Tac-tics Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I am so ****ing bored off this, watching paint dry is much more compelling, hurry the fook up Pinnicle, Im loosing faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Lol, my team would die for the cause, unlike the fancy Dans he looked after. Only got a favourable result due to certain underhand tactics With hindsight I should have turned out for you alongside GM:smt073 yOU WOULD HAVE WON WITHOUT FAIL..Especially with Alpine and Stanley alongside us in midfield....What a quartet:smt007 Saints are looking at us very closely....Mind you so are sum in the medical profession:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Surely we have to get some sort of news today? I don't think i can take another day of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I am so ****ing bored off this, watching paint dry is much more compelling, hurry the fook up Pinnacle, Im loosing faith. I don't really think it's exactly their fault. Unfortunately, i'm kind of resigned now to hearing more and more and more bad news. I don't think anything will get done this week - so best not hang around the website continually pressing 'F5' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I find the fact that he posts on here worrying. If I was trying to nail down a multimillion pound deal for a client worth hundreds of millions I wouldn't give a monkeys about keeping a few nerds on a message board up-to-date. Wasnt that one of the problems with the previous incumbant? i think the odd statement on here or various mediums is a nice touch and long may it continue. I would be more worried if he got into banter and name calling which is the usual stance for many on here but as it is I think its a plus point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 That really sums it up for me:rolleyes: If you could add the old lady with the rollong pin standing behind The Saints supporter....Its only a game being spouted....You know what I mean...I am not good at all that picture stuff:smt073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 dont know how to get this on the page, but this is how I feel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Have they found the missing cat yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-skacel Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 saints fans are so used to being treated like 2nd class citizens by the previous bunch of losers in control of the club,that when someone goes about it the right way,we are naturally a bit surprised.makes a nice change to actually have someone who feels it's the right thing to do, to keep us all updated on events,so let's not knock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Have they found the missing cat yet? The dear old lady is down the civic cop shop preparing a photo fit.:smt007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 [draganov;]Have they found the missing cat yet? [/next doors dog has started barkin again some thing must be up.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Have they found the missing cat yet? Not yet. Poor moggy. Talking about cats, does anyone remember the Bristol City away game season ago when a cat ran across the pitch? It scarpered from our end, weaved its way through the players and ended up leaping into the other stand. Well amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyd Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I find the fact that he posts on here worrying. If I was trying to nail down a multimillion pound deal for a client worth hundreds of millions I wouldn't give a monkeys about keeping a few nerds on a message board up-to-date.[/Q Good job you are not buying the club. It is called stakeholder management as they are keen to build a good brand for the business and not become Lowe like before they take over!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Not yet. Poor moggy. Talking about cats, does anyone remember the Bristol City away game season ago when a cat ran across the pitch? It scarpered from our end, weaved its way through the players and ended up leaping into the other stand. Well amusing. I do remember that, hope it got home safetly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 If I were the money man/woman, and reading on here to get a gauge on what I was buying, I'd be telling TL not to bother. What a bunch of wingeing whining drama queens. This deal will either happen, or not, but looking at the posts of some of you on here, makes me wonder if you want it to happen............Cripes, to think I among others was pilloried for not going last season, and my right to be called a fan was bought into question. FFS.......grow up, let the man do his job. Woman? LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I do remember that, hope it got home safetly. TBF this is not my biggest worry at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I find the fact that he posts on here worrying. If I was trying to nail down a multimillion pound deal for a client worth hundreds of millions I wouldn't give a monkeys about keeping a few nerds on a message board up-to-date. You have to laugh at this, previously we have moaned about not being kept up to date and moaned about being kept in the dark now we have someone keeping us updated and what do some do on here, ****ing moan. You can't win. It also amazes me how some on here are now doubting Pinnacles offer, this from a consortium who have put a non refundable deposit of £1/2million up front, if they are now backing of as some suggest why would they waste this money in the first place. I remember when Notts County were in administration for 18 months so we are not as hard done by as some suggest, just give it time and I'm sure it will turn out alright, with MLT fronting the bid you know we have someone who cares passionately about the club and he will not want us to go tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 This is becoming less and less likely the longer we hear nothing. ******. We had better get prepared to the Blue Sq league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 You have to laugh at this, previously we have moaned about not being kept up to date and moaned about being kept in the dark now we have someone keeping us updated and what do some do on here, ****ing moan. You can't win. It also amazes me how some on here are now doubting Pinnacles offer, this from a consortium who have put a non refundable deposit of £1/2million up front, if they are now backing of as some suggest why would they waste this money in the first place. I remember when Notts County were in administration for 18 months so we are not as hard done by as some suggest, just give it time and I'm sure it will turn out alright, with MLT fronting the bid you know we have someone who cares passionately about the club and he will not want us to go tits up. I was halfway through typing the self same thing - well said Sir. Nothing is going to happen today is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 This is becoming less and less likely the longer we hear nothing. ******. We had better get prepared to the Blue Sq league. My feelings too, if we don't hear anything positive today then it may well be curtains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Lowe out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Thank God it is nearly Friday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 if we don't hear anything positive today then it may well be curtains. Why? TL has stated most clealy that he is on the verge of signing the documents once the last few details have been clarified how have we gone from that is the space of a few hours to the blue square? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Why? TL has stated most clealy that he is on the verge of signing the documents once the last few details have been clarified how have we gone from that is the space of a few hours to the blue square? because after so much false hope these passed few years we have learned not to count our chickens. Talk is cheap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 My feelings too, if we don't hear anything positive today then it may well be curtains. D for DRAMA QUEENS. Sit tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Why? TL has stated most clealy that he is on the verge of signing the documents once the last few details have been clarified how have we gone from that is the space of a few hours to the blue square? We're running out of time, wages have to be paid on Thursday & TL's message to Hypo didn't exactly fill me with confidence. We've had so many false dawns in the past i guess i'm just expecting the worse to happen, i pray that i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 D for DRAMA QUEENS. Sit tight. you're right, of course. Just want to hear something positive and then get back to my day job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 You have to laugh at this, previously we have moaned about not being kept up to date and moaned about being kept in the dark now we have someone keeping us updated and what do some do on here, ****ing moan. You can't win. It also amazes me how some on here are now doubting Pinnacles offer, this from a consortium who have put a non refundable deposit of £1/2million up front, if they are now backing of as some suggest why would they waste this money in the first place. I remember when Notts County were in administration for 18 months so we are not as hard done by as some suggest, just give it time and I'm sure it will turn out alright, with MLT fronting the bid you know we have someone who cares passionately about the club and he will not want us to go tits up. I'm not moaning about it, I think it's great that TL keeps us up-to-date, long may it continue, if everything is kosher then it is a breath of fresh air. My point is that I would have thought he was too busy sorting stuff out to be keeping us lot informed, especially considering the amounts of cash involved and that everything is so time critical. Maybe I'm just paranoid after all the ****** fantasists like Jackson have posted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Squeky bums time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 because after so much false hope these passed few years we have learned not to count our chickens. Talk is cheap.... Hardly. Most everyone was wetting themselves back in May. My questions and concerns outlined four weeks ago are still questions now. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=315498&postcount=205 This universal outpouring of joy is pretty amazing. Consider the facts: 1. We have no idea who our owner is. 2. We have no idea who the manager will be. 3. We have no idea who the players will be. 4. We have no idea about whoever has taken us over's short or long term plans. 5. The only communication has been a Mike Wilde-style letter The takeover isn't even complete, and one has to wonder exactly why it took this long - is the new guy really committed to Saints? He might be, he might not be - I hope it is the former but nobody has any idea. So why the outpouring of joy? The other bids might easily have been better for the football club and fans, but this one was the best for the creditors. I don't know one way or the other but history has taught us Saints fans that dropping your pants and jumping into bed in delight without knowing the full details is fraught with repercussions down the line. The situation is unchanged, except we're into preseason and we've had a whole bunch of Mike Wilde style letters after the initial one. Pinnacle's credibility is shot for me - even if they pull this off I don't have any confidence in Lynam to run the club more competently than he had run the takeover. The fact the money guy is STILL anonymous means he can easily walk away at any point. Things don't look any more rosy now than when I was mocked for my doubts last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 We're running out of time, wages have to be paid on Thursday & TL's message to Hypo didn't exactly fill me with confidence. We've had so many false dawns in the past i guess i'm just expecting the worse to happen, i pray that i'm wrong. I thought Pinnacle have said they are paying this months wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 We're running out of time, wages have to be paid on Thursday & TL's message to Hypo didn't exactly fill me with confidence. We've had so many false dawns in the past i guess i'm just expecting the worse to happen, i pray that i'm wrong. Haven't you seen the message from TL to say they are paying the wages on Thursday? Please keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 (edited) I'm not moaning about it, I think it's great that TL keeps us up-to-date, long may it continue, if everything is kosher then it is a breath of fresh air. My point is that I would have thought he was too busy sorting stuff out to be keeping us lot informed, especially considering the amounts of cash involved and that everything is so time critical. Maybe I'm just paranoid after all the ****** fantasists like Jackson have posted before. It takes about two minutes to post a message, not difficult to do whilst waiting to hear from the football league. Edited 23 June, 2009 by saintwarwick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 TL has stated most clealy that he is on the verge of signing the documents once the last few details have been clarified how have we gone from that is the space of a few hours to the blue square? This is another one of the problems I am having with this deal. IF it is Pinnacle doing the deal and some mug has provided this company with £15M to spunk on Southampton Football Club, then Tony Lynam can sign the contract on behalf of Pinnacle to purchase the assets, as he is a director of said company. I say this, because we all know that Pinnacle is worth about 5 bob and is in no position to commit to a sizeable asset purchase without outside help. But this is not going to happen, is it? Any sane investor would ensure that it is his signature on the contract or if not, he ends up owning the assets, in the form of a holding company or something like it (Newco). Now, if Lynam has become a director of Newco, he won't be signing on behalf of Pinnacle or himself. Of course, he could be signing as an agent of Newco, but, why? What is likely to happen, IF this circus is for real, is for the money man to sign the asset purchase agreement, pat Tony Lynam on the head and make him Director of Pencil Sharpening at St. Marys and then enter the stadium in a blaze of glory. It's what rich people who buy football clubs do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Hardly. Most everyone was wetting themselves back in May. My questions and concerns outlined four weeks ago are still questions now. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=315498&postcount=205 The situation is unchanged, except we're into preseason and we've had a whole bunch of Mike Wilde style letters after the initial one. Pinnacle's credibility is shot for me - even if they pull this off I don't have any confidence in Lynam to run the club more competently than he had run the takeover. The fact the money guy is STILL anonymous means he can easily walk away at any point. Things don't look any more rosy now than when I was mocked for my doubts last month. Of course along with the £1/2million+ he has wasted on the non refundable deposit plus the wages they are paying on Thursday, once the mystery buyer has paid these wages he can walk away happily knowing he has nothing to show for his generosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 23 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Haven't you seen the message from TL to say they are paying the wages on Thursday? Please keep up. My apologies, hadn't seen that. Where did he state that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPaddy Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 A friend who works at the stadium has had a phone call to say they won't being getting paid Thursday. This is obviously about more than just 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 A friend who works at the stadium has had a phone call to say they won't being getting paid Thursday. This is obviously about more than just 10 points. Yeah...it's about £15M... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Nickh, could you confirm this thing about the pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Le Taxi Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 A friend who works at the stadium has had a phone call to say they won't being getting paid Thursday. This is obviously about more than just 10 points. Wotte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I saw his quote as well, can't remember where though! Tony was being bullish and confident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 blooming heck it is slow on here today....even the debates have dried up. It is the calm before the storm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 blooming heck it is slow on here today....even the debates have dried up. It is the calm before the storm..... I am quite pleased we have heard nothing, means they are hopefully whirling like a dirvish to complete deal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 A friend who works at the stadium has had a phone call to say they won't being getting paid Thursday. This is obviously about more than just 10 points. Perhaps....just perhaps....Pinnacle have come to an arrangement with the Football League whereby the FL agree to restrict the points penalty to -10 as long as SFC go through the CVA process. But, of course, to do that SFC itself would have to go into administration....and perhaps (that's a big "perhaps")....'engineering' a missed pay day will force SFC into a technical administration, so that they can bounce straight back out of it with the requisit CVA....and, hey presto, the FL are happy and SFC are (relatively) happy because we've avoided something worse than a -10 point penalty. Could that be what it's all about? i.e. it's not just about the -10 points, it's about going through the due process to avoid further points penalties and/or demotions??????? No idea...I'm making this up as I go along (first time for everything....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 This is another one of the problems I am having with this deal. IF it is Pinnacle doing the deal and some mug has provided this company with £15M to spunk on Southampton Football Club, then Tony Lynam can sign the contract on behalf of Pinnacle to purchase the assets, as he is a director of said company. I say this, because we all know that Pinnacle is worth about 5 bob and is in no position to commit to a sizeable asset purchase without outside help. But this is not going to happen, is it? Any sane investor would ensure that it is his signature on the contract or if not, he ends up owning the assets, in the form of a holding company or something like it (Newco). Now, if Lynam has become a director of Newco, he won't be signing on behalf of Pinnacle or himself. Of course, he could be signing as an agent of Newco, but, why? What is likely to happen, IF this circus is for real, is for the money man to sign the asset purchase agreement, pat Tony Lynam on the head and make him Director of Pencil Sharpening at St. Marys and then enter the stadium in a blaze of glory. It's what rich people who buy football clubs do... I get the feeling you dont like the idea of this deal GM lol Its frustrating not knowing the ins and outs of the deal and who is involved but my guess is TL wouldnt have got as far as he has with this supposed takeover if he hadnt proved that he has the authority to speak on behalf of the prospective new owner. If your right in that Pinnacle have bugger all funds themselves then we can only assume that the deposit of 500k plus what ever extra is meant to have been paid for the Ajax game must have come from someone else. So it would appear that there is financial backing and it must have proved that there is enough backing to complete the takeover. I think the issues are not about money but more about the league and its implimentation of dodgy rules. if the takeover eventually happens I will wait and see if it brings people who can take the club forward or if its more of what we have been used to in the past. I am hoping its more possitive than negative though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I am quite pleased we have heard nothing, means they are hopefully whirling like a dirvish to complete deal!! Take a guess of what has happened today....1st thing this morning Pinnacle to FL " can you as a matter of urgency clarify this last point, then we can complete our deal". FL "yeah may look at it later if we have time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Take a guess of what has happened today....1st thing this morning Pinnacle to FL " can you as a matter of urgency clarify this last point, then we can complete our deal". FL "yeah may look at it later if we have time". ...whilst we think of some other way to make it up as we go along and shaft you some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 I pointed this out yesterday - he just won't shut up about Lowe. And neither will you once he is back ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 June, 2009 Share Posted 23 June, 2009 Some time ago Dubai Phil posted up how any fan could buy the club, it was to do with leveraging , a bit like the Glazers have done with Man U. Perhaps that is the case now if it was true that the moneyman was not fully on board a few weeks ago.The fact that LC paid the deposit (as was reported yesterday and it was called Crouchs Pinnacle group on the BBC teletext) sent a few alarm bells ringing. If TL does indeed pay the wages thursday then I will be happy that our concerns are groundless. For the posters to call fans drama queens is out of order, they may be complacent enough to believe all is right but many are losing confidence. It is MLT at the front that has stopped many from all out questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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