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[Wade Garrett]

I was Saints lawyer I wouldn't make any money by dragging everything out over every single sentence, but that doesn't make me wrong.

 

We won't get the 10 points recinded and if we ever do "appeal" to the FL, the Court of Arbitration for Sport, the high court, Watchdog, the European Union, Norwich Union, the Pope or Lynne Foulds Wood we will never, ever, win.

 

All of you can come and poo on my head if I'm wrong.

 

I'd rather take your word for it than give you a Bournville Bowler.

[Xchurch_Saint]

Thats the best post of the day for me! Savour that mate- they're not young for long..sob

[Xchurch_Saint]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

I meant this post of course!

[Saint Charlie]

Haha that is brilliant!

[FarehamRed]

For goodness' sake, have some patients people! It's not just about the 10 points, it's about the extra 15 points we could be deducted for not having a CVA.

 

I trust MLT and Pinnacle, and if things take a few days longer than we'd all like, then so be it!

[aberdare]

I never knew we had such a bunch of lilly-livered surrender monkeys as fans! By the letter of the law we have been cheated, and are being asked to give up our right to appeal be an organisation not fit for purpose. An organsiation behaving in the best traditions of a south american banana republic, changing the rules to suit them. The more Pinnacle push the League and their old school tie brigade the better i like them.

 

I can see and sympathise with the emotion but still struggle with the factual grasp on reality.

If SLH was nuked could SFC have paid the wages last month or this: A. No

If SLH are nuked would SFC have a ground: A. No

Did SFC, who were not in administration, appeal within 7 days of the league decision A. No

Do the League rules permit appeals? A. Yes

Do the league rules have terms? A. Yes they must be lodged within 7 days.

 

Ergo:

If SLH was nuked could SFC play this season - A. No

The semantics are fine and dandy, but who is kidding who?

 

I think a lot of effort is being wasted on causes which are simply not ultimately winnable especially in a members club.

 

In the meantime pay day approaches again.

 

It is hard not perhaps to ponder that the funding available from the Pinnacle backer, however wealthy he or she may be, perhaps is only at a level which means promotion year one is a pre requisite as there is no offer of sustaining L1 football, and the club will struggle to survive in L1 longer term.

 

That would in fact fit with a non football fan act of generosity.

 

I wonder if any of the Pinnacle Group can confirm that promotion in the first year while excellent for the the club is not actually a necessity, and that the plan is indeed a long term strategy which would not be impacted by a second year in the long grass?

[offix]

no they should not!

They are showing some balls and trying to get the best possible deal for SFC.

 

Why oh why are some people so obsessed with Pinnacle just rolling over and doing exactly what the FL say.

 

I would rather go down fighting than roll over and be the sort of club that says "thank you sir and by the way please feel free to whack me again whenever you feel like it"

 

Finally someone who I agree with.

100% right!

[Crispypie]

II think we should also keep in mind that this is not about a couple of hundred pounds! If i was asked to spend several million on behalf of a third party i would want to make sure the deal is watertight before signing!!

[aberdare]

Finally someone who I agree with.

100% right!

 

Ok, so SFC fight the battle, lose (90+% odds to everyone outside of SO postcodes) and as a consequence are expelled from the League or deducted another 15 points and then have to rebuild from L2 (perhaps at best?)

 

Worth it? 100% right to fight as you suggest?

 

Interesting theory, but again emotions perhaps running away with things?

[Mole]

I never knew we had such a bunch of lilly-livered surrender monkeys as fans! By the letter of the law we have been cheated, and are being asked to give up our right to appeal be an organisation not fit for purpose. An organsiation behaving in the best traditions of a south american banana republic, changing the rules to suit them. The more Pinnacle push the League and their old school tie brigade the better i like them.

 

Well said.

[Tac-tics]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

This is my favourite post, ever!

[hypochondriac]

Problem is time is not on our side! We need to get this sorted next week at the latest

[chrisobee]

Ok, so SFC fight the battle, lose (90+% odds to everyone outside of SO postcodes) and as a consequence are expelled from the League or deducted another 15 points and then have to rebuild from L2 (perhaps at best?)

 

Worth it? 100% right to fight as you suggest?

 

Interesting theory, but again emotions perhaps running away with things?

 

Many things may happen between now and the start of the season but being expelled from the League or being forced into League 2 is not one of them. Too much scare mongering on here, Pinnacle are quite within their rights to clarify any issue they please and no matter how people regard the FL at the end of the day they have an obligation too and will no doubt fulfill this. The people I feel most sorry for are GP's who must have waiting rooms full of nervous wrecks !!

[chrisobee]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

More likely explains why his middle names are Le and Tissier

[NickG]

Problem is time is not on our side! We need to get this sorted next week at the latest

 

why what's going to happen then?

[chrisobee]

P.S- You owe me £57 for a new keyboard on my laptop, the F5 is totally worn out

 

Think it might be your own fault for not simply using the refresh tab in your browser !

[offix]

Ok, so SFC fight the battle, lose (90+% odds to everyone outside of SO postcodes) and as a consequence are expelled from the League or deducted another 15 points and then have to rebuild from L2 (perhaps at best?)

 

Worth it? 100% right to fight as you suggest?

 

Interesting theory, but again emotions perhaps running away with things?

 

Your argument doesn't hold water. They are proposing to spend many millions. They have already spent 500K. if they can't get the terms they need to make this giant investment worth it, than they will not, and should not, go ahead. Their money, their right to try and get terms that are acceptable to them. If they don't succeed, you'll get the whole cycle over again with the real tire-kicker (Jackson). That situation is guaranteed to result in folding the club!.

[Muvvers]

Sussex Saint that tale had my eyes watering! Oh and on the other issue - as i've stated before i met Tony Lynam in my local last Wednesday ( might see him tomorrow too) he and his consortium will buy our beloved Saints, that I am certain of...all I say is be patient...TL and co know the score regarding the 10 points - they are not jeopardising the takeover by wanting the right to appeal...be brave and hang in there everyone!

[Eyes k8]

Ours will be completed by July 11th according to Arabian business. Everything sorted but huge amount of paperwork for processing. The good doctor to speak to Pompey supporters at the Union Jack Club in london that night. Two weeks-Can you beat that?

[CLOTH EARS]

For goodness' sake, have some patients people! It's not just about the 10 points, it's about the extra 15 points we could be deducted for not having a CVA.

 

I trust MLT and Pinnacle, and if things take a few days longer than we'd all like, then so be it!

 

That is it mate. As you have said its not about appealing against the 10 points deduction, its about the right of appeal against the potential further 15 point deduction. IF we waive away our right of appeal then the FL decide to deduct us another 15 points we will be effectively relegated to League 2!!!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

Not sappy at all, and a moment that you and young Matthew will remember forever. I treasure moments such as that.

[amigo1]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

 

ive had almost the same conversation with my son "Danny"

[stanthemanfairoak]

ive had almost the same conversation with my son "Danny"

and my son terry:D

[thorpie the sinner]

Nothing like shedding a tear before work!!! My 5 year old son said, sorry Dad, its Man U for me!!! where do you go from there?

 

Obviously he is grounded for a year....

[Joey-deacons-left-nut]

Does't quite work out as well when your son is called adolf....

[alpine_saint]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

Why is it sappy ?

 

My missus is expecting in February, and I have found myself thinking of Matthew for a name too.

[thorpie the sinner]

Why is it sappy ?

 

My missus is expecting in February, and I have found myself thinking of Matthew for a name too.

 

Thought you might be going for a traditional Austrian name Alps like Hans!!

[saintjay77]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

cracking post!

 

My kids got me a giant fathers day card and wrote lots of little messages in it. 1 in particular brought a smile to my face as it showed that they actually thought about what they were writing.

 

This bit was from my 6 year old written as it is on the card

 

owen

the saints

go marching

in owen

the saints

choose you

to play

you will

be great

 

nuff said lol

[saintjay77]

Why is it sappy ?

 

My missus is expecting in February, and I have found myself thinking of Matthew for a name too.

 

wheres stanley? when he has kids will he name them Sol? David? Linvoy?

 

[CB Fry]

I never knew we had such a bunch of lilly-livered surrender monkeys as fans! By the letter of the law we have been cheated, and are being asked to give up our right to appeal be an organisation not fit for purpose. An organsiation behaving in the best traditions of a south american banana republic, changing the rules to suit them. The more Pinnacle push the League and their old school tie brigade the better i like them.

 

 

Says who?

 

As several dull people have said to me in recent days - are you a qualified lawyer with access to the full details of the blah blah etc etc etc

[saintjay77]

Says who?

 

As several dull people have said to me in recent days - are you a qualified lawyer with access to the full details of the blah blah etc etc etc

 

its a private members club and to gain entry they can set any rules they wish.

 

but compare it to anything else in the real world like say to keep a job and you would have a case for constructive dismissal.

 

so while legally we dont really have a leg to stand on people cant be blamed for feeling like we are getting stuffed both legally and morally

[Sevvy]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

This brought a tear to my eyes

[Draino76]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

Nice one. I named my 5 yr old after James Beattie. Don't think I'll ever get that pleasure.

[cortee]

Well said.

 

I agree, pinnicle are pushing back rather than just being pushed around. All they want is their right to appeal. They don't actually have to appeal. They are certainly getting th FL out of their comfort zone.

[derry]

its a private members club and to gain entry they can set any rules they wish.

 

but compare it to anything else in the real world like say to keep a job and you would have a case for constructive dismissal.

 

so while legally we dont really have a leg to stand on people cant be blamed for feeling like we are getting stuffed both legally and morally

 

It's been put to the test twice and the football authorities lost both times. George Eastham proved the maximum wage illegal, Bosman proved the transfer system illegal.

 

Sooner or later somebody is going to take the league on in the high court regarding their use of their rules.

[saintdaz]

news just on radio solent. tony lynam texted in to say that the pinnacle group had been working late into the night to put proposals to the football league today which they say are confident of an amicable outcome. he said there well aware wages need to be paid tomorrow and are confident that the issues can be sorted out today

[cortee]

Well said.

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originally posted by docker p

I never knew we had such a bunch of lilly-livered surrender monkeys as fans! By the letter of the law we have been cheated, and are being asked to give up our right to appeal be an organisation not fit for purpose. An organsiation behaving in the best traditions of a south american banana republic, changing the rules to suit them. The more Pinnacle push the League and their old school tie brigade the better i like them.

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I agree, pinnicle are pushing back rather than just being pushed around. All they want is their right to appeal. They don't actually have to appeal. They are certainly getting th FL out of their comfort zone.

[sotonianproud]

Nothing like shedding a tear before work!!! My 5 year old son said, sorry Dad, its Man U for me!!! where do you go from there?

 

Obviously he is grounded for a year....

 

When my son attempted this, he was told simply when he is old enough to pay rent he can choose his own football club, until that point he has to support the one I choose for him, he is 16 now and Saints through and through.

[saints_is_the_south]

news just on radio solent. tony lynam texted in to say that the pinnacle group had been working late into the night to put proposals to the football league today which they say are confident of an amicable outcome. he said there well aware wages need to be paid tomorrow and are confident that the issues can be sorted out today

 

Only problem with this is that the FL then take all day to look at it, say no & then we're back to square 1 again.

[Danny]

ive had almost the same conversation with my son "Danny"

 

I'm flattered I've had such a profound effect on you and your family.

[alpine_saint]

When my son attempted this, he was told simply when he is old enough to pay rent he can choose his own football club, until that point he has to support the one I choose for him, he is 16 now and Saints through and through.

 

heheheh

[sotonjoe]

This brought a tear to my eyes

 

 

this is ghey and nothing to do with takeover gossip.

[Bongo badger]

Its been said Fry was in the smoke yesterday talking with some guys from where ever about buying the club, i would hate to have his job, it must get very very monotonous telling many people the same thing over and over again. Ahhh what do I know, hopefully today is the day the deal is clinched !

[Kingsland Red]

Ah when KR Junior showed Newcastle / Keegan tendencies as a six year old he was dragged down to The Dell . 12 years of suffering later there is no way out - Saints till they die !!

[OldNick]

Why is it sappy ?

 

My missus is expecting in February, and I have found myself thinking of Matthew for a name too.

named after the father?.....only kidding Alps congratulations BTW

[OldNick]

Its been said Fry was in the smoke yesterday talking with some guys from where ever about buying the club, i would hate to have his job, it must get very very monotonous telling many people the same thing over and over again. Ahhh what do I know, hopefully today is the day the deal is clinched !

it is a great job. driving new Bentley convertables and meeting people for meals at s****y restaurants and having the ultimate power who you choose.Add the fantastic bonusses you make as you string the deals out for the big fees. Of course all this is done legally and correctly, no stone unturned and all that but it is hell of a good way to make a living.

[Channon's Sideburns]

I was watching SSN with my 6 year old tonight listening go MLTs statement and he suddenly went all quiet and I realised he was watching me.

 

'daddy you really like that chap don't you?' said he

 

'yes' said I ' he has been my hero for as long as I can remember'

 

Then he beamed all over his face and I swear to you he said

 

 

' I bet that's why you called me Matthew isn't it?'

 

I just smiled at him and he whispered

 

'does Mummy know?'

 

In the middle of all this farce I think I will always treasure those few brief seconds.

 

I know it's sappy but I am more than a little wasted

 

Channon's Sideburns likes this.

 

Funny thing, the other day when the rumours broke about KK, I posted on FB a Youtube link to the disallowed Keegan goal v Man U...my mum told me afterwards that my Dad (66) had watery eyes watching it...as did I...

 

THAT'S what this club is about...that some people previously linked to this club will NEVER understand...the love for this club runs through the generations.

 

My M&D first took me as a 5yr old..queuing up at 10am to get me to the front of the Milton...and I can't wait to take my 3yr old to StMarys either...:-)

[saintstr1]

If as reported Fry is pushing the club to other interested parties he obviously has lost confidence in Pinnacle, If he still thought they were almost there he would be relaxed and just waiting there final signature. Not looking good in my Opinion

[sunrise]

I wonder why the 'minor hitches' Pinnacle are supposedly having are taking quite a while to sort out? I also wonder what those hitches are? I don't think that the -10 is the only issue. Unless the deal gets completed today or tomorrow then personally I don't seeing happening at all - as you can see I've almost lost the faith.

 

As for Jackson, IF he did have money behind him and his was the successful bid, does that mean he'll be wanting a board position? I bloody well hope not! That buffoon totally showed himself up with the bournemouth farce and I don't him anywhere near my club!

[leehoudini]

No he wouldn't have just waited for their final signature. His remit is to get the best deal possible for the creditors, not merely wait for Pinnacle to sign up.