thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I wonder what the atmosphere will be like if the next thing we hear is Matt on SSN saying the deal has been completed and he is the new chairman!!! Personally, I think it will be 8 minutes before we get the first MLT out post!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we start a sweepstake on who will make that post?? LOL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Mlt out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Mlt out that doesn't count, he's not in yet!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 What a beautifully phrased and delicately put sentiment ...lol Agreed. You know the way a psychologist would tell you that first the brain has to construct the image before it can consciously deal with it? As in if I were to say "Don't think of a Pink Elephant" you would momentarily and unconsciously visualise a pink elephant. Well I've got this image of Alpine (or at least the mask image avatar he uses) on a toilet (my toilet in fact) sunk up to his nuts into Mrs Alpine. For the avoidance of doubt I should point out that I do not know what Mrs Alpine looks like except that she is wearing the same avatar mask with long hair. Thanks Alpine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 when are we going to ****ing hear something!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 430 apparently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 As somebody posted yesterday maybe tomorrow is the crucial day............ Pay day but no wages paid because the club is skint.......... Club automatically goes into Administration and for a short while SLH & SFC are both in Administration............ Pinnacle pay up and immediately take SFC out of Administration.......... FL give SFC a CVA as they have come out of Administration thereby avoiding the extra -15points ....... Pinnacle go with the -10, Everybody happy .................. Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 As somebody posted yesterday maybe tomorrow is the crucial day............ Pay day but no wages paid because the club is skint.......... Club automatically goes into Administration and for a short while SLH & SFC are both in Administration............ Pinnacle pay up and immediately take SFC out of Administration.......... FL give SFC a CVA as they have come out of Administration thereby avoiding the extra -15points ....... Pinnacle go with the -10, Everybody happy .................. Simples That looks good but surely it will finally happen on a Friday...It has to be a Friday after all this time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysstuff Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 430 apparently! Ah but which day?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 430 apparently! A guess or you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 430 apparently! Said who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Just got in from a job and waiting for update from Tony. First thing this morning he gave me a little bit of background with regards the new set up and then said today would be a very important day. With many of the plans already in motion I took it that this was the cue for the completion by tomorrow, but I'm still waiting to hear an official release. Not knocking you personally Farmer, but ..... My interpretation.. What I've heard him say in person in the media, plus the report on solent this morning, imply to me that yes it is a VERY important day, not because he will sign today, but because he this morning sent his side's modifed version of the contract back to the FL for them to consider, I suspect along with his lawyers views/threats that we should not be forced into signing the no appeal clause. Assuming he is not a two-faced liar, he seems genuinely to believe that this will make the FL change their mind. They won't. The FL will look at it. Their lawyers will say: No, we're right. It's our club. We can make whatever rules we like ..cf Leeds. Eventually, either late today or some time tomorrow, the FL will say: No Tony, we won't accept your modifications So what then? Meanwhile Fry is obliged to take other offers very seriously, and if anyone is prepared to match Pinnacle's bid, and pay this month's wages in return for exclusivity, Pinnacle will be history. The best we fans can hope for is that the FL is prepared to find some face-saving, but largely empty, form of words to enable Lynam to sign very soon without looking a complete idiot. Mawhinney is not known for such a cooperative approach! K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 430 apparently! According to who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 FL don't give the club a CVA as this is a formal insolvency procedure under the Insolvency Act 1986. I think Fry will do the deal tomorrow as staff must be anxious and may leave. Also out of contract players will drift away next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 someone on the Pinnacle Pinnacle Pinnacle thread, but he said he wasn't in the know! I chose not to believe him lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun of spain Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I wonder what the atmosphere will be like if the next thing we hear is Matt on SSN saying the deal has been completed and he is the new chairman!!! Personally, I think it will be 8 minutes before we get the first MLT out post!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall we start a sweepstake on who will make that post?? LOL!!!! A post dated " MLT OUT",for when (or if ) he becomes Chairman. There I'm the first,so there :smt118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evo Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 someone on the Pinnacle Pinnacle Pinnacle thread, but he said he wasn't in the know! I chose not to believe him lol Tut tut, THORPIE OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 FL don't give the club a CVA as this is a formal insolvency procedure under the Insolvency Act 1986. I think Fry will do the deal tomorrow as staff must be anxious and may leave. Also out of contract players will drift away next week! Agree but SFC has never been in Administration officialy only SLH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Tut tut, THORPIE OUT! I tell you one thing, I will never come out on this site lol!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lynam Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Guys By request, a quick time out to let you know where we are at. Before I start, can I please ask in the nicest possible way that people stop bombarding us with e-mails and text messages for now....... as anyone who has previously taken the time to write to us will testify to, I have personally taken the trouble to reply to each and every one of your messages, e-mails and letters. I will be happy to continue to do so within reason after the takeover is complete in the interests of showing you guys that we are totally transparent and approachable, but for now, it would be helpful if you could press "pause". On to the important business. I understand from Spencer and others that there is an understandable sense of nervousness amongst some fans. That is quite reasonable to expect under the circumstances, and we are doing everything we can to ensure that those nerves turn into celebration. What I am going to say is not new, more reiterating what has already been said. We need a football license for the Club to play football, in the same way as a pub needs a liquor license to serve alcohol. The terms which were put to us (and not those originally proposed or agreed) were in their first draft form unacceptable. It became a necessity to discuss this with the Football League, and we continue to discuss some of the points. Such discussions are two way, professionally, frank, open and friendly. In my view, we are both working towards the same goal, ensuring that the right decision is arrived at concerning the contractual terms contained within the agreement. Further contact has been made with the League in the last half hour, and I anticipate more to follow during the remainder of the day. In the meantime, on a personal note, I am mindful that tomorrow is looming. For this reason, I took an hour out yesterday to meet with all the staff and players at Staplewood, and as many as were at the offices in St Marys so I could explain first hand exactly what was going on, exactly the nature of what needs to happen, and confirmation that we remained totally committed to completing the takeover as originally planned. Moreover, nothing that has happened since these new conditions were placed upon has in any way put us off, if anything it has strengthened our resolve to do the best for the Club. If any other Group(s)/Individuals claim not to be interested in the clauses contained within our contract, this would to my mind raise questions as to why they would not be prepared to stand up for what is best for the Club. Knowing what we know, factually and legally, certain aspects of the agreement need alteration, without which it is our firm belief that you would be exposing the Club to risk. And with this in mind, we are working closely with the League and we will resolve the issues as quickly as possible, thus resulting in the best position for the Club. On a brighter note, and to get away from the legals for a moment to try and lighten the mood, I was most amused to be e-mailed a picture of a characature chap kicking a tyre this afternoon by a friend on here. Could I politely ask you to perhaps replace the tyre with a lawyer and a rule book please! Whether the picture was supposed to be a joke or an insult, it did make me laugh, and that’s welcome at the minute to keep spirits high. I know its extremely frustrating guys, but far too much time, effort and money has been spent on this – we’ve now run costs into 7 figures, and that is not done for the fun of it. We will stop at nothing to ensure every measure is taken to ensure the best interests of the Club is served. Your continued support and unity is appreciated and we hope to resolve everything very shortly. Regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Guys By request, a quick time out to let you know where we are at. Before I start, can I please ask in the nicest possible way that people stop bombarding us with e-mails and text messages for now....... as anyone who has previously taken the time to write to us will testify to, I have personally taken the trouble to reply to each and every one of your messages, e-mails and letters. I will be happy to continue to do so within reason after the takeover is complete in the interests of showing you guys that we are totally transparent and approachable, but for now, it would be helpful if you could press "pause". On to the important business. I understand from Spencer and others that there is an understandable sense of nervousness amongst some fans. That is quite reasonable to expect under the circumstances, and we are doing everything we can to ensure that those nerves turn into celebration. What I am going to say is not new, more reiterating what has already been said. We need a football license for the Club to play football, in the same way as a pub needs a liquor license to serve alcohol. The terms which were put to us (and not those originally proposed or agreed) were in their first draft form unacceptable. It became a necessity to discuss this with the Football League, and we continue to discuss some of the points. Such discussions are two way, professionally, frank, open and friendly. In my view, we are both working towards the same goal, ensuring that the right decision is arrived at concerning the contractual terms contained within the agreement. Further contact has been made with the League in the last half hour, and I anticipate more to follow during the remainder of the day. In the meantime, on a personal note, I am mindful that tomorrow is looming. For this reason, I took an hour out yesterday to meet with all the staff and players at Staplewood, and as many as were at the offices in St Marys so I could explain first hand exactly what was going on, exactly the nature of what needs to happen, and confirmation that we remained totally committed to completing the takeover as originally planned. Moreover, nothing that has happened since these new conditions were placed upon has in any way put us off, if anything it has strengthened our resolve to do the best for the Club. If any other Group(s)/Individuals claim not to be interested in the clauses contained within our contract, this would to my mind raise questions as to why they would not be prepared to stand up for what is best for the Club. Knowing what we know, factually and legally, certain aspects of the agreement need alteration, without which it is our firm belief that you would be exposing the Club to risk. And with this in mind, we are working closely with the League and we will resolve the issues as quickly as possible, thus resulting in the best position for the Club. On a brighter note, and to get away from the legals for a moment to try and lighten the mood, I was most amused to be e-mailed a picture of a characature chap kicking a tyre this afternoon by a friend on here. Could I politely ask you to perhaps replace the tyre with a lawyer and a rule book please! Whether the picture was supposed to be a joke or an insult, it did make me laugh, and that’s welcome at the minute to keep spirits high. I know its extremely frustrating guys, but far too much time, effort and money has been spent on this – we’ve now run costs into 7 figures, and that is not done for the fun of it. We will stop at nothing to ensure every measure is taken to ensure the best interests of the Club is served. Your continued support and unity is appreciated and we hope to resolve everything very shortly. Regards Tony thanks Tony but what is taking so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 you write a good letter Tony I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 So we're still waiting and it will still "happen shortly"? Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Cheers Tony x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 As I said, all positive!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 God bless you Tony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 So in a nutshell we are almost there bar the shouting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damers Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Thanks Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Tony , very much appreciate the update but surely even you must be beginning to have doubts ,Apart from everything else are you not leaving the door wide open for somebody else to walk straight in. Is it not time Pen was put to paper and then fight out any minor difficulties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pope Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Thankyou good sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Who's Spencer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Thanks for the update although it seems nothing has changed in the last 48 hours, i hope you are not using Paris Smith as your lawers as they certainly know how to charge without gettin g results in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Frank in sum muvvers do ave em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 You gotta love this guy haven't you. He certainly knows how to treat people. If any other Group(s)/Individuals claim not to be interested in the clauses contained within our contract, this would to my mind raise questions as to why they would not be prepared to stand up for what is best for the Club. Is this a dig at Marc Jackson? Knowing what we know, factually and legally, certain aspects of the agreement need alteration, without which it is our firm belief that you would be exposing the Club to risk. And with this in mind, we are working closely with the League and we will resolve the issues as quickly as possible, thus resulting in the best position for the Club. Is this a reference to the possibility of further sanction if the CVA is not produced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Who's Spencer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Who's Spencer? The Farmer I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 On a brighter note, and to get away from the legals for a moment to try and lighten the mood, I was most amused to be e-mailed a picture of a characature chap kicking a tyre this afternoon by a friend on here. Could I politely ask you to perhaps replace the tyre with a lawyer and a rule book please! Whether the picture was supposed to be a joke or an insult, it did make me laugh, and that’s welcome at the minute to keep spirits high. Regards Tony Good to see he has a sense of humour, he'll need it looking at this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitmonSaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 A board that are "transparent and approachable"! After our experience, that may take some getting used to! Hehe. Thanks for the update Tony, always appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 So it's about the possibility of extra points deductions then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 thankyou tony fingers crossed for some news come close of play today or tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 24 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Thanks for the update, would love to know what is taking so long though & i suspect hypo may be spot on why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I remain impressed by this mans commitment to keeping us informed. Regretably though there is nothing really that new being stated. Clearly there will be no great announcement today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 So it's about the possibility of extra points deductions then. I agree. "certain aspects of the agreement need alteration, without which it is our firm belief that you would be exposing the Club to risk" I think this is the most telling part of TL's statement. It's been my concern all along that the real sticking point is the possibility of further points deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Further contact has been made with the League in the last half hour, and I anticipate more to follow during the remainder of the day. How many V signs can they send to us a day? Cue the laughing Policeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Don't get me wrong, I really Like Tony and co and appreicate everything. But I am so ****ing boreddddddd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Don't get me wrong, I really Like Tony and co and appreicate everything. But I am so ****ing boreddddddd bloody ditto...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 "Further contact has been made with the League in the last half hour" Sorry, but that sounds too 'casual' for my liking. As per my questions earlier about how much 'time-of-day' the Football League are giving to this, I rather suspect Pinnacle have not been in a locked room all day with the Football League, much like the RMT and London Underground would be in an 11th hour dispute situation, rather they are having to 'pester' the Football League to divert some of their time scheduled on other matters to deal with the Saints issue(s). All supposition on my part but that's the impression I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Columb Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I get the impression that Pinnacle rush to the Football league headquarters hand in a document to a lady at the front desk, who then looks at her computer and says " Computer says No" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 I get the impression that Pinnacle rush to the Football league headquarters hand in a document to a lady at the front desk, who then looks at her computer and says " Computer says No"Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 June, 2009 Share Posted 24 June, 2009 Can't take alot more of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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