NickG Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I am 85% confident that Pinnacle deal will be successfully concluded, this week, in time for staff to get paid towards the end of the week. How confident do you feel?
saintjay77 Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 50/50 for me at the min. On 1 hand I think the problems will get ironed out and -10 or legal issues or not Pinnacle are too far down the road to give up so we will get somewhere. However, There have been so many times over the past shed load of years where things should have gone one way or another but didnt I just cant see how things will be any different. I get the feeling that what ever we do, the FL will be co(ks and do what ever thay can to make an example of someone and I fear that they have chosen us. So things should get sorted out and we can look forward to a future but sods law says we will be the 1st to fold and have to enjoy both winning the league and getting relegated every year in the Super Duper League of 1 sponsered by Lord Malwancky.
NickG Posted 21 June, 2009 Author Posted 21 June, 2009 100% confident. 100% that we will be bought before season by decent owner 95% that it will be pinnacle 85%, actually feeling more positive 89%, that it will be in time for SFC's staff pay day on Thursday.
voteforpedro Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 70% Fairly confident Pinnacle will do the deal, but slightly worried that neither FL or Pinnacle will back down over the appeal.
NickG Posted 21 June, 2009 Author Posted 21 June, 2009 and even more confident that it won't be Jackson
Mole Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 and even more confident that it won't be Jackson I'm also 100% confident of that.
St_Tel49 Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 100% that we will be bought before season by decent owner 95% that it will be pinnacle 85%, actually feeling more positive 89%, that it will be in time for SFC's staff pay day on Thursday. I hope you are right - like every other Saints fan I just want this settled so I can buy my season ticket and get on with watching football again
Gemmel Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 and even more confident that it won't be Jackson Wife, kids and house on it
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 90% Yes. Despite Marc 't**t' Jackson's best efforts to scupper it, the attention seeking whore. Please finish the deal Pinnacle so I can have a great holiday.....
Saints foreva Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 80%, No doubt that will be down to 40% when I come on this forum tomorrow though..
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 About 70% at the moment. Hope by this time tomorrow that will have gone up to at least 90%- the wait is agonising.
SaintBobby Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 About 80%, but if deal not concluded in next 36 hours, this % starts to tumble fast.
L1Minus10 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Confidence in deal being done... 90% Confidence in getting away with the -10 points.... 0% Confidence in us not given bigger deduction for taking the p!ss - 50% Confidence that Marc Jackson could raise enough cash to buy a Subbuteo Stadium 0%
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 99.9%, the name MLT behind bid means we won't get let down!!
70's Mike Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 BEEN so many twists in turns , who is to say there will not be another one FL will say today they need to have deal between Fry and Pinnacle looked at to ensure all ok per their rules?
saintstr1 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I was fairly confident last friday but after sitting in front of this computer all day.......Nothing. Today is going to be another squeaky bum day, Just hope we have the right outcome this time , Confidence...... Around 80%
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Can anyone nip down to Staplewood to take training this morning?
gary r Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 no not at all, i think it will be a lot off legal banter being passed from one side to the other, with pinnacle pulling out leaving us up creek.
NickG Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Posted 22 June, 2009 Can anyone nip down to Staplewood to take training this morning? see my solent thread as they asked this question!
saintstr1 Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Can anyone nip down to Staplewood to take training this morning? Dont think there will be a lot done today , The players & Staff will be as anxious as the rest of us. They maybe will get a couple of poker schools going;)
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 "Nothing in life is certain except death, taxes and the second law of thermodynamics" - Seth Loyd
NickG Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Posted 22 June, 2009 even more confident after the MLT update on radio this monring.
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The whole points scenario worries the hell out of me! Whether the league are right or wrong, they will not back down!!! I think most of morally think we deserve 10 point penalty so why don't we accept it!! I am more worried about the mismanagement over the past 4 years that got us to this position! If we hadn't gone into admin, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
NickG Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Posted 22 June, 2009 Ten points isn't huge, therefore i feel there maybe some argument but eventually the FL will not want us to go out of business and lose a huge legal case nor will pinnacle want to walk away from this big investment over 3 wins and a draw.
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The whole points scenario worries the hell out of me! Whether the league are right or wrong, they will not back down!!! I think most of morally think we deserve 10 point penalty so why don't we accept it!! I am more worried about the mismanagement over the past 4 years that got us to this position! If we hadn't gone into admin, we wouldn't be having this conversation. This is really starting to wind me up now.........WHY should we accept it. As pointed out by another poster, the rules state that you are given a 10 point penalty for trying to gain an advantage by going into administration. We, as a club did not go into administration, and RL (even though I hate the man) tried everything to stop administration happening.....cripes, we couldn't of cut costs any further, and that cost us our place in the Championship.........so pray tell, what advantage Have we sought to gain???
SFC Forever Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 If we were to have the 10 points returned the rest of the clubs would be so ante saints every game would be a war.
Burger Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 whilst there is still a chance of this suceeding I will live on that hope....but no not confident. Can see an announcement that Pinnacle can not continue due to FL requirements. I would be happier if TL and MLT were meeting the FL....then a compromise could be reached. With FL meeting on their own I worry that it will just be a FL annoucement of their decision and Pinnacle have to accept it or walk.
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 This is really starting to wind me up now.........WHY should we accept it. As pointed out by another poster, the rules state that you are given a 10 point penalty for trying to gain an advantage by going into administration. We, as a club did not go into administration, and RL (even though I hate the man) tried everything to stop administration happening.....cripes, we couldn't of cut costs any further, and that cost us our place in the Championship.........so pray tell, what advantage Have we sought to gain??? Thing is, where did the money go Ging? How did we ever get in this situation? The football club is an empty vessel, its lifeblood was the holding company!! The whole scenario is murky at best, and I don't think the FL will back down! Really hope I am wrong fella, and that everything gets sorted today!1
SaintRobbie Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I am 85% confident that Pinnacle deal will be successfully concluded, this week, in time for staff to get paid towards the end of the week. How confident do you feel? This evening I hope.
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Thing is, where did the money go Ging? How did we ever get in this situation? The football club is an empty vessel, its lifeblood was the holding company!! The whole scenario is murky at best, and I don't think the FL will back down! Really hope I am wrong fella, and that everything gets sorted today!1 I agree........but the money issue is for the new (I hope) owners, and possibly the police. As to being murky........LOL.....that's one word;). My point is the FL's own rules, if we haven't broken them, why should we be punished. We don't write them, they do, if there is a loophole that can be exploited, then we should go for it. As would any other club in the country, and I include the Tyro in that!!!
Webby Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 It's like we're in injury time in the last game of the season and we need a win to stay up; it's 3-3 and we have a free kick on the edge of the box; step up Matty! Don't mess this one up son. I'm confident.
trousers Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 As this is football, one is duty bound to use a percentage in excess of 100....(as in "Rooney gave 120% out there today").....so, I'll go for 170%
ottery st mary Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 100%...We are there...Well almost.....Does that make me 99%. Positive thinking...It will all be signed sealed and delivered tonight and announced tomorrow....Does it ever come....100% COYRs
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 As this is football, one is duty bound to use a percentage in excess of 100....(as in "Rooney gave 120% out there today").....so, I'll go for 170% Arggggghhhh!!!!!!!:mad:....I know that was tongue in cheek, but you can't more than 100% of anything....It makes me so mad:mad:
trousers Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Arggggghhhh!!!!!!!:mad:....I know that was tongue in cheek, but you can't more than 100% of anything....It makes me so mad:mad: I agree when talking about an absolute amount of effort. However.... You start off with a bucket of sand. I then give you another 2 buckets, making 3 buckets. How much more sand do you have now than when you started, as a percentage?
Nexstar Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I expect a deal to go through on friday (obviously) as I can see "small issues" and "slight hitches" arising within the next few days.
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 I agree when talking about an absolute amount of effort. However.... You start off with a bucket of sand. I then give you another 2 buckets, making 3 buckets. How much more sand do you have now than when you started, as a percentage? When placed together, you still only have 100% of an amount, take away half of that, and you could argue you only have 50% left:confused:
ottery st mary Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 It's like we're in injury time in the last game of the season and we need a win to stay up; it's 3-3 and we have a free kick on the edge of the box; step up Matty! Don't mess this one up son. I'm confident. Shiiite!!! The ref has just second yellow carded Matty and now its the red and he is walking..Summink he said about The FL.......Up steps a young striker called Marco Jackson (previously worked in a circus) to take the free kick........The Saints crowd have just vacated the stadium.......:smt088
sadoldgit Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Ten points isn't huge, therefore i feel there maybe some argument but eventually the FL will not want us to go out of business and lose a huge legal case nor will pinnacle want to walk away from this big investment over 3 wins and a draw. Whilst 10 points is not huge, the principle is I'm afraid. The FL will not want to lose this one. They obvioulsy don't fancy the legal battle and will do all they can to prevent one, hence blackmail.
gordonToo Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The FL will not want to be seen to back down today so there will likely be fudge whereby SFC is admitted to L1 and an appeal allowed at some future date.
ART Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Split the difference and have done with it. The Football League can save face and announce that they feel they were justified in deducting the 10 points according to Administration regulations, but that new information has come to light and they agree Southampton Football Club was in many ways separate from the holding company ". .............as a result we, the Football League, have decided to an amical agreement and 5 points will be deducted in return for Southampton's new owners agreeing not to take the case to court. AMEN"
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 The FL will not want to be seen to back down today so there will likely be fudge whereby SFC is admitted to L1 and an appeal allowed at some future date. That would do me.
Foxstone Posted 22 June, 2009 Posted 22 June, 2009 Still 50/50 right now ! Still too many imponderables for my liking.
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