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If you cant work it out and have it explained to yuo time and again its not worth the effort.

 

And if you, and others CANNOT see that he will be back once a chance presents itself ......... then I agree, it is not worth the effort:cool:

 

PS .... exactly WHAT has been explained to me ???? ..... that in YOUR opinion, Lowe has gone forever ??? ....

 

You ARE entitled to your opinion ........ I do not share it.

 

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Yep, A) he has no asset to protect any more.

 

B) He's probably as glad that his association with us is over as we are.

 

 

A) He has "assets" to recover if at all possible

 

B) Can't recall him saying that

 

Mind you, when he was Ousted first time, I do recall him saying he wouldn't be back ........

 

........ it must have been a slip of his forked tongue .........

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I have heard rumours that Lowe is involved in one of the bids. I personally think he has some unfinished business at our club and at least we know we would have someone in charge that can run the finances well. And before you all start, he did ok until Crouch got involved!!

 

Get off our forum you plank.

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Hopefully we get takenover next week by a decent consortium.

 

Bournemouth away next week would be a nightmare if we got someone who is a complete joke or no takeover at all....

 

Agreed. I think its time to put Fry under pressure if he doesnt deliver soon. We no longer have the luxury of time if we want to appoint a decent manager, assess the team and buy and sell in order to make a challenge for a play off place. Leave this takeover any longer with everything else in place and I think we're in another relegation battle next season.

 

Come on Fry... deliver.

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And if you, and others CANNOT see that he will be back once a chance presents itself ......... then I agree, it is not worth the effort:cool:

 

PS .... exactly WHAT has been explained to me ???? ..... that in YOUR opinion, Lowe has gone forever ??? ....

 

You ARE entitled to your opinion ........ I do not share it.

 

Simples

 

 

As a relatively detached observer of the long running battles between some of the 'personalities' in the various 'camps' on this message board (and it's previous incarnations), I don't usually get involved in such 'wars of words'.

 

I'm not in a 'camp', personally. I believe that all who've been in 'power' at our Club over the last 10 years or so have to take responsibility for their parts in the demise of this great Club. They've all made mistakes, and all carry a share of the blame for where we find ourselves today.

 

Thing is though SaintRichmond, you don't do yourself any favours in the manner in which you present yourself here. As you rightly state above, all are entitled to their opinions, and all are entitled to disagree with them.

 

On this issue of Rupert Lowe however, whether or not you intend to do so, you consistently present your opinion that he "WILL" return, "make no mistake" etc, as though it were irrefutable fact, and it is this, that seems to me to really get people's backs up and invites the criticism that you seem to receive rather frequently here. ;)

 

Perhaps if you were able to tone down the manner in which you present your personal opinions as though they were nailed down facts, you may find that people are more inclined to treat you with greater respect, and listen to what you have to say?

 

Nothing personal my friend, just a neutral observation. Take it or leave it as you wish. :)

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Halo,

 

I bet someone posts on here accusing you of being a 'wishy-washy, knitted cardigan wearing, liberal'. Well balanced, intelligent, suggestions are not welcome in some quarters!

 

 

Lol, that is quite possible, although the beauty of developing an ability to not take such things personally, is that such comment would be received with detached indifference anyway. It would not even warrant a response. I don't care for arguments, labels, and endless blame-games. I just care about Southampton Football Club, and the sooner this takeover can be completed, and we can put all the bitter divides of the past behind us, the better. :)

 

Anyway, I'd better save my last post in case anything of significance occurs at some point today. I live in hope. :)

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I have heard rumours that Lowe is involved in one of the bids. I personally think he has some unfinished business at our club and at least we know we would have someone in charge that can run the finances well. And before you all start, he did ok until Crouch got involved!!

 

What planet have you been on!!!!!!!!!!

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Lol, that is quite possible, although the beauty of developing an ability to not take such things personally, is that such comment would be received with detached indifference anyway. It would not even warrant a response. I don't care for arguments, labels, and endless blame-games. I just care about Southampton Football Club, and the sooner this takeover can be completed, and we can put all the bitter divides of the past behind us, the better. :)

 

Anyway, I'd better save my last post in case anything of significance occurs at some point today. I live in hope. :)

 

You mean you're too tight fisted to pay the fiver to join !? ;) Cue loads of abuse since you are unlikely to want to waste that vital last post !!

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I was listening to the station at the same time.

 

They did indeed say we'll know "who Fry chooses" on Monday morning.

 

seeing as they broadcast from St. Marys, you'd think if any radio station was ITK, it would be them.

 

 

Governed no douby by who employed Begbies Traymor ......

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A) He has "assets" to recover if at all possible

 

B) Can't recall him saying that

 

Mind you, when he was Ousted first time, I do recall him saying he wouldn't be back ........

 

........ it must have been a slip of his forked tongue .........

 

 

Can you spell "obsession"??

 

Lowe is history, as far as SFC is concerned. Part of that history was good (SMS, Cup Final), part obviously not so good (relegation, administration, relegation). But it's done with, and you're crazy to think he'll be back.

 

Of the whole crowd of folk associated with the debacle that is Saints' history of the past 5 years, the only one who seems at all likely to play a future role at the club is Crouch, and with all due respect to him as a fan who has been willing to put his hand in his pocket for the club, I'd rather see a totally new broom. No Lowe, Crouch, Wilde, Askham, Cowen, Richards, Jones (the finance director): in short nobody who has held a position of responsibility at the club over the past 5 or 6 years, and I think that's what'll happen. At most I coulsd see Crouch and Jones hanging on in some capacity, but Lowe?? Not in a million years.

 

For what it's worth, I hope we don't get any re-tread manager either, not even if it's WGS. Second time around rarely works well, in my view; let's leave the past, the past.

 

A fresh new SFC under new ownership, directorship, management. That's my desire, and what I see coming out of this process if indeed Saints do get taken over and so survive.

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As a relatively detached observer of the long running battles between some of the 'personalities' in the various 'camps' on this message board (and it's previous incarnations), I don't usually get involved in such 'wars of words'.

 

I'm not in a 'camp', personally. I believe that all who've been in 'power' at our Club over the last 10 years or so have to take responsibility for their parts in the demise of this great Club. They've all made mistakes, and all carry a share of the blame for where we find ourselves today.

 

Thing is though SaintRichmond, you don't do yourself any favours in the manner in which you present yourself here. As you rightly state above, all are entitled to their opinions, and all are entitled to disagree with them.

 

On this issue of Rupert Lowe however, whether or not you intend to do so, you consistently present your opinion that he "WILL" return, "make no mistake" etc, as though it were irrefutable fact, and it is this, that seems to me to really get people's backs up and invites the criticism that you seem to receive rather frequently here. ;)

 

Perhaps if you were able to tone down the manner in which you present your personal opinions as though they were nailed down facts, you may find that people are more inclined to treat you with greater respect, and listen to what you have to say?

 

Nothing personal my friend, just a neutral observation. Take it or leave it as you wish. :)

 

 

I take your point.........but in mitigation, would comment .....

 

IF I were to say "I've got a feeling that Mr lowe may come back .... " I can assure you that I am shouted down as being Shrek's Father

 

Perhaps that is why I phrase things as I do .......... plus ..... I really DO believe he is scheming a(Third) return

 

Time will tell, and I can assure you ... Ido NOT want to be right:rolleyes::)

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Can you spell "obsession"??

 

Lowe is history, as far as SFC is concerned. Part of that history was good (SMS, Cup Final), part obviously not so good (relegation, administration, relegation). But it's done with, and you're crazy to think he'll be back.

 

Of the whole crowd of folk associated with the debacle that is Saints' history of the past 5 years, the only one who seems at all likely to play a future role at the club is Crouch, and with all due respect to him as a fan who has been willing to put his hand in his pocket for the club, I'd rather see a totally new broom. No Lowe, Crouch, Wilde, Askham, Cowen, Richards, Jones (the finance director): in short nobody who has held a position of responsibility at the club over the past 5 or 6 years, and I think that's what'll happen. At most I coulsd see Crouch and Jones hanging on in some capacity, but Lowe?? Not in a million years.

 

For what it's worth, I hope we don't get any re-tread manager either, not even if it's WGS. Second time around rarely works well, in my view; let's leave the past, the past.

 

A fresh new SFC under new ownership, directorship, management. That's my desire, and what I see coming out of this process if indeed Saints do get taken over and so survive.

 

" Lowe is history " .... just like he was before ?????

 

You have your opinion, I have mine

 

The only thing that will prove either of us right, is TIME

 

I HOPE that YOU are right

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And so be Satan, Bigfoot, the Abominable snowman and the Loch Ness monster!!!!

 

I guess you have proof of these?

 

 

Not all

 

You forgot Father Christmas ??? ......surely you are not going to break the hearts of millions of kids ???

 

 

PS Come to think of it .... my Missus is Bigfoot:)

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I take your point.........but in mitigation, would comment .....

 

IF I were to say "I've got a feeling that Mr lowe may come back .... " I can assure you that I am shouted down as being Shrek's Father

 

Perhaps that is why I phrase things as I do .......... plus ..... I really DO believe he is scheming a(Third) return

 

Time will tell, and I can assure you ... Ido NOT want to be right:rolleyes::)

 

This is proof of 100% clinical paranoia,, quite amazing really, but great to see from a medical case study perspective.

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ive just dropped my nipper to the ocean village cinema and the person i met ( not a football fan ) said he just saw the car which was on top gear...the ferarri FXX drive past and it was black like the one on the show ( which is owned by by Michael Schumacher )...the number plate was F1 LIX....the problem is that it could have been a ferari enzo as they do look simular but its worth a hope

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ive just dropped my nipper to the ocean village cinema and the person i met ( not a football fan ) said he just saw the car which was on top gear...the ferarri FXX drive past and it was black like the one on the show ( which is owned by by Michael Schumacher )...the number plate was F1 LIX....the problem is that it could have been a ferari enzo as they do look simular but its worth a hope

 

F1 LIX not insured for UK roads. Very naughty!

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ive just dropped my nipper to the ocean village cinema and the person i met ( not a football fan ) said he just saw the car which was on top gear...the ferarri FXX drive past and it was black like the one on the show ( which is owned by by Michael Schumacher )...the number plate was F1 LIX....the problem is that it could have been a ferari enzo as they do look simular but its worth a hope

 

The FXX is not supposed to be road legal, so an enzo it is then.

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where as an enzo and even more an FXX are....if it was an FXX there are only 3 or so leagal road going cars in the world and MS owns 1 of them....and if it WAS? an fxx without stripes then there is only one....model number 30 which was given to MS when he retired....so maybe MS is in southampton shopping then because no one saw hem leave or enter the stadium....i dont know but as i said it could have been an enzo

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where as an enzo and even more an FXX are....if it was an FXX there are only 3 or so leagal road going cars in the world and MS owns 1 of them....and if it WAS? an fxx without stripes then there is only one....model number 30 which was given to MS when he retired....so maybe MS is in southampton shopping then because no one saw hem leave or enter the stadium....i dont know but as i said it could have been an enzo

 

You mean 'The Stig' was in town! He's German, not Swiss. :)

 

If he's unveiled as the new owner will it be with or without white helmet!?

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Arguably, we were also stuffed the minute that we jettisoned Pearson and appointed JP and Wotte in his place. All is conjecture about what might have been, but what actually happened is a fact.

 

The one bright side is that Lowe, Askham and others from the old board have lost all of their share value and therefore have no further influence or power over our future. It remains to be seen whether we will be taken over by people with serious money to invest in us, but if that comes to pass, then that is a further massive plus, as it will be the first time that we will have owners with serious money. The end that got us here, might yet well justify the means.

 

If you sit down and divide the points gained with the amount of games played for Pearson and Wotte (and then remember that Wotte had a team full of kids) you will be surprised to find that Wotte's record is the better one. It might be surprising, him being foreign and all that, but it's true.

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Agreed. I think its time to put Fry under pressure if he doesnt deliver soon. We no longer have the luxury of time if we want to appoint a decent manager, assess the team and buy and sell in order to make a challenge for a play off place. Leave this takeover any longer with everything else in place and I think we're in another relegation battle next season.

 

Come on Fry... deliver.

 

 

Wow ! ! That really told him.

 

I bet he wasn't going to hurry at all,but now you have spoken firmly to him he will change his tune, huh ?

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And if you, and others CANNOT see that he will be back once a chance presents itself ......... then I agree, it is not worth the effort:cool:

 

PS .... exactly WHAT has been explained to me ???? ..... that in YOUR opinion, Lowe has gone forever ??? ....

 

You ARE entitled to your opinion ........ I do not share it.

 

Simples

What has been explained to you, you ask. That RL did not intentionally put us in administration
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I seem to have been following this thread for years and we still are not "THERE" yet. All this hoping, speculation and waiting for confirmation of a real takeover by wealthy investors is leaving me just a little unbalanced:rolleyes:

After 12 years of failure to add investment, fiascos like SISU and myths like P Allen, let alone twice relegation, we deserve some good news, dont we?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE!

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If you sit down and divide the points gained with the amount of games played for Pearson and Wotte (and then remember that Wotte had a team full of kids) you will be surprised to find that Wotte's record is the better one. It might be surprising, him being foreign and all that, but it's true.

 

Can you give us the exact figures for each manager then, as I seem to remember seeing ones quoted which showed the exact opposite. Thanks in advance.

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I got a lucky 16-1 winner and your tips???? Lol

 

A 6/1 winner which you did not back and that pure skill rather than in your own words:

 

Originally Posted by nickh

I forgot to take the tips. I did get lucky and had a 16-1 though St Columbis or something like that. Just pure luck a did a cou-ple of favourites but Larking came in second. Anyway £2 bets get you nowhere whatever.A good bit of fun and ended up only costing me a twenty for the 2 of us.

 

Just do NOT ask for any tips again lol. Someone asked me on FB for some tips for Great Leighs a while back which I duly provided, 3 good priced winners from 6. Like you they did not back any of them so indeed why bother lol :smt102

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