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I fully expect League 2 to be rebranded as "League 1A" in the near future then no-one needs to feel inferior.

 

Ah yes! Then what would L2 become? L1B? The conference could then become L1C and so on down the line so that every club in the land all the way down to the likes of Totton FC and St Marys Primary School Reserves could legitimately class themselves as "First Division" football teams!

 

:smt113:rolleyes:

Posted
What baffles me is what role is Leon Crouch playing in all of this. Why should he have been at the meeting with KK and MLT?. Could he be the mysterious backer or already have been identified for a role in the new setup at the club.

 

I'm getting a headache just thinking about all of the potential options !

 

Well, it is exactly the kind of money-wasting, fan-pandering, ill-thought out scheme that Crouch has been associated with so far...

 

In the interests of balance that's as opposed to Lowe's money-scrimping, fan-ignoring, ill-thought out schemes...

Posted
Well, it is exactly the kind of money-wasting, fan-pandering, ill-thought out scheme that Crouch has been associated with so far...

 

Keegan at SMS would be money generating

Posted
it is all a plan

we buy season tickets

then he walks

and wotte is reappointed

 

Hopefully, if that is the case, it will finally be a defining u-turn. Poortvliet will come back to get us promoted to Championship, then Pearson, Dodd/Gorman, Burley before Redknapp takes us back to the Prem, before going back to Pompey and sending them down after a couple of years. Strachan will then take over, and take us to the 2016 FA Cup Final.

 

Ideal.

Posted
it is all a plan

we buy season tickets

then he walks

and wotte is reappointed

 

Good plan. Just the rumour seems to have half the people here buying season tickets. Few more masterstrokes like that and we'll have more cash than Abramovich.

Posted (edited)
There's always one Phil - well, two actually - The9 and Portland Wilfred. You can't please everyone. Apparently the arguments against are "much and varied", although of course neither can come up with any of substance, or based on fact.

 

Oh, sorry. Right, well there's :

 

1) Tactical naivete - evidenced in Newcastle's lack of defending (in 2008/9 and even in 1996), England's Euro 2000 debacle and the early qualifiers thereafter. And the whole of his Man City stint.

 

2) He's a quitter - walking away from Newcastle (twice), Man City and England. Can't remember what happened at Fulham...

 

3) He's a chequebook manager who is only successful when he spends vast amounts of cash, or his teams are significantly better than the others in the League (Fulham, Man City outside the Prem). His greatest management success is actually failing to win the Prem with Newcastle at a time when Blackburn had only just chucked money at winning the title and succeeded, and blowing up on tv in a way that is still mock-worthy 13 years later.

 

4) He's over-emotional and can't deal with not getting his own way, leading to 2).

 

5) The money spent on him as a manager would be better spent on improving the team. If he's Director of Football it's just money wasted. Conversely, if Pinnacle have that much money that they're not BOTHERED about wasting that kind of money, I'd point them at Man City's massive successes last season...

 

6) He has very little management experience in the 3rd tier of English football, and what there was is getting on for 10 years ago - and he had Fayed's chequebook, which Micky Adams arguably did better with.

 

7) He doesn't actually need to be involved with football, so has little motivation for success.

 

8 ) He's rubbish at riding bikes on gravel.

 

Oh, and as far as providing "facts", I'm the one who posted Keegans actual managerial career dates, rather than engaging in a sidetracking debate about who meant what by "div 1"...

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I'm relying on the integrity of MLT and whoever/whatever is involved in fulfilling our football commitments gets my full support. Beggars can't be choosers, the new owners have the right to choose who they want for a management team and I just want to get my season ticket ready for the Millwall game.

 

Bring it on.

Posted

I have to say I wish I could share all your optimism but Keegan possibly coming to Saints really does concern me. :confused:

Posted

I tried to put a bet on Keegan being manager but bookie said have to be a vacancy...spoke to Tony Lynam in pub last night said all be done and dusted Friday...oh and season tickets on sale Monday...

Posted
I have to say I wish I could share all your optimism but Keegan possibly coming to Saints really does concern me. :confused:

 

It would concern me in the Prem and possibly the CCC, but I think he could do well with a motivated group of players in Lg1 - few of the other realistic options inspire me.

Posted
I have to say I wish I could share all your optimism but Keegan possibly coming to Saints really does concern me. :confused:

 

Not as much as Wotte staying on as manager concerns me.. ;-)

Posted
I have to say I wish I could share all your optimism but Keegan possibly coming to Saints really does concern me. :confused:

 

Whys that? Would you rather have a manager with no record of promotion that doesnt unite 99% of the fanbase and play hit it and hope football with a load of demotivated players?

 

Keegan may have a track record of resigning, but he doesnt have a track record of getting sacked, which I think is more impressive. His promotion record is also second-to-none and the best thing of all, players would actually ant to play for him.

Posted
6) He has very little management experience in the 3rd tier of English football...

 

But surely Keegan, who has got out of this division before, is better in League One than someone who may have been managing in it for a lot longer... but has never had the managerial skills to actually get out of it? He may have lots more 'experience', but this is because this manager hasn't been good enough!!! Keegan, on the other hand, has, and although my hope isn't exceedingly high, surely we can guarantee that he won't turn from maestro to plonker over a few lost brain cells (with age)?

Posted
I tried to put a bet on Keegan being manager but bookie said have to be a vacancy...spoke to Tony Lynam in pub last night said all be done and dusted Friday...oh and season tickets on sale Monday...

 

Takeover done & dusted by Friday or Keegan? Or both?

Posted

In the interests of balance, this is what I think Keegan would bring us positively :

 

1) Feelgood factor, for as long as we didn't actually lose any games. This may be December 2010 when we're top of the Championship, it might be August 5th 2009.

 

2) Increased merchandise sales. Allied to a nice Rank Xerox style away kit, number 7 shirts which DIDN'T have Le Tiss's name on would be flying out of the window, and we'd run out of K and E letters in the Megastore. There would be a Hampshire-wide shortage of Afro wigs.

 

3) Enthusiasm. Which might help the kids a lot, assuming we're not signing Ronaldinho and the like to replace them.

 

4) Enhanced status. We'd be a big club in League One. Which we are anyway, but we'd have Kevin Keegan. So we'd be on telly slightly more often.

Posted
Oh, sorry. Right, well there's :

 

1) Tactical naivete - evidenced in Newcastle's lack of defending (in 2008/9 and even in 1996), England's Euro 2000 debacle and the early qualifiers thereafter. And the whole of his Man City stint.

 

2) He's a quitter - walking away from Newcastle (twice), Man City and England. Can't remember what happened at Fulham...

 

3) He's a chequebook manager who is only successful when he spends vast amounts of cash, or his teams are significantly better than the others in the League (Fulham, Man City outside the Prem). His greatest management success is actually failing to win the Prem with Newcastle at a time when Blackburn had only just chucked money at winning the title and succeeded, and blowing up on tv in a way that is still mock-worthy 13 years later.

 

4) He's over-emotional and can't deal with not getting his own way, leading to 2).

 

5) The money spent on him as a manager would be better spent on improving the team. If he's Director of Football it's just money wasted. Conversely, if Pinnacle have that much money that they're not BOTHERED about wasting that kind of money, I'd point them at Man City's massive successes last season...

 

6) He has very little management experience in the 3rd tier of English football, and what there was is getting on for 10 years ago - and he had Fayed's chequebook, which Micky Adams arguably did better with.

 

7) He doesn't actually need to be involved with football, so has little motivation for success.

 

8 ) He's rubbish at riding bikes on gravel.

 

Oh, and as far as providing "facts", I'm the one who posted Keegans actual managerial career dates, rather than engaging in a sidetracking debate about who meant what by "div 1"...

 

You know best I suppose!

 

If only MLT had your insight.:rolleyes:

Posted
I tried to put a bet on Keegan being manager but bookie said have to be a vacancy...spoke to Tony Lynam in pub last night said all be done and dusted Friday...oh and season tickets on sale Monday...

 

Seems like he is always down the pub.

 

Get in an office and do some bloody work for once!!

;-)

Posted
Thats the spirit The9. such positivity!

 

God, Keegan would love you. Just keep smiling. :)

 

I just think there are endless better candidates and people are falling in love with the idea not the reality.

 

Hell, I'd even welcome Hoddle back ahead of him in terms of expected on-pitch product... but not Redknapp (which incidentally was the last time we had this kind of uniform love-in over an appointment potentially made for all the wrong reasons).

Posted
Even if he brings nothing else, its fantastic to be the main story on Sky Sports ahead of Arsenal, Chelsea and Real Madrid!

 

Maybe you should blow up the stadium with a flybe plane then. :rolleyes:

Posted
You know best I suppose!

 

If only MLT had your insight.:rolleyes:

 

I'll give him vision, I'm not sure I'll go with insight. Assuming all of this is true, they obviously have a plan.

 

I just hope it doesn't involve having Kevin Keegan as the team's manager, that's all.

Posted
Maybe you should blow up the stadium with a flybe plane then. :rolleyes:

 

Think you're missing the point. Keegan brings glamour and interest, and theres precious little of that in Lg1. If he attracts fans and good players because of who he is - thats all good.

Posted
spoke to Tony Lynam in pub last night said all be done and dusted Friday

 

Serious request....please could you ask him what time tomorrow....Morning, afternoon or evening? Thanks

Posted

Hey, Saints is the south...no wind -up 100% truth! I've been a Saints fan for 45 years and even tho we're in Div 1 I've not been so excited since we won the Cup!

Posted
God, Keegan would love you. Just keep smiling. :)

 

I just think there are endless better candidates and people are falling in love with the idea not the reality.

 

Hell, I'd even welcome Hoddle back ahead of him in terms of expected on-pitch product... but not Redknapp (which incidentally was the last time we had this kind of uniform love-in over an appointment potentially made for all the wrong reasons).

 

What ...can you tell me what Hoddle has won in management compared to this for Keegan ?

 

Managerial career

 

Newcastle United Winner

 

* Division One: 1992–93

 

Runner Up

 

* FA Charity Shield: 1996–97

 

Fulham Winner

 

* Second Division: 1998–99

 

Manchester City Winner

 

* Division One: 2001–02

Posted
In the interests of balance, this is what I think Keegan would bring us positively :

 

1) Feelgood factor, for as long as we didn't actually lose any games. This may be December 2010 when we're top of the Championship, it might be August 5th 2009.

 

2) Increased merchandise sales. Allied to a nice Rank Xerox style away kit, number 7 shirts which DIDN'T have Le Tiss's name on would be flying out of the window, and we'd run out of K and E letters in the Megastore. There would be a Hampshire-wide shortage of Afro wigs.

 

3) Enthusiasm. Which might help the kids a lot, assuming we're not signing Ronaldinho and the like to replace them.

 

4) Enhanced status. We'd be a big club in League One. Which we are anyway, but we'd have Kevin Keegan. So we'd be on telly slightly more often.

 

It's great isn't it. The perfect antidote to the poison we have been subjected to over the last several years.

 

Might even get the hair that is left on my bald head permed in honour of the great man. Would have to grow it into a Terry Nutkins first, but it should be ready for the first game of the season.

Posted
Hey, Saints is the south...no wind -up 100% truth! I've been a Saints fan for 45 years and even tho we're in Div 1 I've not been so excited since we won the Cup!

 

I haven't been so excited since I found out what my winky was for.

Posted
Think you're missing the point. Keegan brings glamour and interest, and theres precious little of that in Lg1. If he attracts fans and good players because of who he is - thats all good.

 

 

Thats the truth of it.

 

Hello mr joe bloggs we would like you down SMS on tuesday....

 

joe bloggs walks into the SMS office and see's KK sitting at the table offering his hand to sign for saints.

 

joe bloggs walks into the SMS office and see's Mark Wotte sitting at the table offering his hand to sign for saints.

 

no brainer.....!!

Posted
God, Keegan would love you. Just keep smiling. :)

 

I just think there are endless better candidates and people are falling in love with the idea not the reality.

 

Hell, I'd even welcome Hoddle back ahead of him in terms of expected on-pitch product... but not Redknapp (which incidentally was the last time we had this kind of uniform love-in over an appointment potentially made for all the wrong reasons).

 

One of your reasons was that Keegan was a quitter then you said you would select someone who was sacked by England, Tottenham and Wolves and quit Southampton...you can see why I find a problem with your logic cant you.

 

PS

I still think this story is a smokescreen.

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