Wade Garrett Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 It's going on too long now over something that isn't said to be a deal breaker. I don't think it's going to happen.
70's Mike Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 there we are right in the sh*t and some are more worried that the BBC interviewed Nick Illingworth
hackedoff Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Anyone else starting to think this whole points deduction ******** is being used as a potential excuse to bail out of the deal? I fail to see what difference it makes if they want to buy the club or not. Naturally starting with minus 10 hinders you somewhat but not as much as starting with a crap squad, no manager, no season tickets, no board etc etc. Those are the things which are more damaging. These guys have had months now and should know everything there is to know about the club, its books and its positions. So i thik it is time now to put up or shut up. We all want you to takeover the club but don't fob us off saying you won't sign due to the points deduction. Spot on,these delays are going to be more detrimental to this coming season than the -10 points.
ART Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad:
Amesbury Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: I thought I was depressed at no deal this evening!
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I thought the same thing. I couldn't help feeling that South Today was trying to belittle the Pinnacle bid. Talked of Pinnacle being a 2 man operation established just 2 years ago and working out of a shared office. They showed a shot of a first floor bay window giving the impression it was a small concern. Also referred to Tony Lynam as being "Irish born" - I didn't realise that although you could hear it in his accent.I think it has been widely stated that TL was irish. First time I had heard Steels name, and i thought it said 4 years but could be wrong.Showing their office in a shared building put it into perspective of not being a massive operation, if was from another person spoken about on here it would be really scoffed at. Saying all that i still have faith in them as MLT would NOT do anything to risk the club he cares for. Time for brinkmanship is over, the FL hold the cards for our survival and the fans are behind the new people so they are quids in as they made the lesture and we should be happy by that.
offix Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: What a complete BS post!
manji Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: I am beginning to think you are right............................
exit2 Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: Eh? Can I ask why it is deceiving us, fry and the league? Just because we havent seen the director listing for company doesnt mean that FRY and The FL havent? Im guessing that Leon is involved and if he is then he league would have known when they receieved the director listing last week and then done their "fit and proper" means testing. Just because we dont know what is going on doesnt mean it is a fraud. Roll on the anti everything brigade
landford.saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: ART are you Nineteen Canteen? We have not had his cheery uplifting comments on here for a few days, then all of a sudden you appear with the same encouraging tone.
Barry the Badger Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I thought Nick came across much better than on his SSN phone interview.
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: ART no offence but you seem a bit a of a fruitcake.
maxi_sopez Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Dont people think now Pinnacle need to reveal who is behind them, they are losing trust quickly well it seems on here.....anyone can say they have a multi million pound man behind them BUT SAY WHO HE IS NOW, why isnt he speaking making announcements. Im doubting who is backing them and maybe if he even exists....
niceandfriendly Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The most important thing to come out of that peice on South Today were Tony Lynams words: "We will be buying the club" and "It will mean a compromise from either ourselves or from the League" so there is our answer, the deal is NOT dependant on the 10 points, and Pinnacle want the club with or without -10 points.
Crab Lungs Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Firstly, shut up ART. Secondly, ******** to the League, whether we sign their 'waiver' or not, we should challenge those bastards right to the very end. How unethical can you be to refuse someone their right to appeal? Old fuddy-duddies trying to justifyi their over-inflated salaries and egos by moving the goalposts and keeping themself busy in doing so. Take 'em on, Tony. Take 'em on, SFC. Don't give in, don't. Set the precedent for an overhaul of the FL. Beat them.
Wade Garrett Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Don't see what the big deal was about watching South Today, unless you were worried about that old lady's cat. Nothing interesting about the deal Tony. Just the normal it hasn't happened yet. Accept tha deduction. The crowd will be worth 10 points next season.
Saint Charlie Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Have faith, Pinnacle and Tony Lynam have put a lot of work in and they aren't stupid. They wouldnt have paid a significant deposit if they hadn't considered that this might happen. Tony said himself "We will buy this club", so lets trust him. He just wants the best deal possible as anyone would in his situation.
RedArmy Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Put your (or whoevers) money where your mouth is and sign on the dotted line then, Tony. We don't have time to fight the FL, they won't let us win, so get on with it so we can the manager situation sorted and prepare for Millwall.
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 (edited) Dont people think now Pinnacle need to reveal who is behind them, they are losing trust quickly well it seems on here.....anyone can say they have a multi million pound man behind them BUT SAY WHO HE IS NOW, why isnt he speaking making announcements. Im doubting who is backing them and maybe if he even exists.... :rolleyes::rolleyes: Don't you trust Matt Le Tissier? Edited 22 June, 2009 by exit2 no need!
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I have had a quick chat with a friend at the club and was very confident it is going ahead soon.I asked if that was down to TL's statement and was told no. All very relaxed about things, surprising as its their living
Wade Garrett Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Firstly, shut up ART. Secondly, ******** to the League, whether we sign their 'waiver' or not, we should challenge those bastards right to the very end. How unethical can you be to refuse someone their right to appeal? Old fuddy-duddies trying to justifyi their over-inflated salaries and egos by moving the goalposts and keeping themself busy in doing so. Take 'em on, Tony. Take 'em on, SFC. Don't give in, don't. Set the precedent for an overhaul of the FL. Beat them. To be fair to the league, the rules about administration were there when Rupert decided it would be a good idea a week after the deadline. Don't be angry with the league, be angry with the useless Lowe and Wilde. What a pair of useless w*nkers.
jimmysaint7 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I think it has been widely stated that TL was irish. First time I had heard Steels name, and i thought it said 4 years but could be wrong.Showing their office in a shared building put it into perspective of not being a massive operation, if was from another person spoken about on here it would be really scoffed at. Saying all that i still have faith in them as MLT would NOT do anything to risk the club he cares for. Time for brinkmanship is over, the FL hold the cards for our survival and the fans are behind the new people so they are quids in as they made the lesture and we should be happy by that. tony lynam is not buying the club why does it matter how big his office is? my friend could be a billionaire but i could live in a one bedroom flat does that mean he is poor
niceandfriendly Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Don't see what the big deal was about watching South Today, unless you were worried about that old lady's cat. Nothing interesting about the deal Tony. Just the normal it hasn't happened yet. Accept tha deduction. The crowd will be worth 10 points next season. The title of this thread does possibly suggest something more exciting than what was actually said, I agree. But, we have heard for the first time on South Today that the Pinnacle deal isn't dependant on the -10 points. They want the club either way. That's pretty bloody good news!
exit2 Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Posted 22 June, 2009 The most important thing to come out of that peice on South Today were Tony Lynams words: "We will be buying the club" and "It will mean a compromise from either ourselves or from the League" so there is our answer, the deal is NOT dependant on the 10 points, and Pinnacle want the club with or without -10 points. Don't see what the big deal was about watching South Today, unless you were worried about that old lady's cat. Nothing interesting about the deal Tony. Just the normal it hasn't happened yet. Accept tha deduction. The crowd will be worth 10 points next season. Some many people missed him say that. I had to rewind it on SKY plus so my missus could hear it
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Have faith, Pinnacle and Tony Lynam have put a lot of work in and they aren't stupid. They wouldnt have paid a significant deposit if they hadn't considered that this might happen. Tony said himself "We will buy this club", so lets trust him. He just wants the best deal possible as anyone would in his situation. Agreed..........there are some right bl**dy drama Queens on here.
offix Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Firstly, shut up ART. Secondly, ******** to the League, whether we sign their 'waiver' or not, we should challenge those bastards right to the very end. How unethical can you be to refuse someone their right to appeal? Old fuddy-duddies trying to justifyi their over-inflated salaries and egos by moving the goalposts and keeping themself busy in doing so. Take 'em on, Tony. Take 'em on, SFC. Don't give in, don't. Set the precedent for an overhaul of the FL. Beat them. This is frightening, but I actually agree with Cab Lungs!!
aintforever Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The -10 appeal thing is not a big deal in itself but it does effect the price of the club so it would mean changes to the deal so will add time. Fry has to do all he can to get the best price so will make sure this 10 point thing gets pushed as far as possible.
Wade Garrett Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The title of this thread does possibly suggest something mroe exciting than what was actually said, I agree. But, we have heard for the first time on South Today that the Pinnacle deal isn't dependant on the -10 points. They want the club either way. That's pretty bloody good news! I hope you're right. I am feeling very 'glass half-empty' at the moment. Wound me up seeing Marc 'Forrest Gump' Jackson's mug on the telly as well.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Dont people think now Pinnacle need to reveal who is behind them, they are losing trust quickly well it seems on here.....anyone can say they have a multi million pound man behind them BUT SAY WHO HE IS NOW, why isnt he speaking making announcements. Im doubting who is backing them and maybe if he even exists.... I am starting to come around to this way of thinking too. This whole thing is becoming a little farcical and Pinnacle are starting to lose my confidence. Now is the time for them to come into the open, tell us who the money man is, stump up the cash and let's get cracking. Too much talk not enough action from TL.
niceandfriendly Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Some many people missed him say that. I had to rewind it on SKY plus so my missus could hear it The BBC clearly cut a lot of his interview too. They put a very negative spin on the story and clearly some fans seem to have believed it - but the bottom line is that TL said they want the club and that they will back down in the League don't!
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 tony lynam is not buying the club why does it matter how big his office is? my friend could be a billionaire but i could live in a one bedroom flat does that mean he is poor Im not saying he's poor and dont care if he is but if you showed Marc jacksons office as those and he was the front i doubt he'd get the slack others were giving Pinnacle.It is MLT's presence that makes the difference.All these things are perception, and the perception perhaps fairly unfairly would be of smalltime.No offence to the people intended of course
pfc123 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Can someone please take shorthand and let me know as I live aoutside the south Today area. The headline in my parish is "Cat still stuck in tree - exclusive interview to follow". Any news on the cat? Getting worried. Hope it's allright. I mean, it must be cold up in that tree. Getting dark soon too. Must be hungry too. Poor little thing. We had a cat once and......
jimmysaint7 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 the person who should have sorted all this out is fry. he should have contacted the league to make sure he knew what he was selling right from the start, a club on minus 10 or a club that had the potential to start on 0 points
JustMike Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Im not saying he's poor and dont care if he is but if you showed Marc jacksons office as those and he was the front i doubt he'd get the slack others were giving Pinnacle.It is MLT's presence that makes the difference.All these things are perception, and the perception perhaps fairly unfairly would be of smalltime.No offence to the people intended of course Not just MLT's but that also of the backer worth "hundreds of millions" I like the way TL has gone about things and has worked very hard on it all. Its not his fault the league are being tossers over this.
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Any news on the cat? Getting worried. Hope it's allright. I mean, it must be cold up in that tree. Getting dark soon too. Must be hungry too. Poor little thing. We had a cat once and...... the only cat you'd have is the one of nine tails to whip your sailor boyfriends with.
SW11_Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I thought Nick came across much better than on his SSN phone interview. I did too, thought he did alright tonight. To be honest, he knows as much as us, and as a fan is just in limbo currently.
Crab Lungs Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 This is frightening, but I actually agree with Cab Lungs!! *shock* - Shows how far alot of us have come since the Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Lowe again debacle - Phew, it's all over! And I actually agree with Wade Garrett, who blasted Lowe and Wilde. This was on the horizon in March, it was very evident that we were only going one way... so we should have gone into admin before the deadline. There could, however, been other perumatations and until we know the real facts, we'll never know for sure whether Lowe or Wilde mismanaged that situation.
Give it to Ron Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Anyone else starting to think this whole points deduction ******** is being used as a potential excuse to bail out of the deal? I fail to see what difference it makes if they want to buy the club or not. Naturally starting with minus 10 hinders you somewhat but not as much as starting with a crap squad, no manager, no season tickets, no board etc etc. Those are the things which are more damaging. These guys have had months now and should know everything there is to know about the club, its books and its positions. So i thik it is time now to put up or shut up. We all want you to takeover the club but don't fob us off saying you won't sign due to the points deduction. Yep add me to that list....I have had that worry since Friday. There is something that doesn't add up in this. There is plenty out there of history on previous clubs getting points through admin...how many have actually won an appeal? None of this is new despite the 48 hour line. Enough bull just put up or move aside or is this the new plan....to get gazumped and try and save face?
Saint Billy Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The mere fact that Crouch has been involved shows that Pinnacle and Tony Lynam are deceiving us, deceiving Fry and deceiving the League. This is an identical scenario of Crouch and Co spinning us out for weeks on end that a deal was forthcoming, then handing over to Lowe and Wilde. Mark my words, this deal is one almighty FRAUD. Get on with the other offers Mark Fry and as for us supporters we are going to get no news for weeks now. :mad::mad::mad: Losing faith in the position of the moon art. Mate, we are all chewing our fingernails and sick to the back teeth of not knowing if our club is going to survive or not, but your post goes way to far when calling it an almighty fraud. If the deal does break down then vent off, but that has not happened yet. Give MLT some sort of credit, he would not be involved in anything that contained in it no hope.
aintforever Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 To be fair to the league, the rules about administration were there when Rupert decided it would be a good idea a week after the deadline. Don't be angry with the league, be angry with the useless Lowe and Wilde. What a pair of useless w*nkers. Exactly, not only relegating us twice, Lowe wasn't even capable of taking the club into administration properly. For the sake of a few days he has ****ed up next season and possibly killed the club. ****ing useless ****.
Elmore Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Anyone else starting to think this whole points deduction ******** is being used as a potential excuse to bail out of the deal? I fail to see what difference it makes if they want to buy the club or not. Naturally starting with minus 10 hinders you somewhat but not as much as starting with a crap squad, no manager, no season tickets, no board etc etc. Those are the things which are more damaging. These guys have had months now and should know everything there is to know about the club, its books and its positions. So i thik it is time now to put up or shut up. We all want you to takeover the club but don't fob us off saying you won't sign due to the points deduction. I'm starting to agree with this. Its just gone on far too long. Any other club would have tied this up by now - Saints fans are ever so patient. I just have a horrible feeling that the Pinnacle deal is not what most fans hope it is and the backer of the deal is now looking to get out. I hope I am wrong. At least the other bidders can now enter the frame so a resolution - for better or worse - will happen soon.
jimmysaint7 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Im not saying he's poor and dont care if he is but if you showed Marc jacksons office as those and he was the front i doubt he'd get the slack others were giving Pinnacle.It is MLT's presence that makes the difference.All these things are perception, and the perception perhaps fairly unfairly would be of smalltime.No offence to the people intended of course fair enough but the big difference for me is that mark jackson is a tit and a dreamer
dannysfc Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I Also Agree That This Is Starting To Become A Right Farce And I Would Rather That TL, MLT etc Should Just Take The -10 Points Rather Than Have No Club At All And I For One Am Confident That TL And That Will Eventually Take The Club Over And The FL Will Back Down And We Can Get On With The Season And Do The Talking On The Pitch ! Saints Till I Die!!
Crab Lungs Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 And another thing... why do we need to know who the money-man is right now? Answer? We don't... We've come this far, let's just let Pinnacle get on with it...
Viking Warrior Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 70's mike. I do not have anything against Illingsworth but when Solent appeared to cut Tony Lynam off and all but be-littled Pinnacle , they then introduced NI of the Saints Trust, that just antagnosed me as I want to hear actual facts on what is /is not happening. Not listening to the speculation and conjecture from Illingsworth.. "He states he spoke to some fans. What his mates PM RC and CF? Also 70/s Mike I think if solent had spoken to me, I would have come across as being very angry with the farce that is currently being played out. Anyway I did my bit with the media a few years back when we were seeking to move to St Mary's . My media days are long behind me Thank F***
The Rover Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I am starting to come around to this way of thinking too. This whole thing is becoming a little farcical and Pinnacle are starting to lose my confidence. Now is the time for them to come into the open, tell us who the money man is, stump up the cash and let's get cracking. Too much talk not enough action from TL. This worries me too. What possible reason could there be for Mr Big to remain a mystery man UNLESS he's someone who will either split the fanbase, be unpopular or not exist? The longer this goes on the more sceptical I feel. I also think it's scandalous that Worthing Council threatened to prosecute the lady for putting up posters asking for info about her missing Siamese. What is the world coming to?
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 To be fair to the league, the rules about administration were there when Rupert decided it would be a good idea a week after the deadline. Don't be angry with the league, be angry with the useless Lowe and Wilde. What a pair of useless w*nkers.Wade RL would have put us in to administration before if he knew that Barclays would pull hte plug.In facrt he would have sold any player in jan had he had any idea of that happening.He would have done that to save his skin and money.
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Agreed..........there are some right bl**dy drama Queens on here. It's un****ingbelieveable mate. Tony has categorically stated he'll be buying the club. Matt Le Tissier (our clubs greatest ever hero WHO IS NO MUG) is part of the deal. Some people need to stop and think for once.
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