Guided Missile Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place....
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... A word from Fry would not go amiss either
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Fully accept that it seemingly would be a simple thing to say who it is, but there could be so many reasons for him wishing to stay annonymous currently, be they personal (not wishing for adverse publicity should things not pay off), proffesional (not wishing to lose face for the same reasons) or possibly even legal (ok, bit more pie in the sky there, but still.... possible surely.) If the guy has what it takes to save us from oblivion and give us the grounding to build for a positive future, I'm more then willing to give him that grace.
derry Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... If they don't get it all sorted on Tuesday, unless it is obviously being held up by the league with Fry co-operating, it may not happen at all.
leehoudini Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Who gives a flying one whether he reveals himself or not at the moment. The important thing surely is that come next week there is still a club to support.
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 I've heard a rumour he's a weedkiller magnate. Used to frontline politics then. Hope when the final roundup occurs he can weedol the naysayers.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Anyway, I'm 700 + miles away and I can smell the horse manure around SMS from here.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Fully accept that it seemingly would be a simple thing to say who it is, but there could be so many reasons for him wishing to stay annonymous currently, be they personal (not wishing for adverse publicity should things not pay off), proffesional (not wishing to lose face for the same reasons) or possibly even legal (ok, bit more pie in the sky there, but still.... possible surely.) If the guy has what it takes to save us from oblivion and give us the grounding to build for a positive future, I'm more then willing to give him that grace. It should have been fairly obvious to anyone with half a neurone that it wasn't all as on track as it seemed when it took the full 21 days. I want to believe but no-one has ever answered my original questions,why Pinnacle, why Lynam, why MLT.
ottery st mary Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Anyway, I'm 700 + miles away and I can smell the horse manure around SMS from here. That is not horse manure you smell it is all the Lowe Luvvies dancing around and waving their pom poms..They are shatting in their knickers over the loss of Rupes....They realise that some sensible football and busines peeps are about to take the club forwards...Get over it Ra Ra girls.:smt054
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 It should have been fairly obvious to anyone with half a neurone that it wasn't all as on track as it seemed when it took the full 21 days. I want to believe but no-one has ever answered my original questions,why Pinnacle, why Lynam, why MLT. I had assumed that it was simply due to solicitors dragging their feet (as they seem to always do when deadlines are in place..... why work within them and risk making yourself out of work for the last few profitable days...)
dubai_phil Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 I had assumed that it was simply due to solicitors dragging their feet (as they seem to always do when deadlines are in place..... why work within them and risk making yourself out of work for the last few profitable days...) Then why did Fry not give them an extension? Why waste time and effort over the weekend by asking others to bid when it was simply a couple of minor issues? Start with how much a week he is charging and work backwards. Technically, for 50 quid more than Pinnacle offered somebody else can now gain a period of exclusivity. Oh and ask Derry why the Swiss were p*ssed off, then google Silverjet administration, then worry
Leslie Charteris Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... GM, are you having a bad week? Are you just out for a wind-up? Do you know something we mere mortals don't? Pray tell.
NickG Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... what difference would it make at this stage? none just satisfy our curiosity.
offix Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 ......A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. We don't need any more proof of that. You have proven it yourself so many times over the last few years.
Evo Posted 20 June, 2009 Posted 20 June, 2009 Behind GMs bluster is a valid point. We've only really got MLT as an indication that this is not a Jackson style smoke and mirrors play. If it turns out to be some kind of leveraged debt deal with some anonymous investor in the background "just in case" the debt gets out of control, then I'll be pretty ****ed off to say the least. There's no indication that this is the case to be fair, though I can understand the frustration at the transparency on one hand (good comms from TL) and a lack of transparency on the other (anonymous money man).
Saintandy666 Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Unless there was a good reason to keep him secret. If the outting of him would be to the displeasure of many...
SaintBobby Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Why the hell should he reveal himself now? Just to satisfy the rants of a lunatic, delusional poster like Guided Missile on a web forum? And to Evo - we have more than MLT's word (although I would consider that to be enough). We have the administrator of SLH willing to sell him the football club. I don't think anyone is suggesting that the hitches are beacuse of a dodgy issue surrounding leveraged debt or something similar. Frankly, if I was worth £500m and was involved in a serious attempt to buy Saints, I'd want to stay anonymous until completion of the deal. Because if the deal didn't come off, I wouldn't want either (a) a risk of opprubium from disappointed Saints supporters or (b) to be continually associated with potential purchases of crisis-hit clubs in the tabloid media for the next decade at least.
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Then why did Fry not give them an extension? Why waste time and effort over the weekend by asking others to bid when it was simply a couple of minor issues? Start with how much a week he is charging and work backwards. Technically, for 50 quid more than Pinnacle offered somebody else can now gain a period of exclusivity. Oh and ask Derry why the Swiss were p*ssed off, then google Silverjet administration, then worry googled it but my brain is hurting Phil! What was the upshot? did they get stiffed by BT?
NickG Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Then why did Fry not give them an extension? Why waste time and effort over the weekend by asking others to bid when it was simply a couple of minor issues? Start with how much a week he is charging and work backwards. Technically, for 50 quid more than Pinnacle offered somebody else can now gain a period of exclusivity. Oh and ask Derry why the Swiss were p*ssed off, then google Silverjet administration, then worry I thought Fry said it was on hold awaiting an answer from the FL, as this issue would apply to anyone - in other words pending it for pinnacle.
alpine_saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... Another hit-and-run trolling thread from GM. What a surprise. I really wonder what his agenda is. He must be a Skate, or someone in serious need of attention and TLC...
Weston Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that?
Mole Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? Only SFC could go from a Gloucestershire Pig Farmer chairman to Priscilla Queen of the Desert in the space of 3 months.
Gingeletiss Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 and we should know who the guy is. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. .... Try this.........London property tycoon. worth about 150 Million. Not rich, not poor either.
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Not that I don't enjoy watching the monkey jump up and down, screeching and holding his tin cup out for coins, but let's face it, this isn't a drug deal, it's the purchase of a football club and we should know who the guy is. I am/have been, struggling to work out the possible reason for the reluctance of the man writing the cheque to show the leadership and backbone to blow Jackson et al into the weeds by identifying himself. A rough idea of his net worth would be handy as well, just to prove what a jerk-off I am for thinking that the reason he hasn't been named is because he doesn't exist. If there was ever a time to lay it on the line, it is now, because neither Fry, nor the f***ing Football League would be a problem for a guy that is worth several hundred million pounds. Come on, Tony, put me in my place.... What so you can do your own version of "Due Diligence" before he/she is in control of SFC? The situation isn't about who is going to buy us - thats been sorted with everything seemingly satisfactory. I fail to see how knowing the name of the money man/woman will change anything? Lets just say its Bill Gates - just because he has got an obscene amount of money doesn't mean we'll get a licence from the FL.
beatlesaint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I thought Fry said it was on hold awaiting an answer from the FL, as this issue would apply to anyone - in other words pending it for pinnacle. He did, but hell why should this forum let facts get in the way of a good old debate
OldNick Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that?If it is Dan Williams whats the problem? He is wealthy as far as I recall and just as he comes on a forum doesnt matter surely?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Try this.........London property tycoon. worth about 150 Million. Not rich, not poor either. do you know for fact or is this the word of a friend, of a friend ect? put another way, how confident are you? 10%, 50%, 100%.....
Gingeletiss Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 do you know for fact or is this the word of a friend, of a friend ect? put another way, how confident are you? 10%, 50%, 100%..... 50%...but a good source.....nothing is certain in life, but this person knows things. This is not given as a fact, but as an opinion. Time will tell. Personally, I like it to be Richard Branson.....but hey ho!!
sotonist Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Try this.........London property tycoon. worth about 150 Million. Not rich, not poor either. well that doesn't fit the description at all. are you saying TL is telling porkies?
gordonToo Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 If it is Dan Williams whats the problem? His dissembling sidekick perhaps?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? Help me Rhondda yeh, get her our of my heart!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 50%...but a good source.....nothing is certain in life, but this person knows things. This is not given as a fact, but as an opinion. Time will tell. Personally, I like it to be Richard Branson.....but hey ho!! I hope your friend is wrong - I want someone with more value than 150 million. I realise that is alot but im hoping for someone bigger with better connections. Yep Branson fits the bill....
SimonRichards Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Only SFC could go from a Gloucestershire Pig Farmer chairman to Priscilla Queen of the Desert in the space of 3 months. Thanks Mole for making me smile.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? same DW that was interested in Blackburn? "Blackburn fan"? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-463070/Businessman-confirms-Blackburn-takeover-talks.html
hackedoff Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 If I was this bloke who was prepared to throw millions at a failed business ,if all I was getting was grief from that business,s " customers " about my personal life/wealth etc I know what I would do.
CeeBee Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Oh how I miss HMR. Get back here my lovely. Life has just not been the same since you flounced out in a huff.
Amesbury Saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? I dont know almost all the people suggested who were going to buy the club. My view is that anybody who can guarantee that we watch Saints next season deserves a fair hearing. Clearly a MLT lead consortium is great but if it does not happen, then Dan Williams, Mark Jackson, Richard Branson etc all ok for me. But let the best man win. Andrew
Window Cleaner Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I hope your friend is wrong - I want someone with more value than 150 million. I realise that is alot but im hoping for someone bigger with better connections. Yep Branson fits the bill.... Same Branson as is dumping Brawn for next season cos the bill will get too heavy?Blokes like him don't feed money drains unfortunately.
alpine_saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? R, who gives a shiiite really who it is ? The administrator is satisfied that whoever it is has the funds, and MLT has been convinced the person has the welfare of the club at heart.
alpine_saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 If I was this bloke who was prepared to throw millions at a failed business ,if all I was getting was grief from that business,s " customers " about my personal life/wealth etc I know what I would do. Aye. Some of our "fans" are arrogant w**kers.
Guided Missile Posted 21 June, 2009 Author Posted 21 June, 2009 GM has a point though. Latest rumour doing the rounds is that Dan Williams is the "money man" That should please GM Oh, it is also rumoured that Dan Williams posts and reads this site. He registered 4 days after we went into Administration! Why would he do that? Oh Christ, Ron, don't tell me it's Dan Williams from Ringoes, New Jersey. That would explain everything. If he is the "moneyman" behind the deal, we're f***ed. No wonder he is keeping his name out of the deal. He's a bigger clown than Jackson...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Another hit-and-run trolling thread from GM. What a surprise. I really wonder what his agenda is. He must be a Skate, or someone in serious need of attention and TLC... To be fair to GM, he is only doing to the takeover talk what you did to discussions about our form last season. It's a bit rich for you to call him a trolling skate simply because he's asking questions of the takeover. Do you really have such a short memory for the sort of comments which came your way when you voiced your opinion? I'd like all this talk of multi-millionaires and transfer budgets to be true but I saw it all before with Mike "COYR" Wilde and, whilst I wish that this mystery bidder was all we hoped for, I'd also like to see some cards on the table as I'm a little jaded from the last 5 years. Say what you like about GM, but he had MW sussed out pretty well. I'd rather have him here vetting Pinnacle and potentially getting it wrong than have us all believe more spin and get let down again. "Fool me once" and that , you know...
4737_carlin Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I cannot recall this GM having Wilde sussed ? What did he do apart from go through his company accounts which showed nothing as his main stuff registred in Jersey and Isle Of Man. Did he have Wilde sussed when we where penalty kicks from the play off final ? If having one sussed is telling everyone is a wrongun then by chance you will hit some targets at some point ! I reckon nineteen canteen passes the troll baton to GM for the weekends
alpine_saint Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 To be fair to GM, he is only doing to the takeover talk what you did to discussions about our form last season. It's a bit rich for you to call him a trolling skate simply because he's asking questions of the takeover. Do you really have such a short memory for the sort of comments which came your way when you voiced your opinion? I'd like all this talk of multi-millionaires and transfer budgets to be true but I saw it all before with Mike "COYR" Wilde and, whilst I wish that this mystery bidder was all we hoped for, I'd also like to see some cards on the table as I'm a little jaded from the last 5 years. Say what you like about GM, but he had MW sussed out pretty well. I'd rather have him here vetting Pinnacle and potentially getting it wrong than have us all believe more spin and get let down again. "Fool me once" and that , you know... The stakes are much, much higher this time round. We either put our faith in a rich benefactor like the one behind Pinnacle, or we cease to exist nex month probably. Do I really need to remind you that we dont have much choice, and *****ing about it is counter-productive ?
Red and White Army Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 Aye. Some of our "fans" are arrogant w**kers. I would say this description fits you, but you can't be described as one of our fans. :tfrag:
Mole Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I cannot recall this GM having Wilde sussed ? What did he do apart from go through his company accounts which showed nothing as his main stuff registred in Jersey and Isle Of Man. Did he have Wilde sussed when we where penalty kicks from the play off final ? If having one sussed is telling everyone is a wrongun then by chance you will hit some targets at some point ! I reckon nineteen canteen passes the troll baton to GM for the weekends Nineteen Troll has been noticeable by his absense.:cool:
Guided Missile Posted 21 June, 2009 Author Posted 21 June, 2009 GM, are you having a bad week? Are you just out for a wind-up? Do you know something we mere mortals don't? Pray tell. I know a f*** sight more than you or any of the other posters believe and have done for a long time. I hope I'm wrong, but something just doesn't add up about Pinnacle. For a deal dreamt up in the Lock, Stock and Barrel, with a Mr. Andy H. supplying the link to MLT, I'm amazed that it has got as far as it has. I know a few millionaires and a couple of billionaires, but not one hangs around in said pub, nor lives in Locks Heath, no disrespect to Locks Heath. Mind you, if you run a flag up a very high flagpole you are bound to get one or two standing to attention, even if they may be total dreamers as well...
LGTL Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 GM, you crack me up. Well done, you know a few rich people, and you know more then everyone else, congratulations! Don't tell me, you have a 12 inch knob too??!!
Leslie Charteris Posted 21 June, 2009 Posted 21 June, 2009 I know a f*** sight more than you or any of the other posters believe and have done for a long time. I hope I'm wrong, but something just doesn't add up about Pinnacle. For a deal dreamt up in the Lock, Stock and Barrel, with a Mr. Andy H. supplying the link to MLT, I'm amazed that it has got as far as it has. I know a few millionaires and a couple of billionaires, but not one hangs around in said pub, nor lives in Locks Heath, no disrespect to Locks Heath. Mind you, if you run a flag up a very high flagpole you are bound to get one or two standing to attention, even if they may be total dreamers as well... Thanks for the insight, GM. If you are right then we're in for another very interesting episode of the SFC saga this week.
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