yellow&blue Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Why do you think the time is right? Who are you to decide? Let the man do what he wants to do. Or woman........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! not going to share the info then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 dam tease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Totally irrelevant for us to know who the money man is. I know it would satisfy our curiosity, but would have no other effect whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! He doesn't sound THATcommitted to us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Sad so sad.......you are/were one of the few posters on here, that I had any respect for. Now it appears you have gone over to the dark side, and believe that you have a divine right to answers. This forum is a small representation of the fanbase, yet some on here think they run the club.......don't join them Duncan, retain your self respect. No Gingeletiss, no divine right I accept, in fact none of us have any rights anymore because the club is (nearly) in private hands. However it is not unreasonable surely, if this takeover is going ahead as TL assures us, to at least know the identity of those private hands? Some things are just not adding up (see TL's last post in the early hours) and I just want to see some hard facts now. Sorry if that makes me a dark side inhabitant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 No Gingeletiss, no divine right I accept, in fact none of us have any rights anymore because the club is (nearly) in private hands. However it is not unreasonable surely, if this takeover is going ahead as TL assures us, to at least know the identity of those private hands? Some things are just not adding up (see TL's last post in the early hours) and I just want to see some hard facts now. Sorry if that makes me a dark side inhabitant. I usually agree with all you say but I think your'e being silly now. I dont see why it is relevant to find out now. More vital is when is the completion of the takover likely to happen, then we will know anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I usually agree with all you say but I think your'e being silly now. I dont see why it is relevant to find out now. More vital is when is the completion of the takover likely to happen, then we will know anyway. Roger - for me "finding out" is conclusive proof of Pinnacle's genuineness and ability to deliver. Sorry if you find this silly but with idiots like Jackson around these are indeed "silly" times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Roger - for me "finding out" is conclusive proof of Pinnacle's genuineness and ability to deliver. Sorry if you find this silly but with idiots like Jackson around these are indeed "silly" times. So basically you are questioning MLT's integrity. Nice. I would suggest that MLT knows the buyer and has decided that it is the right choice for SFC - I trust his judgement until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 So basically you are questioning MLT's integrity. Nice. I would suggest that MLT knows the buyer and has decided that it is the right choice for SFC - I trust his judgement until proven otherwise. No I would never question his integrity but I do know quite some time into this whole venture, he had yet to meet the "money man". Whether that has changed now well I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Roger - for me "finding out" is conclusive proof of Pinnacle's genuineness and ability to deliver. Sorry if you find this silly but with idiots like Jackson around these are indeed "silly" times. I agree we have just got rid of one half wit and another one appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Question to you FF - why do you need to know so badly? He/she may want to stay out of the limelight for as long as possible. Which is quite understandable and in my mind bodes well for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I usually agree with all you say but I think your'e being silly now. I dont see why it is relevant to find out now. More vital is when is the completion of the takover likely to happen, then we will know anyway. I would phrase the question differently. I am concerned as to the reasons that the new owner doesn't want to have been publicly associated with the bid to buy the club from that start. That's all. And in saying that I fully concede that there may be valid reasons for wanting/needing to stay un-named. But now that Tony has given a cast iron commitment to buy the club - come what may. I think most of the "valid" reasons for wanting to remain anonymous now disappear. I the grand scheme of things, in 3-4 weeks time this moment won't have matter. But given our track record with ownership and executives I am not given to blind faith. Despite the fact that everything I've seen from Pinnacle has been excellent I feel I need to know the details before I can support it 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 No I would never question his integrity but I do know quite some time into this whole venture, he had yet to meet the "money man". Whether that has changed now well I hope so. Couldn't agree more with your sentiments FF. Until the money man reveals who he is there will always be a degree of suspicion in my mind about the Pinnacle bid. Why does he feel the need for anonymity? If the deal goes t!ts up it is MLT who risks losing credibility in Southampton (although I should hope people would give him credit for trying to do something.) If Matt is wiling to raise his head above the parapet prior to a takeover being completed why isn't Mr Big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Sad so sad.......you are/were one of the few posters on here, that I had any respect for. Now it appears you have gone over to the dark side, and believe that you have a divine right to answers. This forum is a small representation of the fanbase, yet some on here think they run the club.......don't join them Duncan, retain your self respect. Ginge, I can sense you have ultimate faith in MLT. it is his presence that has kept many from asking very serious questions. Had he not been the face of this bid I doubt that you and many others would be so gracious (I could be wrong, you may be very trusting) Duncan gets to hear a lot more than most and if he believes that MLT had not met the money people and has only gone on hearsay then that should be a worry should it not.Duncan is not always right but he like myself and others do worrry that our club may fall again into the wrong hands. It may come out that the money is in fact some offshore company that is Cayman islands where we wont know who owns it (although GM will have a right good go) Perhaps our worries are ill founded but MLT can be duped like the best of us, was he not tied up into something selling the fans a year or so ago that seemed a bit of a bad deal?? Im not sure it ever went ahead, I think it was a seminar at SMS ?? TL stated that the wages etc will be met thursday, if that is the case it is job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 As i mentioned on another thread - the problem with purchasing a club from administrators is that teh whole this is in the public eye - so naturally we feel left in teh dark if some major or teh most interseting questions seem unanswered - I too would love to know who it is, but appreciate why someone would wish reamin anonymous until its confirmed exactly becauise of the pitfalls that can ruin any prospective deal. Duncan, I feel your frustration, but also we need to try and avoid falling into the traps of paranoia - I dont think there is anything out of the ordinary in TLs posts or things that dont 'add up' - there are clearly still challenges to be overcome which is a normal part of such complex deals. If the backer is not prepared to continue with us on -10 points, then we just have to accept that and move one... if you are the one parting with 15 mil, you have the right do do so on your own terms... but i believe TL and MLT when they say they will conclude ... provided we dont now get issues with teh administrator as teh Swiss and MJ come back into the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! How did you find out? I'd be happy to receive a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 what if there is no real money man..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 what if there is no real money man..? Then it will be a money lady:smt007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I've heard it's Rod Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 tbh i cannot believe that the press/media havnt sniffed him out already. I think you will find that no one in the media is that bothered. They get their information from this site, hence so many bizarre Echo stories! Personally, I do find the secrecy has now gone on for too long. How do we know that the Pinnacle offer will be better than any new bidder (except MJ)? We don't, yet are expected to back Pinnacle. They may well be close to reaching the end of fans blind faith. Time is running out very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! Oh yeah???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Rich then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgert76 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I agree with you completely FF. If Pinnacle want our support, it's about time we knew who we were supporting. I can't see any reason for secrecy as regards the identity of the backer at this late stage. All it is doing is sowing seeds of doubt (in my mind anyway). I can see every reason why you would want to remain anonymous until it's sorted. Just check out the character assassinations of Marc Jackson on here over the last few weeks. If it all falls through he can go back to his normal business as if nothing happened (albeit £500k lighter in the pocket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I can see every reason why you would want to remain anonymous until it's sorted. Just check out the character assassinations of Marc Jackson on here over the last few weeks. If it all falls through he can go back to his normal business as if nothing happened (albeit £500k lighter in the pocket) Top post..........nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 He is getting over the failure of Eurovision surely taking on Saints is very risky...Good on him....But two failures on yer CV dosn't look good......I can see that bird Maria playing Centre Half at sum stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I can see every reason why you would want to remain anonymous until it's sorted. Just check out the character assassinations of Marc Jackson on here over the last few weeks. If it all falls through he can go back to his normal business as if nothing happened (albeit £500k lighter in the pocket) or £500k lighter in Crouch's pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 (edited) I hate to say this but I feel now is the right time for the mystery money man to be introduced. There can be little gained from remaining anonymous now surely. The time for cloak and dagger games are passed. People's employment and the fan's dreams are laid bare tonight. If Pinnacle are to be taken seriously let's have some actual proof of genuine intent with a name of the new owner. Is that not too much to ask? Why so shy? The FL have put the ball firmly back in Pinnacle's court and Fry is inviting others to step forward so now now is not the time to be coy. Tony, you have had more than 3 weeks - if you are serious and your client is committed please show us with actions - employees and fans need some meat on the bone by the close of play tomorrow, otherwise your credibility will, after that, quickly recede with every passing day. Appreciate all you have done and applaud your PR etc etc (and we all love MLT) but we are fast approaching the crossroads of trust. No offence! Why should he reveal who the backer is, until all is complete? I think people should be more patient. He has had the decency to keep us all updated and people should respect the complexity of negotiations. As mentioned on another thread, it may be The Pinnacle lawyers are seeking/awaiting assurances from the FL so as not to expose the club to the risk of further points deductions if we are to accpet the minus 10 (re: the CVA issue, as the holding company, not the club is in admin so the football club will not have a CVA). It's not always black and white. Just keep patient and don't lose faith. They seem to be working hard and astute enough to iron out any potential pitfalls. Best get it right now than rush in and leave rules and legal issues which could come back to bite the club on the ass! Edited 23 June, 2009 by Gordon Mockles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 No I would never question his integrity but I do know quite some time into this whole venture, he had yet to meet the "money man". Whether that has changed now well I hope so. Seems a rather odd situation for the financier and potential chairman to barely know each other, and rather begs the question, can we confident that they would have a harmonious working relationship? And I am one of those who very much wants MLT to be the chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Saint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I've heard it's Rod Stewart. I was speaking to a record producer at Nick Kershaws wedding on Saturday who know Rod Stewart and he said Rod Stewart would NEVER buy a football club and even if he did it would be a Scottish one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Seems a rather odd situation for the financier and potential chairman to barely know each other, and rather begs the question, can we confident that they would have a harmonious working relationship? And I am one of those who very much wants MLT to be the chairman. Not sure that we know the structure of the new company. There could still be a private holding co, with MLT Chairman of FC. Now they know the rules would prob work OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I was speaking to a record producer at Nick Kershaws wedding on Saturday who know Rod Stewart and he said Rod Stewart would NEVER buy a football club and even if he did it would be a Scottish one. post of the day??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Monkey Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 The mystery Man is david Beckham. FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post-it note Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I have no intention of coming out just yet thanks. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Now you're being silly;) I'm sure they have very sound commercial reasons for staying anonymous at this time. It's been a frustrating 3-4 days but I'm still extremely positive that we will all be celebrating some good news soon. Care to reappraise Delmary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Sad so sad.......you are/were one of the few posters on here, that I had any respect for. Now it appears you have gone over to the dark side, and believe that you have a divine right to answers. This forum is a small representation of the fanbase, yet some on here think they run the club.......don't join them Duncan, retain your self respect. Gingeletiss - greetings from the dark side - can you see now why I called for the backer to come forward? This never added up, especially since the exclusivity period ended - I have some of the original Pinnacle paperwork in my possesion and it was becoming clear to me that TL was not being 100% straight - hence my call on this thread. I take no pleasure however because if the Swiss bid now fails it will be the end and tyre kickers like Lynham will have played their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Gingeletiss - greetings from the dark side - can you see now why I called for the backer to come forward? This never added up, especially since the exclusivity period ended - I have some of the original Pinnacle paperwork in my possesion and it was becoming clear to me that TL was not being 100% straight - hence my call on this thread. I take no pleasure however because if the Swiss bid now fails it will be the end and tyre kickers like Lynham will have played their part. What I just don't understand Duncan is why the 'experts' at Begbies Traynor couldn't see through this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I think we have 500,000 reasons to back the individual in question and allow him to orchestrate negotiations as he sees fit TBH. Putting a name in print before he wishes it to be made public will not achieve anything with regards the eventual outcome. Now we know who he is but not who his backers are, assuming they exist at all (which TL and MLT seem confused about), I don't feel any more comfortable even if the money is there. The thought of the club being owned by a shady bunch of North London property dealers is almost enough to encourage me to buy a Season Ticket for Salisbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo badger Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! Is there something you know cos i dont think even MLT knows this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Question to you FF - why do you need to know so badly? He/she may want to stay out of the limelight for as long as possible. Which is quite understandable and in my mind bodes well for the future. I would want to stay out of the limelight after watching a few of the psychopaths and weirdos on here spend all day looking up home addresses etc... :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayman Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I would want to stay out of the limelight after watching a few of the psychopaths and weirdos on here spend all day looking up home addresses etc... :-s We also need a room in The Priory for some who post 24/7 with 10k + posts !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Couldn't give two hoots whether he's loaded or not. If he's going to buy the club and save it so we have a team to watch next season then i'll back him. Were not exactly in a position to pick and choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Smoke screens still working well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 And I thought the money man was Michael Jackson... ...this would explain the collapse of the deal today :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! Come on awaysaint, what did you hear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Oh feck! I feel like the proverbial moth and the 1000 Watt lamp! I know I don't have to come on this site but I just can't avoid it. Is there a cure for morbid curiosity? Apart from the obvious I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Gingeletiss - greetings from the dark side - can you see now why I called for the backer to come forward? This never added up, especially since the exclusivity period ended - I have some of the original Pinnacle paperwork in my possesion and it was becoming clear to me that TL was not being 100% straight - hence my call on this thread. I take no pleasure however because if the Swiss bid now fails it will be the end and tyre kickers like Lynham will have played their part. Duncan......you may yet be right....but don't gloat just yet....IMHO of course:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I have just found out who are buyer is. All I can say is well done to MLT because without his imput not only would he not of purchased sfc but the deal would not of even got off the ground. MLT I salute you !!!!!! Any more pearls of wisdom? Tw*t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Duncan......you may yet be right....but don't gloat just yet....IMHO of course:) Morning Ginge, I may have bigged you up sooner than I should have. £150m man , i dont think that particular investor is of that worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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