Just spoke to Tony Lynam 18:10 today

[OldNick]

fair enough but the big difference for me is that mark jackson is a tit and a dreamer

probably a good assessment, although after meeting him twice I dont think that is fair

[Wade Garrett]

Wade RL would have put us in to administration before if he knew that Barclays would pull hte plug.In facrt he would have sold any player in jan had he had any idea of that happening.He would have done that to save his skin and money.

 

 

Well if he didn't see it coming it doesn't say much for his business acumen does it.

 

What does he expect a bank to do when your over your agreed considerable overdraft limit and you have no money coming in. I haven't got an MBA, but even I know the answer to that one.

[niceandfriendly]

This worries me too. What possible reason could there be for Mr Big to remain a mystery man UNLESS he's someone who will either split the fanbase, be unpopular or not exist?

 

Because it could affect his current business dealings?

Because he's a busy man and doesn't need to be bombarded with phone calls and home visits from journalists desperate for a photo/interview?

 

I'm sure there are more, better reasons too.

 

We've waited SO long for this deal to go through, let's not hassle Pinnacle now with the desperation for a name. We don't need that yet.

[Wade Garrett]

It's un****ingbelieveable mate. Tony has categorically stated he'll be buying the club. Matt Le Tissier (our clubs greatest ever hero WHO IS NO MUG) is part of the deal. Some people need to stop and think for once.

 

Fair point. But after years of let-downs it is very hard to stay positive.

[Glasgow_Saint]

he's someone who will either split the fanbase, be unpopular or not exist?

 

how can they/he/she not exist?

[OldNick]

It's un****ingbelieveable mate. Tony has categorically stated he'll be buying the club. Matt Le Tissier (our clubs greatest ever hero WHO IS NO MUG) is part of the deal. Some people need to stop and think for once.

well Stanley if that is the case and I believe him why not put pen to paper today? Nothing like the present.

I agree with Ginge that there are drama queens on here and no doubt he was meaning me, lol. I have met lots of people who dont worry and wait for things to come right in the end, most I see in the 'bankruptcy'pages of the Echo

[Trader]

I Also Agree That This Is Starting To Become A Right Farce And I Would Rather That TL, MLT etc Should Just Take The -10 Points Rather Than Have No Club At All And I For One Am Confident That TL And That Will Eventually Take The Club Over And The FL Will Back Down And We Can Get On With The Season And Do The Talking On The Pitch !

Saints Till I Die!!

 

Bloody hell - all that caps locking - i should have a lie down if I were you.

[OldNick]

Well if he didn't see it coming it doesn't say much for his business acumen does it.

 

What does he expect a bank to do when your over your agreed considerable overdraft limit and you have no money coming in. I haven't got an MBA, but even I know the answer to that one.

lets not go over it all again, about the overdraft being reduced etc blah blah blah.

[paris]

Mmmmmm i'm starting to sniff something not very nice i hope to god i'm wrong but my instinct is talking to me...

 

The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now.

:mad::mad::mad:

[Mole]

Fair point. But after years of let-downs it is very hard to stay positive.

 

I know what you're saying, but some of the replies to this thread are down right disgusting. Maybe it's because lot's of the posters are too young to remember what MLT did for us, i don't know, but i remember him well and he's more than a legend - he's Mr Southampton. If you can't trust MLT then are you really worthy of being a Saint?

[Glasgow_Saint]

probably a good assessment, although after meeting him twice I dont think that is fair

 

I have met him a few times and can confirm he is a very professional businessman - right to bring us back to good times, maybe not. Fry obviously likes what he sees or MJ would have been dismissed long ago.

 

in all honesty, without MLT behind this deal I think TL would be getting more stick now - very wishy-washy so far and hiding the identity of MR money could back-fire unless the guy proves to be very wealthy.

 

Ill be ****ed if we have/will miss out on better deals, just because pinnalce have used the love for MLT to help broker, smoke screen and delay this deal.

Edited 22 June, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint

[dannysfc]

Bloody hell - all that caps locking - i should have a lie down if I were you.

 

Thanks Trader And I Always Do It And Put Up With It Whether You Like It Or Not Ok Mate ?!

Thanks!

[Gingeletiss]

I know what you're saying, but some of the replies to this thread are down right disgusting. Maybe it's because lot's of the posters are too young to remember what MLT did for us, i don't know, but i remember him well and he's more than a legend - he's Mr Southampton. If you can't trust MLT then are you really worthy of being a Saint?

 

Plus............He will know who is putting up the money....now get your calculators out girls, and see if you can add 2+2.

[Beer Engine]

There's nothing like a bit of competition to concentrate minds.

 

Pinnacle have had their 21 days and either (a) apparently they have just figured out that there's no way we're getting those 10 points back (doh) or (b) they've known all along and are playing "chicken" with Aviva and Barclays.

 

Next season is almost upon us - we haven't got time for brinkmanship.

 

Let's see what the other bidders have to offer.

[Trader]

Thanks Trader And I Always Do It And Put Up With It Whether You Like It Or Not Ok Mate ?!

Thanks!

 

Fair enough - must be hard work though.

 

And strangely makes it very difficult to read.

[saint_mears]

The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now.

:mad::mad::mad:

 

 

You seem to be barking up the wrong tree with chips on your shoulder.

[OldNick]

I have met him a few times and can confirm he is a very professional guy - right to bring us back to good times, maybe not.

 

in all honesty, without MLT behind this deal I think TL would be getting more stick now - very wishy-washy so far and hiding the identity of MR money could back-fire unless the guy proves to be very wealthy.

 

Ill be ****ed if we have/will miss out on better deals, just because pinnalce have used the love for MLT to help broker, smoke screen and delay this deal.

I have faith that people like the Farmer and others who are keen saints fans would not put us through this on a whim. MJ and the people I met with him are saints fans and they also wouldnt wish to do the same.

Pinnacle Iam told will go forward but it is now time for them to deliver.I dont want to offend but this talk is doing my head in

[niceandfriendly]

There's nothing like a bit of competition to concentrate minds.

 

Pinnacle have had their 21 days and either (a) apparently they have just figured out that there's no way we're getting those 10 points back (doh) or (b) they've known all along and are playing "chicken" with Aviva and Barclays.

 

Next season is almost upon us - we haven't got time for brinkmanship.

 

Let's see what the other bidders have to offer.

 

It's about the denial of the right to appeal, which Mawhinny originally stated we would have, and is obviously a right EVERYONE has in all walks of life. It's not that Pinnacle have just found out we can't get rid of -10 points, it's that they've just found out that the League are blackmailing them into waiving their right to appeal.

 

When you're spending a lot of money on something and you find out that you can't appeal against a decision which could cost you even more money, you don't just say "oh ok fair enough", you at least try and do something about it.

[Mole]

I dont want to offend but this talk is doing my head in

 

10 years of Lowe did my head in. This latest episode is a mere trifle in comparison.

[OldNick]

Plus............He will know who is putting up the money....now get your calculators out girls, and see if you can add 2+2.

That is valid, but read Phils post I cut and pasted earlier about Pinnacle moving before the money man was fully on board , which may explain why LC paid the deposit. I think that was a surprise to us all was it not.

[The Rover]

how can they/he/she not exist?

 

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13969

 

Dan Help Me Rhonda Williams? Perhaps the person exists but the funds don't, especially as there is a rumour that Crouch put up the 'exclusivity' money.

[OldNick]

10 years of Lowe did my head in. This latest episode is a mere trifle in comparison.

Didnt go to Cardiff then Stanley, but I like trifle, but not like this latest one.

[RonManager]

Any news on the cat? Getting worried. Hope it's allright. I mean, it must be cold up in that tree. Getting dark soon too. Must be hungry too. Poor little thing. We had a cat once and......

 

'fraid to say it's gone from bad to worse - the firecat brigade that went up to rescue him are now stuck themselves.....:smt073

[Amesbury Saint]

Plus............He will know who is putting up the money....now get your calculators out girls, and see if you can add 2+2.

 

what does this mean?

[eelpie]

It's about the denial of the right to appeal, which Mawhinny originally stated we would have, and is obviously a right EVERYONE has in all walks of life. It's not that Pinnacle have just found out we can't get rid of -10 points, it's that they've just found out that the League are blackmailing them into waiving their right to appeal.

 

When you're spending a lot of money on something and you find out that you can't appeal against a decision which could cost you even more money, you don't just say "oh ok fair enough", you at least try and do something about it.

 

And there is the issue of not being able to appeal further points deductions.

[Mole]

Didnt go to Cardiff then Stanley, but I like trifle, but not like this latest one.

 

I'd almost forgotten you were a Luvvie.

[Master Bates]

And if you go over to the muppet show, you'll see that Newcastle now play in pyjamas.

[The Rover]

Because it could affect his current business dealings?

Because he's a busy man and doesn't need to be bombarded with phone calls and home visits from journalists desperate for a photo/interview?

 

I'm sure there are more, better reasons too.

 

We've waited SO long for this deal to go through, let's not hassle Pinnacle now with the desperation for a name. We don't need that yet.

 

I hope you're right but I don't really buy it.

 

Lots of bigger clubs have been bought by very wealthy people without the need for this eleventh hour secrecy. Hope I'm wrong but like good old GM, I'm beginning to smell a rat and it isn't MJ in this instance.

[OldNick]

what does this mean?

He means MLT would know who is puting the money up and so that should also be reassuring.Ginge likes to be vague.

[glkdcdes]

As time drags on i am getting an uneasy feeling about the Pinnacle deal. I hope Le Tiss is not being used and maybe duped. Has Pinnacle actually put any money down [ie suggestions that Crouch put deposit down?] Why is the mystery backer still secret? Why is it taking quite so long? There are little things not quite adding up. I hope i am wrong but something doesnt feel qyuite right. I hope Pinnacle is what it says it is.

 

I feel slightly uneasy wrighting this and if all comes off Mr Lynam i sincerely apologise, but...........?

[OldNick]

I'd almost forgotten you were a Luvvie.

no just remember it was not always bad. Even under MW we had the play offs

[niceandfriendly]

I hope you're right but I don't really buy it.

 

Lots of bigger clubs have been bought by very wealthy people without the need for this eleventh hour secrecy. Hope I'm wrong but like good old GM, I'm beginning to smell a rat and it isn't MJ in this instance.

 

I see what you're saying but what's changed with regards to the money man between now and the first day of exclusivity?

 

Just because the FL are being a pain in the arse, why should he come out and show his face? I don't see what's changed really and I don't see how that'd help.

[Holbury Saint]

I know what you're saying, but some of the replies to this thread are down right disgusting. Maybe it's because lot's of the posters are too young to remember what MLT did for us, i don't know, but i remember him well and he's more than a legend - he's Mr Southampton. If you can't trust MLT then are you really worthy of being a Saint?

 

Who's to say Matty hasn't been stitched up too here? He could have been told anything. I know its negative but we are all fatigued after 6 horror years which, despite numerous close calls, just doesn't look like ending. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppp

[shurlock]

I have met him a few times and can confirm he is a very professional businessman - right to bring us back to good times, maybe not.

 

in all honesty, without MLT behind this deal I think TL would be getting more stick now - very wishy-washy so far and hiding the identity of MR money could back-fire unless the guy proves to be very wealthy.

 

Ill be ****ed if we have/will miss out on better deals, just because pinnalce have used the love for MLT to help broker, smoke screen and delay this deal.

 

Exactly...on the whole, I think we've been an incredibly patient lot. TL has been cheerfully vague at best. Cant blame people for having a few concerns and fears. Still trust that Pinnacle will come good but the longer things go on, the harder it could be to manage expectations. For many of us, this is a new start after years of disappointment - keeping this in check won't be easy.

[Weston Saint]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13969

 

Dan Help Me Rhonda Williams? Perhaps the person exists but the funds don't, especially as there is a rumour that Crouch put up the 'exclusivity' money.

I was assured today from someone who knows that it is not Dan Williams behind the Pinnacle bid. Phew!!

[ART]

Losing faith in the position of the moon art.

 

Mate, we are all chewing our fingernails and sick to the back teeth of not knowing if our club is going to survive or not, but your post goes way to far when calling it an almighty fraud.

 

If the deal does break down then vent off, but that has not happened yet. Give MLT some sort of credit, he would not be involved in anything that contained in it no hope.

 

Oh no!?? Just how many years did Matthew le Tissier let the likes of Rupert Lowe pull the wool over his eyes and con him then? How long did he remain under contract he signed with the said Lowe?? Matt's as naive and gullible as us all and have been taken in, and sunk, hook, line, and sinker.

 

And yes, I did notice Matt's name added to the Swiss offer in tonights Echo article. Getting involved with the likes of Crouch, Lowe, Wilde or any of those criminals who administered this club,those, who, together, brought our club into this situation in the first place, is beyond belief and will just take us down the same road over again.

 

I love Matt as much as the next Saint but honestly, he should not have got involved in what he doesn't understand. To have the likes of Crouch advising him shows he's not up to being a Chairman. Club President fine! As I previously pointed out, even Ted Bates wasn't as naive and gullible to accept the job of Chairman.

 

Matt has and can easily get involved with things that like us all, he wants to belief will resolve things. Sadly he's been taken in and used like we all have when Wilde arrived, when Crouch preached that Allen was coming and when this mystery unnamed entity bluffed him and us all into a merry go round in the month of May.:mad::mad::mad:

[derry]

The worrying thing about all this, is who makes the most money out of selling the business. Mark Fry could be getting ready to call time on the Pinnacle bid and start a new round of bidding.

 

We know about the MJ bid, the Swiss interest, and now two new bidders.

Isn't this where we came in, after all without Fry's agreement nothing happens.

 

The best deal for the creditors may be getting in the way of completing this deal yet again.

 

Another exclusivity deal will pay next months wages, the club stays in limbo and risks further sanctions. All parties need to sort this out PDQ.

[RonManager]

Thanks Trader And I Always Do It And Put Up With It Whether You Like It Or Not Ok Mate ?!

Thanks!

 

Back in Victorian times, when writing a letter, a capital letter would be used to emphasise an individual word. Nowadays we use italics or bold. Read Sir Isambard Kingdom Brunel's letters to his chief Engineer, Daniel Gooch, it really brings the letters to life and should be introduced back into our written language, although not quite to the extent of using it on each word.:smt039

[Amesbury Saint]

I was assured today from someone who knows that it is not Dan Williams behind the Pinnacle bid. Phew!!

 

any ideas who?

 

if you cant say, has the name been mentioned in the last 7 days?

[Mole]

Oh no!?? Just how many years did Matthew le Tissier let the likes of Rupert Lowe pull the wool over his eyes and con him then? How long did he remain under contract he signed with the said Lowe?? Matt's as naive and gullible as us all and have been taken in, and sunk, hook, line, and sinker.

 

And yes, I did notice Matt's name added to the Swiss offer in tonights Echo article. Getting involved with the likes of Crouch, Lowe, Wilde or any of those criminals who administered this club,those, who, together, brought our club into this situation in the first place, is beyond belief and will just take us down the same road over again.

 

I love Matt as much as the next Saint but honestly, he should not have got involved in what he doesn't understand. To have the likes of Crouch advising him shows he's not up to being a Chairman. Club President fine! As I previously pointed out, even Ted Bates wasn't as naive and gullible to accept the job of Chairman.

 

Matt has and can easily get involved with things that like us all, he wants to belief will resolve things. Sadly he's been taken in and used like we all have when Wilde arrived, when Crouch preached that Allen was coming and when this mystery unnamed entity bluffed him and us all into a merry go round in the month of May.:mad::mad::mad:

 

You've lost the plot even by your usual standards.

[beatlesaint]

Anyway......I suppose, bearing in mind TL's statement about the FL faxing them across details of "what they want" do we assume that the Pinnacle team are locked up in a room somewhere going through all the fine detail ?

 

With a view to putting us all out our misery tomorrow ???

[OldNick]

Oh no!?? Just how many years did Matthew le Tissier let the likes of Rupert Lowe pull the wool over his eyes and con him then? How long did he remain under contract he signed with the said Lowe?? Matt's as naive and gullible as us all and have been taken in, and sunk, hook, line, and sinker.

 

And yes, I did notice Matt's name added to the Swiss offer in tonights Echo article. Getting involved with the likes of Crouch, Lowe, Wilde or any of those criminals who administered this club,those, who, together, brought our club into this situation in the first place, is beyond belief and will just take us down the same road over again.

 

I love Matt as much as the next Saint but honestly, he should not have got involved in what he doesn't understand. To have the likes of Crouch advising him shows he's not up to being a Chairman. Club President fine! As I previously pointed out, even Ted Bates wasn't as naive and gullible to accept the job of Chairman.

 

Matt has and can easily get involved with things that like us all, he wants to belief will resolve things. Sadly he's been taken in and used like we all have when Wilde arrived, when Crouch preached that Allen was coming and when this mystery unnamed entity bluffed him and us all into a merry go round in the month of May.:mad::mad::mad:

I think it is too easy to write Pinnacle off.Im 90% certain that they will go forward, although Frys comments that he is now talking to others is brinkmanship or he is losing patinence as well. Not that I have time for Fry

[JustMike]

Anyway......I suppose, bearing in mind TL's statement about the FL faxing them across details of "what they want" do we assume that the Pinnacle team are locked up in a room somewhere going through all the fine detail ?

 

With a view to putting us all out our misery tomorrow ???

 

i bloody hope so

[Mole]

Anyway......I suppose, bearing in mind TL's statement about the FL faxing them across details of "what they want" do we assume that the Pinnacle team are locked up in a room somewhere going through all the fine detail ?

 

With a view to putting us all out our misery tomorrow ???

 

This is my take on proceedings. I know everyone is frustrated and worried, but now is the time for restraint and just a little bit more patience.

[offix]

Oh no!?? Just how many years did Matthew le Tissier let the likes of Rupert Lowe pull the wool over his eyes and con him then? How long did he remain under contract he signed with the said Lowe?? Matt's as naive and gullible as us all and have been taken in, and sunk, hook, line, and sinker.

 

And yes, I did notice Matt's name added to the Swiss offer in tonights Echo article. Getting involved with the likes of Crouch, Lowe, Wilde or any of those criminals who administered this club,those, who, together, brought our club into this situation in the first place, is beyond belief and will just take us down the same road over again.

 

I love Matt as much as the next Saint but honestly, he should not have got involved in what he doesn't understand. To have the likes of Crouch advising him shows he's not up to being a Chairman. Club President fine! As I previously pointed out, even Ted Bates wasn't as naive and gullible to accept the job of Chairman.

 

Matt has and can easily get involved with things that like us all, he wants to belief will resolve things. Sadly he's been taken in and used like we all have when Wilde arrived, when Crouch preached that Allen was coming and when this mystery unnamed entity bluffed him and us all into a merry go round in the month of May.:mad::mad::mad:

 

[1976_Child]

This is boll0x. Will someone please just buy our club? Christ, the squad must be totally fed up not knowing their future. I know we all are!

 

LOWE OUT

[suewhistle]

As I only get news about Gillingham on my telly can someone please let us know what is going on

 

You are lucky!!

[Ashby Saint]

Watched South Today on Sky - all for TL's no-news phone clip.

 

I'm not a business entrepeneur but my limited understanding of the type of people who are (and certainly those worth £100 million pounds etc) are that they are deal makers and not procrastinators. When they failed to complete Friday - I started having my doubts...

[Saint Billy]

 

Are my eyebrows in there somewhere!

[docker-p]

I didn't see the South Today interview; but on the Radio Solent interview played at 7pm, TL said their Lawyers would be going over the FL comments tonight, and probably all night, and would be going back to the FL tomorrow morning.