saint_stevo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is it a bit odd that when asked if he had a name for the manager he said we have 'several names'. I assumed that they were so close to a take over that they would be ready to name the ONE man they want straight away? Or is that just me? Kevin Keegan- Baby, piglet and snookums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is it a bit odd that when asked if he had a name for the manager he said we have 'several names'. I assumed that they were so close to a take over that they would be ready to name the ONE man they want straight away? Or is that just me? Maybe his number one manager target is currently at another club. Thus no guarantee he can get him, so he has a list of other names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I think we're FUBAR. Either the League thing is about an extra -15 and the CVA etc, and we're screwed every which way, or, and this seems more likely, there was no money man, or he pulled out, and TL has been using this to play for time to line up someone else, who he paraded as soon as he could. He's not been very straight with us. If it was just about -10, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. I think the mirrorshades were the last straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I think we're FUBAR. Either the League thing is about an extra -15 and the CVA etc, and we're screwed every which way, or, and this seems more likely, there was no money man, or he pulled out, and TL has been using this to play for time to line up someone else, who he paraded as soon as he could. He's not been very straight with us. If it was just about -10, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. I think the mirrorshades were the last straw. Whats wrong with mirrorshades ?? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Can anyone put up a link? It was widely reported at the time and I saw it recently through a link somewhere on this forum but it seems to have disappeared! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4315772.Saints_to_appeal_Football_League_decision/ http://www.thisishampshire.net/sport/4316287.Football_League_chairman_defends_decision_to_dock_10_points/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whats wrong with mirrorshades ?? It's all a bit william gibson, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Whats wrong with mirrorshades ?? It's all a bit william gibson, innit? Had no idea who that is.... so i google imaged him. Still see no relevance to the mirror shades, just some dodgy specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Phewwww talk about needing patience is this ever going to happen i've gone from being very optimistic to now thinking that the pinnacle bid might not happen at all ,i'm sure i read somewhere that the wages were going to get paid why is that not happening now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 don't think they ever said they would be paid, talked about being aware and having plans etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 prettu sure TL said the staff would be paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 prettu sure TL said the staff would be paid So did i. I'll dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 happy to be correct but didn't think they did, thought said contingency plans, remember MLT saying it is concern and something we are aware of - going short of saying will psy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Pedro Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 He did say 'my' takeover suggesting there are no other 'money men' involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Lynam also indicated that the staff wage bill due later this week at St Mary's would be settled. "I think we have to be fair to all the staff, their patience has been tested to the limit. They're clearly our top priority," he added. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8113850.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 just scan read the pinnacle update thread and can't see any thing about paying wages there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8113850.stm Cheers mate, I forgot i said i'd dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8113850.stm that's right, have always been saying they are aware date is looming and want to get it sorted - but never said they will pay if haven't bought club by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 prettu sure TL said the staff would be paid Yep, I heard/read that somewhere as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 where I can't find it and all his updates are on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 yesterdays echo stated that staff had been told in writing that will only get paid if takeover completes hth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 To be fair I have not seen him state they would pay the wages, only what the BBC reports above in saint stevos post & there is no quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 He did say, during his interview with SSN this morning, that they had a contingency (if the take over was delayed further) to get the wages paid but this may take a couple of days. Or something to that affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 MF said they paid them a day late last month, and hoped it wouldn't be much different. Harsh, but its not their problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerchampion Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Michael Jackson is dead , fox news 20 mins ago he passed away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Yep, I heard/read that somewhere as well. I'm sure I read it in an Echo piece quoted somewhere on here earlier today, but cannot remember which thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 just checked yesterdays hard copy - says in there only way will be paid is if it completes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 mlt on solent few days ago would confirm payment either when asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Had no idea who that is.... so i google imaged him. Still see no relevance to the mirror shades, just some dodgy specs then don't just effing google it. think about it, learn. read a book. the world aint at the end of a google search you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 then don't just effing google it. think about it, learn. read a book. the world aint at the end of a google search you know. Sorry oh font of all knowledge. Blessed be you with a brain to rule all. [-o Should i ask something about fault levels in a 400 MVA network ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Sorry oh font of all knowledge. Blessed be you with a brain to rule all. [-o Should i ask something about fault levels in a 400 MVA network ?? Quite. Hey, I'm no electrician, but ask away... ...did I get that wrong, should I google it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Quite. Hey, I'm no electrician, but ask away... ...did I get that wrong, should I google it? Almost... Nah i am not going to get funny, Just saying i don't know who the bloke was, have no interest, had a quick search, i know t'net is pretty **** as far as info is concerned especially quick fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Almost... Nah i am not going to get funny, Just saying i don't know who the bloke was, have no interest, had a quick search, i know t'net is pretty **** as far as info is concerned especially quick fixes. Furry Muff. ;-) Quite agree, t'internet is not good for proper knowledge... ...but William Gibson maaan. You should really know what he's all about.:-) This is, quite clearly, not takeover gossip. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo's a pansy Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Michael Jackson is dead , fox news 20 mins ago he passed away He wasn't the secret buyer was he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popyto Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 He wasn't the secret buyer was he ? That joke came quicker than I thought:) speculation will be rife if the deal collapses later today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 perhaps it didn't need a new thread, sorry Swiss are working with Fry over weekend and likely to have exclusivity by Monday then -unlike Pinnacle they have funds to complete source - Solent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=320459#post320459 I wrote this a few weeks ago and sadly it turns out that I was correct I'll believe it when I see it. There are plenty of people with money in the world, and the self-made ones won't be the type to throw money away willy-nilly, which is pretty much what investing in a football club is. Any sort of discounted cash flow analysis is a non starter given our expenses will exceed our income anyway, and even if we do turn profitable at the operating level then the required rate of return on a high risk investment like this would definitely leave the project with a NPV I really doubt a fan would have let us be relegated and start next season on -10 points or worse. I really doubt someone sees us as a credible money making venture given the right capital outlay. My guess is that the new owner sees his investent in Saints as a low cost "option", i.e. the chance of making some money if we get promoted and he can sell us on. I think the chance of him putting worthwhile capital into the club is tiny - our revenues are going to be miniscule next year and we're going to be struggling to break even in League 1 even without many of our highest paid players. I also think the owner knows most fans will be dissappointed when they find out his identity and that is why he is still in hiding. My worst fears have been confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I got a good feeling about today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 I got a good feeling about today. Good lad lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Announcement 10:30am by Mark Fry, source - mate listening to Solent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Announcement 10:30am by Mark Fry, source, Solent of what MB?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 of what MB?? Regarding takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 ahh!!!!! Mr Fry, we've been expecting you!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 of what MB?? My guess (head ruling)- Pinnacle have reluctantly withdrawn because of the FL's refusal to reconsider their position. My guess (heart ruling)- Pinnacle have reluctantly accepted the FL position but have guarantees of only -10 and the real money man with hundreds of millions is .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 solent said that fry would be meeting with staff at 10:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 solent said that fry would be meeting with staff at 10:30 That's not the same as an announcement, or is it as well as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 That's not the same as an announcement, or is it as well as? unsure. He needs to do something, and fast. Rumours were that he was going to give the Swiss exclusitivity on monday, id do it now to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkdcdes Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 i am wondering why when an update from T.l. would be more needed than ever it is not forthcoming. Is it because the process is unravelling and he is too busy plugging the leaks in an unworkable bid. As i said 3 days ago, something is not right and that is blatently obvious now. I feel sorry for M.L.T as i have a horrible feeling hes been used in this. I really want to be wrong, but if i am, i fear the deal would have been done over a week ago. When i was in sales and a buyer has been closed and has no where to go other than hand over the money, on many occassions i would get what i call, the ********. Which is excuses like, i would buy but have just heard my wife is pregnant or i just need to talk to my financial adviser or i will be back later etc. What i am hearing now from Pinnacle sounds depressingly like ...the ******** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Why not let the football club go into administration now. Then the FL paperwork can be signed off and the purchase go ahead, and then the FL can try to explain how the club could have gone into administration twice without having been rescued inbetween. Is there something in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Why is everyone saying we will start with -25, when we know we will start with -10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK Posted 26 June, 2009 Share Posted 26 June, 2009 Just heard the MLT live interview on Solent at 0820 this morning, and as much as it pains me I've got to say I was not convinced by Matt. If he was not the legend he is and just someone we did not know acting as a spokesman I would be completely dismissing The Pinnacle interest. He confirmed Fialka was the only money man as far as he knew but apart from that he was very defensive and did not really shed any light on how they are going to resolve the problem and move forward. I would love to be proved wrong but I don't think these guys have the money or the know how to move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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