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Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Lord whatever his name is said we had the right to appeal when the decision was made back in April....

so...why is everyone getting all up tight with the FL (on here) and saying they are blackmailing us etc

Beer Engine

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These are the restrictions placed on Leeds right to appeal the 15 point deduction:

 

4.1 Leeds hereby release the League ... from all claims, whether known or unknown to Leeds, which Leeds has or may have against [the League] arising out of or connected, whether directly or indirectly with ... the conduct of the League with regards to OldCo, the Conditions and the imposition of the sanction or, if passed, the Appeal Sanction (the “Claims”). (Emphasis added)

 

4.2 Except for the obligations created by this Agreement Leeds hereby covenants that it shall not ... commence, or threaten to commence any proceedings in any jurisdiction before any court, arbitration body ... against [the League] ... arising out of or connected, whether directly or indirectly with any of the Claims”. (Emphasis added)

 

Leeds FA Arbitration was dismissed on the basis of this clause alone.

lee_saint

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so...why is everyone getting all up tight with the FL (on here) and saying they are blackmailing us etc

 

You've just highlighted the point. They said we had the right to appeal back in April, after that they looked into our accounts themselves and probably gathered something then which highlighted the PLC and football club were not linked. They then decided we would not have the right to appeal because let's face it, they wouldn't want to be made to look like fools when the points would be over-turned....and I think they were expecting a new buyer not to question it.

Pancake

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the very point that it is a post on this place makes it anything other than FACT..:rolleyes:

 

Are you saying that a prospective new board member is posting fabrications on here?

trousers

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Are you saying that a prospective new board member is posting fabrications on here?

 

TBF to DD, I think Mr Lynam's posts on here allude to the FL stance on not being able appeal but doesn't actually state it categorically (well, according to my skim reading technique!). The latest Echo article has a much more direct quote from TL though, IMO.

trousers

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any quotes from the FL itself..?????

 

No. Fair point.

 

But why would Lynam state that he wants the right to appeal if the FL hadn't retracted it? So, by deduction, we can assume that the FL have retracted the right to appeal...IMHO.

Smirking_Saint

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I think that TL's comments were a little ambiguous at best TBF.

 

Does he actually 100% state that the appeal is off of the table ???

 

Think this tenpointergate is going too far.

 

TBF though, if they are taking our rights of appeal away.... they are c*nts.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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No. Fair point.

 

But why would Lynam state that he wants the right to appeal if the FL hadn't retracted it? So, by deduction, we can assume that the FL have retracted the right to appeal...IMHO.

i have no idea...take our eyes/attention away from other "issues" with their bid...TL does mention other "legalities"....

 

we have all been down this road before with Wilde in believing everything you are told...

Smirking_Saint

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TBF to DD, I think Mr Lynam's posts on here allude to the FL stance on not being able appeal but doesn't actually state it categorically (well, according to my skim reading technique!). The latest Echo article has a much more direct quote from TL though, IMO.

 

I must admit, the daily echo do have a faultless record of professional journalism and would never ALLUDE to anything in order to sell a few extra copies ? :D

Give it to Ron

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the very point that it is a post on this place makes it anything other than FACT..:rolleyes:

 

So are you saying TL is lying or not...he states quite categorically that the FL say we can't.

Come on don't come out with bull about Wilde...do you believe that TL is lying?

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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So are you saying TL is lying or not...he states quite categorically that the FL say we can't.

Come on don't come out with bull about Wilde...do you believe that TL is lying?

i hope he is not....

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Its my understanding that the Football League's own membership rules include provision for any decision of the FL on applying its rules to be subject to a right of appeal to the FA. It appears that, as with Leeds, the FL is trying to intimidate the new owners of SFC to get them to set aside a protection that is built into the FL's own rules. It must be right for the Pinnacle Group to try to resist this. The lawyers must be considering if there is a winnable recourse to law if the FL do not back down.

Channon's Sideburns

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Its my understanding that the Football League's own membership rules include provision for any decision of the FL on applying its rules to be subject to a right of appeal to the FA. It appears that, as with Leeds, the FL is trying to intimidate the new owners of SFC to get them to set aside a protection that is built into the FL's own rules. It must be right for the Pinnacle Group to try to resist this. The lawyers must be considering if there is a winnable recourse to law if the FL do not back down.

 

Hello Prof...haven't seen you on here for a bit...welcome back to the all-new, no conspiracy ridden Forum...we live in hope and trust in Pinnacle...!!

St Hando

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if we accept that we cannot appeal and the Pinnacle deal goes through, can we then take the FL to court claiming that the no right to appeal the 10-point deduction was illegal?

Dunno the legal stuff, just a thought...

Saint_clark

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Well Mark Fry has said it on the OS now as well, so does anyone think they are both lieing?

 

(And yes, he said it quite clearly).

 

"The Football League has insisted that in order to consent to a notice of withdrawal they require amongst other things an undertaking that the Football Club will not appeal the decision to deduct ten points next season."

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1698411,00.html

sidthesquid

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Mawhinney really is a tw0t, isn't he? Even for a politician. He clearly and publicly stated after the deduction that we had a right to appeal, then basically blackmails the club into foregoing it.

Fitzhugh Fella

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Hasn't TL in his latest message, posted earlier this morning, said he has not yet heard anything official from the league yet? I am feeling distinctly confused and a little worried. I'll put it down to age and administration fatigue!

sir_fred

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How on earth does the FL have the right to take away our possability to appeal? This is not the manner of an organisation in a democratic socitey. This sounds more like Uganda in the seventies... By all means it's also black mailing since we do not have any options.

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