maxi_sopez Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Why would they put someone like him out there as a front, i dont understand what that does ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I start to feel like a rather sad person logging on in the ridicolous hope that I will find some news here which will make me believe again. So I went back to page 57 to see what had happened and found a string ot posts declaring with euphoria that the deal was done, humbe pie had to be eaten, and whatnot. So I'm desperately looking for the foundation for this and it seems to be MLT finally realising that FL won't budge on the 10 points! I seem to think that throughtout the week I have said that that the FL won't budge. MLT has now seen the light? Maybe we're all too desperate for our own good. The Fialka business is still strange. The family is wealthy, say Fry, when dad drives a taxi and mum sells underwear from a pink shop in ****fosters, and when the Echo would like to have a little bit of substantiation for the wealth MF got miffed that he wasn't believed and threatened to scupper the deal! Please!!!!!! Even if the bloke is fronting the deal for his fantastically wealthy friends (hundreds of millions said TL) how come these immensely rich people chose MF as their frontman? They can Google as well, can't they? There is a myth spreading that "real" rich businessment are amazingly secretive and manage to keep their names out of every deal they are making. In the maffia, maybe, but not in the real world. And masquerading as a letting agent living at home to cover up the immense wealth? With due respect, that is poppy****. Rich people are known, even if they don't give interviews. I'd love to believe, I really, really do, but why does the scenario seem so unbelievable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what happened to FF thread this morning about texts???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 any evidence of this? yes - direct quotes from Fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what happened to FF thread this morning about texts???? Maybe his post had implications the sites owners didn't want to expose themselves to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Maybe his post had implications the sites owners didn't want to expose themselves to?I was fun though,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what happened to FF thread this morning about texts???? As I asked earlier in this thread. Has it been pulled because the names were relevant? If so, I hav no problem with it. Or was it theft of an email? Or just poor speling? or libelous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 As I asked earlier in this thread. Has it been pulled because the names were relevant? If so' date=' I hav no problem with it. Or was it theft of an email? Or just poor speling? or libelous?[/quote'] it was dangerous legally I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what happened to FF thread this morning about texts???? I suspect it vanished round about the same time as MF's lawyers were (allegedly, according to something I read) speaking with the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 it was dangerous legally I would have thought FF has been posting strangely for a few days. I think he needs to have a lie down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 FF has been posting strangely for a few days. I think he needs to have a lie down. only a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Or on the part of a very abused Pinnacle!!!!!!!!!! I think if this goes through the abusers should hang there heads in shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I think if this goes through the abusers should hang there heads in shame! I will have a slice of humble pie please, but feel we should leave a few platefuls for GM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If we can get agreement from the Football League on that basis I would consider it a resounding success on our part. Yes, I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I will have a slice of humble pie please, but feel we should leave a few platefuls for GM... He will need the whole buffet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Hope this is all true and Pinnacle complete the deal on Monday (see no reason why it should be prolonged any further), but I am still sceptical and maybe this is just another false dawn. I hope the Swiss press on.....just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If we can get agreement from the Football League on that basis I would consider it a resounding success on our part. Completely agree! You should post on here a little more often you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Completely agree! You should post on here a little more often you know! Trouble is he'll go around as if he owns the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I will have a slice of humble pie please, but feel we should leave a few platefuls for GM... And shove them up his firkin ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Why would they put someone like him out there as a front, i dont understand what that does ? Is does absolutely f all to the credibility of Pinnacle. What a bad joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Can someone please explain the money man, has anyone found out yet if hes worth anything, as i live in North London i saw the jewish chronicle article and i am so sceptical about him and whether he has any cash?!?! I havent been online since yesterday sometime so not sure if there have been any developments? The most important thing is to get us out of administration first. If Fry is satisfied he has enough money to buy the club then that will do for now. Perhaps he is confident he can turn Saints fortunes around just enough to sell to someone who has more dosh, and he makes a profit. We all win. He is a football man, and sounds like he has the personality to bring it off. I am happy with any small morsels that see us survive. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersaint316 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 SOmething that made me Laugh when Looking at Tony Lynams Bio. Had to print screen it! http://img4.imageshack.us/i/17180466.jpg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 No evidence whatsoever, that is why I put MAY. If his finances are as has been reported theremust be other money surely? The Jewish Chronicle did ask this question. I don't care so long as we beat Friday's final deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 You seriously think the Pinnacle deal will happen? After all we know now? You still WANT the Pinnacle deal to happen, after all we know now? Jesus wept. I'm praying for the Swiss to come through now. Just for a moment if we pretend that they could somehow get 14m together over the weekend, can you imagine how this clown would carry out transfer negotiations? Jesus wept. I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 You seriously think the Pinnacle deal will happen? After all we know now? You still WANT the Pinnacle deal to happen, after all we know now? Jesus wept. I'm praying for the Swiss to come through now. Just for a moment if we pretend that they could somehow get 14m together over the weekend, can you imagine how this clown would carry out transfer negotiations? Jesus wept. I despair.If they complete then at least we will have transfers to talk about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 That's why I'm pinning my hopes on the Swiss, who I know nothing at all about. Better the devil you don't know in this case. It's a farce, the whole thing. So depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8122688.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 http://thejc.com/articles/jewish-property-man-fronts-bid-buy-southampton-fc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 You seriously think the Pinnacle deal will happen? After all we know now? You still WANT the Pinnacle deal to happen, after all we know now? Jesus wept. I'm praying for the Swiss to come through now. Just for a moment if we pretend that they could somehow get 14m together over the weekend, can you imagine how this clown would carry out transfer negotiations? Jesus wept. I despair. In my heart of little black hearts I know that you are right. I am trying to be positive about Pinnacle on the basis that any takeover is better than none - but you have to question the wisdom of putting the whole club at risk and not paying the staff for the apparent sake of pursuing an unwinnable argument that is about to be conceded. But like you say, I'd rather the devil I don't know too - bring on the cuckoos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Dunno about anyone else, but, while I'm happy that Pinnacle have decided to concede on the -10 points and go ahead, I can't help but wonder what the Swiss deal would be worth to the club. What's their plan? Who would be chairman, manager, etc? How much would they invest in the team? To be fair, the only thing we know about Pinnacle is that Matt will be chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I may be wrong, I'm not ITK and this is pure speculation but ... ... I've got a feeling that Pinnacle's amazing climb down on the appeal issue might be due to the fact that they have realised that they've overplayed their hand and there is now real competetion for the club in the form of the Cuckoo Clock Consortium. I certainly don't think Pinnacle should have a free run next week if someone else is serious and has the money. Let battle commence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Is this the longest thread ever? If not, but we keep asking ourselves if it is, will it become one? Might it make it to 100 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannysfc Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Dunno about anyone else, but, while I'm happy that Pinnacle have decided to concede on the -10 points and go ahead, I can't help but wonder what the Swiss deal would be worth to the club. What's their plan? Who would be chairman, manager, etc? How much would they invest in the team? To be fair, the only thing we know about Pinnacle is that Matt will be chairman. I Am Beginning To Agree With You Here Webby Mate And That I Have Come To The Conclusion That It Is Good News That Pinnacle Have Agreed To Take The -10 Points And To Get A Move On In Buying This Club As We All Want Matt To Take Our Club Forward In Some Way Which We All Hope Will Happen ! COYR !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I Am Beginning To Agree With You Here Webby Mate And That I Have Come To The Conclusion That It Is Good News That Pinnacle Have Agreed To Take The -10 Points And To Get A Move On In Buying This Club As We All Want Matt To Take Our Club Forward In Some Way Which We All Hope Will Happen ! COYR !! What's the weird capital letters thing? Reads like your talking in a strange staccato voice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 What's the weird capital letters thing? Reads like your talking in a strange staccato voice.... LOL - I thought that to - quite weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 A couple of significant bits from Matt's interview on the BBC site: "Michael Fialka is a part of the group. A lot of time, effort and money has been committed and it would be silly for us not to see it through." "I've spoken to the [group] owner this morning and he's confirmed that once the Football League issues have been dealt with, it will only be a matter of hours after that that we can complete a deal." So confirmed that Fialka is only part of a group and strong implication that he is not the leader of the group. To my mind that restores a lot of the Pinnacle Credibilty that was lost when Fialka came forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 If the news is to be believed that Pinnacle will sign the deal on monday or tuesday Dose that mean the staff at the club have now been paid or will they have to wait a few more days before all the legall transactions to be completed etc etc. PS did they ever find the Missing cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I may be wrong, I'm not ITK and this is pure speculation but ... ... I've got a feeling that Pinnacle's amazing climb down on the appeal issue might be due to the fact that they have realised that they've overplayed their hand and there is now real competetion for the club in the form of the Cuckoo Clock Consortium. I certainly don't think Pinnacle should have a free run next week if someone else is serious and has the money. Let battle commence! You are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 tbh even if Pinnacle complete i would not be sure the club is in the safest of hands. I would be happy to still have a club to support htough obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 So (MLT) confirmed that Fialka is only part of a group and strong implication that he is not the leader of the group. MLT told us the exact opposite of that on Friday did he not :confused: - I don't think Matt knows very much about the finances behind this bid in all honesty so I'd take his pronouncements on the money matters (genuinely intended I'm sure) with a pinch of salt . It would inspire more confidence if the Pinnacle Bid came up with a consistent story and stuck to it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 The Jewish Chronicle did ask this question. I don't care so long as we beat Friday's final deadline. Whatever happens the deal won't be done on Friday - isn't that the Jewish Sabbath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Whatever happens the deal won't be done on Friday - isn't that the Jewish Sabbath? You cleary were smoking behind the bike sheds during R.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 You seriously think the Pinnacle deal will happen? After all we know now? You still WANT the Pinnacle deal to happen, after all we know now? Jesus wept. I'm praying for the Swiss to come through now. Just for a moment if we pretend that they could somehow get 14m together over the weekend, can you imagine how this clown would carry out transfer negotiations? Jesus wept. I despair. After this weeks circus I certainly share your concerns re Pinnacle,and how they have conducted issues to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 A couple of significant bits from Matt's interview on the BBC site: So confirmed that Fialka is only part of a group and strong implication that he is not the leader of the group. To my mind that restores a lot of the Pinnacle Credibilty that was lost when Fialka came forwards. It begs the question as to why they wheeled him out to face the media,without fully explaining the situation regarding the involvement of others. Until a satisfactory answer is given,or full details known,it does nothing to restore confidence.Completely the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 After this weeks circus I certainly share your concerns re Pinnacle,and how they have conducted issues to date. me too. I just hope the Swiss push on in case this is another promise to complete that Pinnacle let us down on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I thought Jacko was in the wings with an offer should Pinnacle fail. Marc, have you got the liquid assets yet? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul7 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I really don't know what to think anymore. A lot of things with the Pinnacle bid don't add up, but for me, they are still my preferred option. That said, I think it's only due to the involvement of MLT, so it's probably a case of my heart ruling my head. Bottom line is that if someone doesn't buy us next week we're screwed, so let's hope that one of the interested parties comes through for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Is this the longest thread ever? If not, but we keep asking ourselves if it is, will it become one? Might it make it to 100 pages? I asked that back on page 20 something but no one replied. If we keep asking it, you're right, we might make it the longest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 A couple of significant bits from Matt's interview on the BBC site: "I've spoken to the [group] owner this morning and he's confirmed that once the Football League issues have been dealt with, it will only be a matter of hours after that that we can complete a deal." So confirmed that Fialka is only part of a group and strong implication that he is not the leader of the group. To my mind that restores a lot of the Pinnacle Credibilty that was lost when Fialka came forwards. Hmm I read MLT's comments as referring to Tony Lynam as the group Owner. You think MLT meant head money man and someone other that Michael Fialka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 28 June, 2009 Share Posted 28 June, 2009 You are No, I'm not so sure he is wrong. I think Mark Fry might be proving why he earns very good money. We can all scream on here for Pinnacle to point the python or exit the urinal, but when Fry does so, he might succeed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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