Running Man Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph So who do you think has been paying for all the rubber he's burnt over the last few weeks Morph? Has Leon been stitched up again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph Does that mean Matt is too???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph I am truly shocked by your choice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is : - the points position has to be sorted (or accepted) regardless of who buys us. - it would appear that time (driven primarily by wages day) is running out. - if Lynam doesn't deliver, then there are others who perhaps will. Fry's problem is the wages have to be paid asap to avoid his hand being forced and the asset value diminishing. How does he best achieve that - Pinnacle or A.N Other? I guess he has to back his horse soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph i have been saying that since the beginning of the week, even posting pictures to back it up. Talks a good game. Expect a PM from the farmer though explaining why we are wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 He has been mentioned numerous times for weeks. Years, to be completely accurate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 i have been saying that since the beginning of the week, even posting pictures to back it up. Talks a good game. Expect a PM from the farmer though explaining why we are wrong.... Tyre Kickers generally don't give large amounts of cash to the salesman upfront, or pay people to inspect the car and do a background check on its roadworthyness over a 6 week period, for cars they never expect to drive away in. Simples really. Tyre Kicker - A person who pretends to be interested in purchasing an article (especially a secondhand car), but has no intention of buying it. From the pointless act of kicking the tyres of a car as part of the inspection. This could apply to certain people mind, ones that have promised funds would be readily available, but never came back with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I am going to bed praying tonight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Tyre Kickers generally don't give large amounts of cash to the salesman upfront, or pay people to inspect the car and do a background check on its roadworthyness over a 6 week period, for cars they never expect to drive away in. Simples really. This could apply to certain people mind, ones that have promised funds would be readily available, but never came back with it. Maybe it isn't word for word, but at the moment it looks like a decent summary. Is it TL's money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I am going to bed praying tonight!! I will be on my knees too....but no praying involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I've got a nagging fear that this deal will have collapsed by the end of this week, if it hasn't already. No way did I believe at the start of the 3-week exclusivity that this would take so long, particularly when it was only over something as predictable as the FL playing hardball. Pinnacle have to deliver by Friday, or this is game over, but please prove me wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 (edited) Couple of things: 1) I bet it's not Jim Ratcliffe. 2) I reckon the "Dutch" connection might continue, in name at least. Edited 24 June, 2009 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 He has been mentioned numerous times for weeks. yes and you can check my post history to see when I started backing him. Just before I did that I announced that things would move with the takeover the 'next day' and they did - this was pinnacle entering exclusivity. I don't usually go for the ITK crap but the couple of links I've had have been coming up trumps this time and I think I've got it right. I will be feeling a little smug if my assumptions are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Soton Joe - all yours mate. not trying to score any points, just thought folk would like to know. you are the ITK king! thank you. I'll be gettinig that on the back of my replica shirt once all is announced. you can have 'queen' if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I seem to remember someone posting that he lived off the Avenue somewhere the company is lyndhurst based and he doesn't live off the avenue. not in southampton at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Lymington based, Crouch involved somewhere along the line then... All this Ratcliffe talk is giving me a terrible sense of de-ja-vu...again! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=329944#post329944 I seem to remember someone posting that he lived off the Avenue somewhere Are you sure you’re not getting muddled up with Pinnacle’s registered office being located just off the Avenue?! (By Cavendish Grove) My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph Morph, why do you think Tony Lynam is a tyre kicker?! Do you and Duncan all huddle together and chose a person to vindicate when you’re not kept in the picture. FWIW, I expected better from the pair of you. Time has dragged out but it’s pretty ignorant just to label someone a tyre kicker because things aren’t happening as fast as you both want. As Lynam said, the delay is for the best interests of the club and could be ensuring legalities are tied up so we don’t impose further deductions. I don't disbelieve him (FWIW). As for the professional comment...I assume you refer to your buddy Salz. An astute and respected businessman. However, he’s not really come up with much in the “saving our club” saga of recent. So, to call Lynam and Pinnacle tyre kickers when the people you purport to support haven’t really set the city alight smacks me with as mildly hypocritical. At least Pinnacle have put a great deal of time, money and effort in. Hardly the behaviour of tyre kickers with no commitment. Unless you know differently! People need to give Pinnacle more respect, dragged out or not. If this week passes and nothing happens, then by all means pontificate and criticise but, for now, everyone should keep the faith and be a bit more respectful. After all, this group have put a hell of a lot of energy into this attempted takeover. Maybe it will be worth it. I didn't see any other groups put half a million on the table before Pinnacle and I don't see anyone else doing so now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph Bizarre post. What is your evidence for Tony Lynham being a tyre kicker? Even if you don't believe his claim that his group has already spent over £1 million it can't be denied that it has made a substantial outlay. Why do that when you can kick tyres and walk away without handing over a penny? Salz has been talked about for so long but, as far as I can see, has not invested 1p. Should he come up with the money tomorrow to rescue the club, invest in the team and get our season underway then I will be delighted, as I would with almost anyone. But I haven't seen any evidence that this is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Bizarre post. What is your evidence for Tony Lynham being a tyre kicker? Even if you don't believe his claim that his group has already spent over £1 million it can't be denied that it has made a substantial outlay. Why do that when you can kick tyres and walk away without handing over a penny? Salz has been talked about for so long but, as far as I can see, has not invested 1p. Should he come up with the money tomorrow to rescue the club, invest in the team and get our season underway then I will be delighted, as I would with almost anyone. But I haven't seen any evidence that this is likely. as opposed to all the evidence Pinnacle will complete? Other than hear'say and a few posts to suggest its all gonna happen 'tomorrow' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 (edited) as opposed to all the evidence Pinnacle will complete? Other than hear'say and a few posts to suggest its all gonna happen 'tomorrow' The only evidence is that somebody paid the administrator a substantial sum (between £100,000 and over £500,000 depending on who you believe) for Pinnacle to have exclusivity for three weeks. I don't know if this means that Pinnacle will complete but it does seem to me to be an indication that they are serious about wanting to. There are much cheaper ways of getting yourself publicity without running the risk of making yourself a laughing stock all over this part of Hampshire. Edited 24 June, 2009 by itchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITKSaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 The only evidence is that somebody paid the administrator a substantial sum (between £100,000 and over £500,000 depending on who you believe) for Pinnacle to have exclusitivity for three weeks. The key word there for me is somebody. We really don't know who, or I don't anyway! The relationships between the parties making up the Pinnacle bid, or even who is making up the bid, aren't clear in any way are they? So, monies paid for exclusivity might put someone out of pocket but not necessarily the whole bid?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I believe Mr Radcliffe lives closer to Beaulieu than Lymington...plus Ineos are based in Lyndhurst. Also he has invested in the Parkhill Hotel in Lyndhurst... HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I believe Mr Radcliffe lives closer to Beaulieu than Lymington...plus Ineos are based in Lyndhurst. Also he has invested in the Parkhill Hotel in Lyndhurst... HTH Yep. If you follow the link in my post above, I've previously mentioned all this. It was part of my argument 4 people claiming cos his businesses had seen substantial value wiped out, it rendered Ratcliffe broke! Nope! Not quite. After all, you don't build 5 star hotels if money is tight. Esp. in the current climate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 My take on this is that Tony Lynam is just another tyre kicker as too is Jackson. Time to bring in the professionals. Fry will squeal because he knows how little Salz is prepared to pay. But enough is enough IMHO Regards Morph Morph, I've always been interested in what you say, but I've noticed a pretty firm trend setting in: you tend to be wrong far more often than you're right. Besides, Salz has an excellent financial pedigree of course - but isn't he a fairly precise definition of a tyre kicker? Someone who wanders round the SFC forecourt saying, in effect, 'I'm just looking - honest. But if you're desperate, I'll take this heap off your hands. Here's 50p.' As I'm sure any car salesman will tell you, anyone who, like Lynam, strolls up and splashes out bundles of cash with no guarantee of an end sale is about as far removed from a tyrekicker as it's possible to imagine. And it's not exactly cricket to compare Lynam with the incomparable MJ, is it? I'm not getting at you (actually I blame trousers) - but shouldn't you try a bit harder to come off a bit less than an unquestioning cheerleader? Salz must have a pretty badly bruised toe after all this time - IF what you say is true for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 People need to give Pinnacle more respect, dragged out or not. If this week passes and nothing happens, then by all means pontificate and criticise but, for now, everyone should keep the faith and be a bit more respectful. After all, this group have put a hell of a lot of energy into this attempted takeover. Maybe it will be worth it. I didn't see any other groups put half a million on the table before Pinnacle and I don't see anyone else doing so now! Respect is earned. Pinnacle have done nothing to earn my respect. The facts are their consortium has fallen apart once, one guy with money seems to have been sweet talked (by Lynam) into staying in and putting some cash up for exclusivity 4 weeks ago (although even that has been called into question). Throughout that time, we have had no communication of any value, no information on where the club is headed, who will be involved or even who is buying the club. We have been kept in the dark, like mushrooms. All that would be acceptable had Pinnacle actually done a decent job. Clearly they failed to engage with the League in good time and were surprised at the terms they discovered at the end. I suspect Lynam has never brought a football club before and simply didn't know what he was doing. Let's call a spade a spade here. Now we're well past the stage when this needed to be tied up by, and players and coach are in pre-season. Will any of them be there next week? Or the week after? The football team needs to be in place now, not in two weeks. The new manager (is there is one?) needs to have time to work with the squad, identify players to let go and bring in etc etc. Nothing about Pinnacle seems remotely professional to me - Lynam might be a good guy with the best interests of the club at heart - I would be very surprised if that was not true - however don't let anyone delude themselves that being a nice guy that loves Saints is automatically going to be good for our once great club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) Can I just point out to Gordon Mockles I do not think Tony Lynham to be a tyre kicker. As things stand I still hope and want Pinnacle to suceed. I am however a little confused as to the exact nature of the hold up. I have now been very reliably informed it isn't related to the 10 points which is also confusing as Lynham originally said it was. After falling hook line and sinker for Wilde's bulls*it I have become a little more cautious as to how quickly I tie my ribbon to a wagon but at the same time I do accept beggars can't be choosers and if Pinnacle pull it off (which surely they must do within 48 hours) I will be very grateful. Hope that clears up my stance Gordon - I have had no current contact with Anthony Salz or Leon Crouch - I have spoken to neither man for nearly 6 months. My views and posts are my own despite what Dubai Phil says. Frustrated Fingers remaining tightly crossed. Cheers! Edited 25 June, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 text from Tony read out this morning, which they just had in - says pay is not FL's problem. Didn't really undersatnd what he was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 text from Tony read out this morning, which they just had in - says pay is not FL's problem. Didn't really undersatnd what he was saying If we are that stage, obviously we are no nearer any compromise! First time in a while, starting to get worried! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 If this is not a done deal by the end off tomorrow, then frankly, I really have genuinely had enough. just fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Throughout all this time, one basic thought keeps coming back at me..... IF Pinnacle ARE so professional, and IF they are so serious in taking us over .... IMHO, they would NOT want a "mouthpiece", ie Tony Lynam, coming on here to give us "day by day" summaries ..... no matter what Business is business, and until it is concluded, Pinnacle, IF serious, would want EVERYTHING kept firmly to their chest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 All this Ratcliffe talk is giving me a terrible sense of de-ja-vu...again! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=329944#post329944 Are you sure you’re not getting muddled up with Pinnacle’s registered office being located just off the Avenue?! (By Cavendish Grove) Morph, why do you think Tony Lynam is a tyre kicker?! Do you and Duncan all huddle together and chose a person to vindicate when you’re not kept in the picture. FWIW, I expected better from the pair of you. Time has dragged out but it’s pretty ignorant just to label someone a tyre kicker because things aren’t happening as fast as you both want. As Lynam said, the delay is for the best interests of the club and could be ensuring legalities are tied up so we don’t impose further deductions. I don't disbelieve him (FWIW). As for the professional comment...I assume you refer to your buddy Salz. An astute and respected businessman. However, he’s not really come up with much in the “saving our club” saga of recent. So, to call Lynam and Pinnacle tyre kickers when the people you purport to support haven’t really set the city alight smacks me with as mildly hypocritical. At least Pinnacle have put a great deal of time, money and effort in. Hardly the behaviour of tyre kickers with no commitment. Unless you know differently! People need to give Pinnacle more respect, dragged out or not. If this week passes and nothing happens, then by all means pontificate and criticise but, for now, everyone should keep the faith and be a bit more respectful. After all, this group have put a hell of a lot of energy into this attempted takeover. Maybe it will be worth it. I didn't see any other groups put half a million on the table before Pinnacle and I don't see anyone else doing so now! Post of the year..........Bl**dy well said. I've been saying the same, but you have summed it up in a far better way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Throughout all this time, one basic thought keeps coming back at me..... IF Pinnacle ARE so professional, and IF they are so serious in taking us over .... IMHO, they would NOT want a "mouthpiece", ie Tony Lynam, coming on here to give us "day by day" summaries ..... no matter what Business is business, and until it is concluded, Pinnacle, IF serious, would want EVERYTHING kept firmly to their chest But he has never actually told us anything. Keeping fans from bombarding the FL is at least one of the benefits he gets from posting on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 But he has never actually told us anything. Keeping fans from bombarding the FL is at least one of the benefits he gets from posting on here. Nothing of real substance I agree ... jusr the bare bones, but I still think that "running from the room" every now and then, to try and allay our "fears", is NOT a professional Company's way of going through what is a very long and complicated procedure for a Company to aquire ownership Maybe nice to hear, but from a Professional point of view just doesn'r sit right IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just a thought - if the wages are not paid today which now seems likely, surely the the football club will be forced into administration. Therefore if Pinnnacle agree to then subsequently pay the wages, there will have been no real change in the position of the creditors. Under those circumstances, what is stopping us getting a CVA agreed for the football club & negating the issue about further points penalties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just a thought - if the wages are not paid today which now seems likely, surely the the football club will be forced into administration. Therefore if Pinnnacle agree to then subsequently pay the wages, there will have been no real change in the position of the creditors. Under those circumstances, what is stopping us getting a CVA agreed for the football club & negating the issue about further points penalties? As has been suggested on here already, and IMHO, it has a bit of mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 TL/Pinnacle are the middlemen - i.e. they have no clout as such. The backer has (his/her/their) own lawyers working with Fry and the legal eagles are not happy with the wording of the contract in terms of the right to appeal and its associated ramifications regarding the on-going health of SFC. This does not mean Pinnacle et al are concerned with the -10 points, just the future knock-on effects. Hence TL's comment about 'kicking lawyers' rather than tyres. Providing clarification and assurance can be found from the FL then the deal can go ahead. Simple. The big question now is whether a compromise can be found and the paperwork signed up prior to the wages needing to be paid this week (I suspect today is not critical). Because TL has already spoken with club staff about this, makes me suspect that they knew in advance that a delay would be likely, which in turn leads me to suspect that resolution is very near indeed and that the staff have been asked to be patient while the last details are sorted. However, if the deal is not concluded this week I think we will start to see a quick unravelling of the whole process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 text from Tony read out this morning, which they just had in - says pay is not FL's problem. Didn't really undersatnd what he was saying I'm glad that you said that. I thought that it was just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Throughout all this time, one basic thought keeps coming back at me..... IF Pinnacle ARE so professional, and IF they are so serious in taking us over .... IMHO, they would NOT want a "mouthpiece", ie Tony Lynam, coming on here to give us "day by day" summaries ..... no matter what Business is business, and until it is concluded, Pinnacle, IF serious, would want EVERYTHING kept firmly to their chest Sorry to bring this up again, but surely he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. People on here would squinney like hell if we were kept in the dark, whilst others label them "unprofessional" if they try to keep fans in the loop. Priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Well I really hope that Pinnacle can pull this off today because I'm beginning to loose faith the longer it goes on. What they propose is all good, but I'm still very concerned about it all due to the time it's taking. Regards and Good Morning Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Radio solent said that they spoke to TL this morning, the league are meeting to discuss the issues and will conclude this morning. TL also said that they had a contingency plan should nothing get sorted today. (think this was referring to wages etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 TL/Pinnacle are the middlemen - i.e. they have no clout as such. The backer has (his/her/their) own lawyers working with Fry and the legal eagles are not happy with the wording of the contract in terms of the right to appeal and its associated ramifications regarding the on-going health of SFC. This does not mean Pinnacle et al are concerned with the -10 points, just the future knock-on effects. Hence TL's comment about 'kicking lawyers' rather than tyres. Providing clarification and assurance can be found from the FL then the deal can go ahead. Simple. The big question now is whether a compromise can be found and the paperwork signed up prior to the wages needing to be paid this week (I suspect today is not critical). Because TL has already spoken with club staff about this, makes me suspect that they knew in advance that a delay would be likely, which in turn leads me to suspect that resolution is very near indeed and that the staff have been asked to be patient while the last details are sorted. However, if the deal is not concluded this week I think we will start to see a quick unravelling of the whole process. This makes a lot of sense to me, but I am starting to worry now that the FL will NOT give any assurances because they fully intend to deduct additional points when we fail (for good reason) to produce a CVA. Without this assurance Pinnacle won't sign. Perhaps I am being over pessimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 text from Tony read out this morning, which they just had in - says pay is not FL's problem. Didn't really undersatnd what he was saying IMO if I understand this right, shows the speed that the FL are working at here. I would bet Pinnacle have pushed to get this resolved quickly so they could complete and pay the wages today, and the response was... pay is not FL's problem. Thats the FL caring for it's members!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Sorry to bring this up again, but surely he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. People on here would squinney like hell if we were kept in the dark, whilst others label them "unprofessional" if they try to keep fans in the loop. Priceless! Absolutely, some on here would be moaning if TL/Pinnacle kept us in the dark, they can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 god i hope this goes through today !!!! anyways, i'm going to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 the way i see it the deal will go through it`s just a matter of when! i know it`s painful waiting but lets all be patient and i`m sure we will be rewarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Ive been away on vacation for 4 days so Ive missed alot of whats happened here during this week - anyway - why is everyone thinking that the deal will be made today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running Man Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Well I really hope that Pinnacle can pull this off today because I'm beginning to loose faith the longer it goes on. What they propose is all good, but I'm still very concerned about it all due to the time it's taking. Regards and Good Morning Morph Morning Morph - as I asked yesterday, do you accept that Pinnacle have inveted a lot even to get this far ie at least £500K in club wages etc, or do you believe that Crouch has paid all the bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Sorry to bring this up again, but surely he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. People on here would squinney like hell if we were kept in the dark, whilst others label them "unprofessional" if they try to keep fans in the loop. Priceless! Yes, I agree, there would be some (including myself) who would be clamouring for info However, if there is no REAL info to give .... why bother to just say "we are still talking etc " ...... You do not get a verdict in a Trial, until the Jury has come to a verdict ...... ONLY THEN does it get uttered to the rest of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Just a thought - if the wages are not paid today which now seems likely, surely the the football club will be forced into administration. Therefore if Pinnnacle agree to then subsequently pay the wages, there will have been no real change in the position of the creditors. Under those circumstances, what is stopping us getting a CVA agreed for the football club & negating the issue about further points penalties? Then the FL says "shows us two CVA's" one for SFC, one for SLH. "Oh you dont have two, heres -15 points then"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 (edited) Radio solent said that they spoke to TL this morning, the league are meeting to discuss the issues and will conclude this morning. TL also said that they had a contingency plan should nothing get sorted today. (think this was referring to wages etc) Don't know when you heard that. What I heard at 7.50ish was that Pinnacle expected to hear back from the FL this morning (nothing about a meeting or a conclusion), after they've had their lawyers look at what Pinnacle sent them yesterday, and yes that Pinnacle had a contingency plan. What will have happened IMO is that Pinnacle's lawyers are telling them that they could win an argument in court . Pinnacle have thus sent the FL a modified contract with their lawyers 'threats' of court action if it's not accepted. During yesterday the FL's lawyers will have been looking at the detail of that modification so that the FL can reply today. Again, solely IMO, they will say 'sod off'. The league's lawyers will tell them, 'no we think we would win in court'. That's what lawyers do. That's how they earn their money. If you didn't get opposite opinions from 2 sets of lawyers there'd be hardly any court cases and they'd all be out of work. I can't imagine what Lynam's contingency plan can be apart from to cave in. We have no time to play hardball with the league. They hold all the aces in this game. Surely he doesn't expect to do some fresh holding deal with Fry in return for paying the wages? This can't go on much longer. K. Edited 25 June, 2009 by Ken Tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 25 June, 2009 Share Posted 25 June, 2009 Morning Morph - as I asked yesterday, do you accept that Pinnacle have inveted a lot even to get this far ie at least £500K in club wages etc, or do you believe that Crouch has paid all the bills? I don't quite understand why some people (not you) seem to think that if Crouch paid for Pinnacle's exclusivity this somehow shows that Pinnacle are not serious. I have no idea who paid but whoever it was clearly believed that Pinnacle was a credible bidder. No other group has paid any money to the benefit of the club although I accept that anybody who has done more than just ask for the brochure has incurred some expenditure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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