RonManager Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I'm not interested in the blame game but we have suffered multiple whammies:- 1. relegation from the prem 2. relegation from the CCC 3. messy administration 4. 10 points deduction 5. possible further relegation or minus 15 more points even the most optimistic skate couldn't have made this up ... Most of them aren't capable of 1 thought at a time, let alone 5. :smt115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What time does The Farmer usually post his reassuring daily message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 what i dont get is after paying money to have excluseivity why wait about when another consortium could come in and steal the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What time does The Farmer usually post his reassuring daily message? or abusive PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 i was thinking last night, since we scorned GH we certainly have suffered.Perhaps some of his praying has worked afterall. add to your list beaten in the play-ofs cruelly and perhaps liquidation. A Pompey fan has definately let a genie out of a bottle Yes, that referee for the home leg against Derby basically allowed them to kick us off the pitch. ***t. Yeah GH and the curse of the dead Saxons too maybe ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What time does The Farmer usually post his reassuring daily message? Was mid-afternoon yesterday. I like the new avatar BTW. Don't the Iranians make chocolate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Yes, that referee for the home leg against Derby basically allowed them to kick us off the pitch. ***t. Yeah GH and the curse of the dead Saxons too maybe ...?it all has happened post the rebuff of GH. Before then it was hunky dory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Don't the Iranians make chocolate? Who torte you that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Was mid-afternoon yesterday. I like the new avatar BTW. Don't the Iranians make chocolate? Lol I thought it was a Yorkie. I was thinking what the hell is that to do with anything unless Eddie Stobart was buying us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saturday Boy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Here come the Swiss! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4459018.Swiss_group_arrive_for_Saints_talks/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 We Are Saved ! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4459018.Swiss_group_arrive_for_Saints_talks/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navysaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 It time that Pinnacle outed the reason that they can't agree with the FL. What are the FL going to do not issue us with a licence, give us a points penalty? Time to clear the air or i can see a freedom of information request being lodged.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Here come the Swiss! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4459018.Swiss_group_arrive_for_Saints_talks/ Damn...was trying to keep that quiet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Oh well, I was waiting for takeover day to hit my 1000 posts but I can't wait any longer. Block 5, you don't have to eat your scarf! The wait is all getting a bit bum jangly now and the silence is deafening. I still hold out some hope but it is diminishing by the hour. I still find it hard to believe that Pinnacles backers would be prepared to invest a large wad and then not complete the deal, that is my only hope of it still going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I'm just beginning to lose fiath in Pinnacle. Given a straight chocie between Pinnacle and the (unknown) Swiss, I might now prefer to take a punt on the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Damn...was trying to keep that quiet.... 1 Swiss = 3 Pinnacles - is that what you're saying? OMFG, we're minted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Yes, I was all for Administration .......... but even I did not think that Barclays?Lowe would be STUPID enough to wait until ONE week after the Leagues cut off date before doing so .... that in itself STINKS, it guarenteed -10 Pinnacle ??? ..... IMHO, have never really come across as being 100% sincere. We knew and they knew of the 10 point penalty, and not many pundits thought that we could get out of it ............ yet Pinnacle have been making great play re this .... WHY ??? ........The Mystery Man is just that, a complete MYSTERY ..... a Load of Irish Blarney Everybody knows who I think will end up back in control ..... I have always thought this, as I think that he started the whole ball rolling. It won't be long before we are put in the real picture If that was the case then I think that in all probability I would not be able to continue with the agony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I'm just beginning to lose fiath in Pinnacle. Given a straight chocie between Pinnacle and the (unknown) Swiss, I might now prefer to take a punt on the latter. It is pretty certain that WHOEVER Buys us will HAVE to accept :- The FL's -10, plus -15 ... plus anything else the FL chuck at us Jackson WILL accept such constraints .... but I cannot see anyone else accepting them In effect, we would already be in Div 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 We are to be Pinnacled for sure.....They will do it today...Sort it out TL and team.. The wages must be paid later today...no doubt Leon Crouch to the rescue again... We are almost there...COYRs. I have no clue but have faith in this crowd....Bill Gates...Pinnacle..TL, MLT, LC,MC, AS, GD,LM and OSM. Plus any old favourites I have forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Pinnacle now appear to be playing a very dangerous game of brinkmanship. They did initially carry all Saints supporters with them, I fear now that not only are they losing support but also credability. This has been going on too long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 We are to be Pinnacled for sure.....They will do it today...Sort it out TL and team.. The wages must be paid later today...no doubt Leon Crouch to the rescue again... We are almost there...COYRs. I have no clue but have faith in this crowd....Bill Gates...Pinnacle..TL, MLT, LC,MC, AS, GD,LM and OSM. Plus any old favourites I have forgotten. What are you basing this on OSM, knowledge or blind faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 I feel that we are reaching decision time..... Put up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Oh well, I was waiting for takeover day to hit my 1000 posts but I can't wait any longer. Block 5, you don't have to eat your scarf! The wait is all getting a bit bum jangly now and the silence is deafening. I still hold out some hope but it is diminishing by the hour. I still find it hard to believe that Pinnacles backers would be prepared to invest a large wad and then not complete the deal, that is my only hope of it still going through. Congratulations on the big 1000 mate. I hate to say I told you so...... but I told you so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The Echo are suggesting that Fry may sell another period of exclusivity to get the wages paid this month. It's like a bad joke. To be honest, enough's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Here come the Swiss! WATCH this space ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Trouble is with a new bid, can we afford to wait another 3 weeks while they have exclusivity, this will take us to the middle of July?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is this all being recorded as a reality TV show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is Fry gives the Swiss a period of exclusivity - then Pinnacle don't need to walk..they are out. A massive call for Fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What are you basing this on OSM, knowledge or blind faith? Bill Gates was a dream...I must confess..:^o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is Fry gives the Swiss a period of exclusivity - then Pinnacle don't need to walk..they are out. A massive call for Fry. That is presuming that they (the Swiss) can complete within 21 days. TBH I think they will come up against the same obstacles with the FL license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Bill Gates was a dream...I must confess..:^oLol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Is this all being recorded as a reality TV show Oh my god!This a real ?Thought it was a horrendous nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 The never ending nightmare.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) That is presuming that they (the Swiss) can complete within 21 days. TBH I think they will come up against the same obstacles with the FL license. Just because Pinnacle would not accept the FL constraints does not mean "others" will not It would however be a Very Poor deal for SFC We'd be in existance, but what a cost Edited 25 June, 2009 by SaintRichmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitmonSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Oh my god!This a real ?Thought it was a horrendous nightmare! Can you imagine actually waking up and finding Saints still in the Premiership? No, you're probably right, no one could sleep through two relegations. I'd have woken up screaming when Strachan left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. MLT has been quoted in the times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6572162.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dignified_blunderer Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 From the times today. Says MLT is still confident at least http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6572162.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 What time does The Farmer usually post his reassuring daily message? Really not interested if TL posts his usual message between 4 - 4.30pm, as every day goes by, the harder we are going to find playing this season in the old 3rd Division and getting out of it, thats assuming that we will be in it, what a sad state of affairs. Feel like crying.... and im a big fella.. this is what it coming too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. MLT has been quoted in the times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6572162.ece Those quotes are a few days old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. MLT has been quoted in the times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6572162.ece Just seems like a rehash of what he said the other day on Sky - nothing new at all. And this is what worries me....they still seem to be in exactly the same position they were in a few days ago. IMO if they've not announced this by the end of the day, then it's dead as far as I’m concerned. Fry should do the decent thing and give the Swiss exclusivity and get the wages paid. – and it doesn’t ‘’NEED’’ to take another 21 days either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dignified_blunderer Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Not sure if anyone has seen this yet. MLT has been quoted in the times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6572162.ece Beat me to it I went off to make coffee halfway through posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just because Pinnacle would not accept the FL constraints does not mean "others" will not It would however be a Vey Poor deal for SFC We'd be in existance, but what a cost If they did, then there is no way (if they are serious businessmen) pay anything like the amount Fry had agreed with the Pinnacle and Greene/Jackson groups and therefore, probably unacceptable to the creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Those quotes are a few days old. SO, why is a Newspaper of the Times calibre NOT up to speed with LATEST quotes ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 SO, why is a Newspaper of the Times calibre NOT up to speed with LATEST quotes ??? because they dont whore these forums like the daily echo do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disintegration87 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 everyday just seems like Groundhog Day now. Except without Billy Murray, the ground hog, or that funny looking woman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 If they did, then there is no way (if they are serious businessmen) pay anything like the amount Fry had agreed with the Pinnacle and Greene/Jackson groups and therefore, probably unacceptable to the creditors. SO, as a businessman, Fry must know that ............. so why is he actively talking to people who will NOT pay anything like what Pinnacle would ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) This really feels like the calm before the storm. We must hear something today as the wage issue is vital. If there are no assurances to pay, the players/staff will have no option to report concern to PFA. Edited 25 June, 2009 by thorpie the sinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Rather than Mr Fry's approach of let's challenge the FL auditor and the rules which will have the predictable outcome of FL wins, they always do; it may have been a wiser course to accept the rules and work towards gaining a CVA. The one advantage Southampton had over other teams in similar straits was that little was owed to HMRC who have been the main stumbling block to gaining a CVA. Some creditors are presumably saints fans and might well have voted for the CVA. Of course if you run up a legal bill for the administrators and put bidders in a similar position, there will be less money for creditors and less liklihood of gaining a CVA. Fighting talk from Mr Fry is all very well and gains applause but where does it leave you at the end of the day. A more pragmatic approach may have led you to completion by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Lets hope that the Swiss connection is as reliable as their clocks. I honestly feel that we are in the last death throws of Pinnacle. Where do we go from here, its pretty obvious that Pinnacle are no longer in the hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 SO, why is a Newspaper of the Times calibre NOT up to speed with LATEST quotes ??? I think you answered your own question! Rupert Murdoch is no friend of football & he also owns the Sun....next question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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