time. My son loved his time in Wales

 

I help out on Fetes and other events and each time I do my firm matches the sponsorship the school raises to the tune of £350 a time. I have raised about £2000 for the schools. I fel its the least I can do

 

Its a partnership and you should help the schools out or at least stop whinging about money, considering what the schools do for your kids.

 

i stopped at that bit

 

i will use a term we use in the navy when people complain about their profession..

 

"ROGER YOUR JOB"

[StuRomseySaint]

Playing Devil's advocate.....teachers going abroad, interrupting their own lives to do it. You should all be grateful. My daughter went to China with her school for 10 days, did a French exchange last year. These trips have benefitted her enormously, she can't wait for her gap year to return to China. We have 2 other kids going to Iceland for a week in a month's time. My son loved his time in Wales

 

I help out on Fetes and other events and each time I do my firm matches the sponsorship the school raises to the tune of £350 a time. I have raised about £2000 for the schools. I fel its the least I can do

 

Its a partnership and you should help the schools out or at least stop whinging about money, considering what the schools do for your kids.

 

China maybe.... you can't compare China to a week at an activitiy camp can you?

 

She has already been to France half a dozen times, been all over Europe, Egypt, North America.... so it may benefit her 'slightly' but if we had the choice, she wouldnt be going.

 

The problem is that they hard-sell everyone to the point where they make you feel as though they HAVE to go, or else they will be the only one not going and have to sit in a classroom on their own all week.

 

Last year we went to Egypt, took her to the Pyramids, Egypt Museum etc etc... didn't cost much more than £400. There are much better ways of spending £400.

 

Oh, and don't think they teachers going to France in term time ( almost certainly their fees being paid for by us ) is a disruption to them, I cant speak for other schools but the teachers at Baddesley school wouldnt have been trying so hard, almost to the point of blackmail, to ensure everyone goes.

[StuRomseySaint]

i stopped at that bit

 

i will use a term we use in the navy when people complain about their profession..

 

"ROGER YOUR JOB"

 

Exactly, the parents paying for them to go to France for a week during term-time... I am sure they will get over it, after all.... it is the week before they have 6 weeks off.... alright for some eh? I've had 2 days holiday since before Xmas. :-(

[Doctoroncall]

Personally, looking at the education point of view, and 1976's einstien bright and moronic stages of a kids development. (Which i agree with, some are intellectual, others not cut out)

 

There should be a thing that says, if the kid shows promise, (good grades etc) then allow them to carry on and finish their GCSE's etc etc.

 

If they do not look great, start an apprentice course or life skills (electricity, woodwork, brickwork etc) to see where the kids skill's lie and push them towards NVQ's etc, there is no point wasting a kids time and killing their enthusiasm if they are likely to fail.

 

As per Uni Courses, they are important for business and industry but not the waster courses you get (media studies etc)

 

That's something the Germans did do (not sure it still goes on but I'd expect it has). When the child reaches 16 it's a choice of academic or practical streams of study.

 

Those on the academic side do the usual subjects, those on the practical side are more like apprenticeships which can vary from engineering where there is still an academic element to being in the fire service.

[View From The Top]

i stopped at that bit

 

i will use a term we use in the navy when people complain about their profession..

 

"ROGER YOUR JOB"

 

But teachers don't have to do and are actually advised not to.

 

Believe me, it's no jolly for them, they do it to benefit the kids..

[Thedelldays]

But teachers don't have to do and are actually advised not to.

 

Believe me, it's no jolly for them, they do it to benefit the kids..

 

 

im sorry, you become a teacher you SHOULD EXPECT to go on school trips...

[StuRomseySaint]

But teachers don't have to do and are actually advised not to.

 

Believe me, it's no jolly for them, they do it to benefit the kids..

 

Exactly, teachers don't HAVE to, but who's gonna knock a free trip to France eh? Especially when the kids are 'supervised' by the on-site staff.... so there is very little for them to do...

 

If it wasn't a jolly for them, then they wouldnt be pushing it so hard... especially when for less money, there was an option in the UK they could have pushed.

[OldNick]

when I was at school they didnt have teacher training days. They just came in gave you a slap around the ear and you lived in fear of being singled out. If the teacher asked a question and told people to put their hand up if they knew the answer, most of the class did, not because they knew but worked on the law of odds that they would nt be asked to explain the answer.

[Scudamore]

You spent a couple of quid on a wooden spoon? Buy it in Harrods?

[Rattlehead]

Maybe people should consider whether they can afford kids before they actually have the poor little f*ckers.

 

Pikeys.

[StuRomseySaint]

Maybe people should consider whether they can afford kids before they actually have the poor little f*ckers.

 

Pikeys.

 

lol

 

Who said anything about not being able to afford it you nonce? I was simply stating how f*cked off I was about having to pay for school trips and other stuff weekly when I already f*cking well pay for it out of my taxes.

 

Don't worry about my kids, they are well travelled, have the latest designer clobber and attend many clubs after school.... :cool:

[Rattlehead]

Taxpayer cash shouldn't be spent sending kids on jollies. Parents, quite rightly, should stump up for that.

[Rattlehead]

Unless the money is used to pay teachers a lot more and recruit the best people (from university, of course), then schools will continue to be the career-play ground of: the uninspired; the plaid target-driven; the intellectually moribund; the unambitious and the unaspirational.

Oh, and Benjii, some on here ARE teachers, and others of us are married to one.

 

benjii is spot on here. The fact there are some teachers on here and others are married to teachers doesn't mean he is wrong and it certainly doesn't change the fact that the system is churning out thicky after thicky. We are now largely a nation of complete thickies and at least part of that blame is attributable to teachers.

 

Let's face it, if they had any real value to add they'd be making much more cash in the real world. "Those can, do, those who can't, teach" etc...

[Saint Keith]

"Those can, do, those who can't, teach" etc...

and those who can't teach, become consultants. .er .. oh..

[StuRomseySaint]

Taxpayer cash shouldn't be spent sending kids on jollies. Parents, quite rightly, should stump up for that.

 

Or maybe kids just shouldn't be sent on jollies? Half the trips they go on have absolutely no benefit to their education at all.

[JustMike]

benjii is spot on here. The fact there are some teachers on here and others are married to teachers doesn't mean he is wrong and it certainly doesn't change the fact that the system is churning out thicky after thicky. We are now largely a nation of complete thickies and at least part of that blame is attributable to teachers.

 

Let's face it, if they had any real value to add they'd be making much more cash in the real world. "Those can, do, those who can't, teach" etc...

 

..and they have you as their leader!

 

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Do you even have kids?

[Saint_clark]

I lol'ed at the notion that teachers were hard done by being paid to go abroad in time they would have been working anyway.

[Saint_clark]

Also, many of the people who taught me in school were very good at teaching their respective subjects. The curriculum was just clogged up with too much pointless and uninteresting sh*t.

[badgerx16]

benjii is spot on here. The fact there are some teachers on here and others are married to teachers doesn't mean he is wrong and it certainly doesn't change the fact that the system is churning out thicky after thicky. We are now largely a nation of complete thickies and at least part of that blame is attributable to teachers.

 

Let's face it, if they had any real value to add they'd be making much more cash in the real world. "Those can, do, those who can't, teach" etc...

 

My wife, ( who has 2 degrees ), has to deal every day with 26 5&6 year-olds who spit, scream, kick, punch, and bite, and to whom she can give no form of physical response because she will be disciplined if she was to try. Her 'real value' is to try to get them into a suitable state of mind such that they have some hope of progressing further on in the system.

 

How much would you want to be paid before you would be willing to operate in her situation ?

[StuRomseySaint]

My wife, ( who has 2 degrees ), has to deal every day with 26 5&6 year-olds who spit, scream, kick, punch, and bite, and to whom she can give no form of physical response because she will be disciplined if she was to try. Her 'real value' is to try to get them into a suitable state of mind such that they have some hope of progressing further on in the system.

 

How much would you want to be paid before you would be willing to operate in her situation ?

 

She doesn't have to deal with it every day though, does she?

 

For a start she has 13 weeks holiday a year, not bad eh?

 

Oh, and if she is in a school where all the kids kick, scream, punch and bite every day, then can I suggest that she finds a job in another school.....

 

If she does it for her 'real value' of the job, then I suspect she doesn't care about the money, as a result, she wouldn't be wanting you speaking for her, would she?

 

Nobody is forced to do any job.

[badgerx16]

She doesn't have to deal with it every day though, does she?

 

For a start she has 13 weeks holiday a year, not bad eh?

 

Oh, and if she is in a school where all the kids kick, scream, punch and bite every day, then can I suggest that she finds a job in another school.....

 

If she does it for her 'real value' of the job, then I suspect she doesn't care about the money, as a result, she wouldn't be wanting you speaking for her, would she?

 

Nobody is forced to do any job.

Nice to see pedantry is alive and well.

[Rattlehead]

..and they have you as their leader!

 

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Do you even have kids?

 

Everyone loves their own kids and think they're special, even though they're usually not, so I don't really see the relevance of looking at one's own kids here. More relevant is that I do interview and employ people coming out of the education system and, rest assured, ostensibly bright people are often far from it and 'good' qualifications are not a reliable guide at all.

 

Standards are definitely down so, take it from me, there are way too many thick people in this country. It seems, Michael, that it is you who hasn't got a clue what you're talking about.

[Rattlehead]

My wife, ( who has 2 degrees ), has to deal every day with 26 5&6 year-olds who spit, scream, kick, punch, and bite, and to whom she can give no form of physical response because she will be disciplined if she was to try. Her 'real value' is to try to get them into a suitable state of mind such that they have some hope of progressing further on in the system.

 

How much would you want to be paid before you would be willing to operate in her situation ?

 

Two degrees, whoop-de-doo, am I supposed to be impressed? Teachers are often not that bright either. I know of at least one who repeatedly failed GCSE Maths.

 

As StuPot says, she's doesn't have to do it and I imagine it's a pretty easy job for most of the year. That said, I wouldn't do the job anyway without being paid a massive salary. Why? Because it simply doesn't appeal to me and I can earn much more doing other (more interesting and more dynamic) things that don't involve 'teaching' pikey kids who will never amount to anything on this planet.

[Saint_clark]

Two degrees, whoop-de-doo, am I supposed to be impressed? Teachers are often not that bright either. I know of at least one who repeatedly failed GCSE Maths.

 

As StuPot says, she's doesn't have to do it and I imagine it's a pretty easy job for most of the year. That said, I wouldn't do the job anyway without being paid a massive salary. Why? Because it simply doesn't appeal to me and I can earn much more doing other (more interesting and more dynamic) things that don't involve 'teaching' pikey kids who will never amount to anything on this planet.

 

I pray you never have kids if this is how you feel about them.

[TheCholulaKid]

She doesn't have to deal with it every day though, does she?

 

For a start she has 13 weeks holiday a year, not bad eh?

 

Oh, and if she is in a school where all the kids kick, scream, punch and bite every day, then can I suggest that she finds a job in another school.....

 

If she does it for her 'real value' of the job, then I suspect she doesn't care about the money, as a result, she wouldn't be wanting you speaking for her, would she?

 

Nobody is forced to do any job.

 

Exactly. Bit like people in the Forces moaning that nobody appreciates what they do for little money. Nobody is forced to do any job.

 

Some people choose difficult schools because that's where help is often needed the most - nobody chooses teaching because it's easy (and if they do they don't stay in the profession for very long).

 

The 13 weeks are great though.

[Mole]

Teachers are generally thick left wingers like the majority who post on this forum. In essence they are the quitisential Guardian reader. Children have little chance of growing up properly being tought by such mongs. If they were as smart as they think they are they would get a proper job. And for one poster to suggest they work hard is scandalous - they spend half their life on holiday.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Teachers are generally thick........they are the 'quitisential'.

 

Quality

[Mole]

Quality

 

It's hardly a word used every day. The fact you chose to pick up on a spelling mistake and ignored the rub of my post is a clear sign you have no counter argument to my superior wisdom.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

It's hardly a word used every day.

 

I don't often use the word dumb ass, I will today