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Lets recruit a man who turned his back on management and football completely for 3 years and came back to the 'only club he would come back for' and proved he neither had the ability or the fight to tackle the modern game IMO.

 

We also have reports on here saying that KK has allegedly said he is happy and does not want to come back to football management again as I think he has lost his motivation for the game at the professional level and enjoying his grass roots involvement and fair play to him for that.

 

Lets think football not fairy tales.

 

I am surprised with myself to say this, but I totally agree with you 19.

 

So many epople on this thread need to take the rose-tinted glasses off and stop living in the past. KK has lost his appetite for management and, I suspect, his bottle too.

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I don't think anyone has mentioned the Channon/horse connection too - I seem to remember KK had some involvement in the past? Would love it to be KK, but I cannot believe we are THAT fortunate. Plus also, I am hearing equally strong rumours that WGS is in the frame, which I find equally hard to believe. We are Saints, in the 3rd tier, with a rag-tag side, -10 points and a new owner about to come in. We'll end up with the cheap option - as we have for the last 10 years +.

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typical, let's completely ignore him as the man who transformed Fulham and took them up the leagues and let's concentrate on recent "failures."

1) His failure to take Newcastle down

2) His failure to ressurect Man city

3) His failure to do anything with Fulham

4) His failure to win the league with Newcastle

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5) His failure to win the world cup..

 

It's truly inbelievable how some fans (ie Numpteeen Canteen) can try and claim the "intellectual" high ground and "think football not fairytales" They'll completely ignore the fact athat at the very heart of thing, Keegan is a bloody good manager. Ask any Man City fan, ask any Geordie, ask any Fulham fan and they'll tell you exactly the same... Their club was only healthy thanks to his involvement.

 

It's childish, churlish and rather obtuse to just look at his recent record and ignore his very real achievments. The man has a successful track record at this and all other domestic levels. He failled as England manager. So did Ericsson, the difference being that Ericsson milked the FA for months after his dismisal, Keegan felt out of his depth and fell on his sword. Ask old Numpteen who he'd rather have as manager and he will go for Ericsson, which would show his complete and utter obsessive dislike of anything pre Lowe and his complete and utter lack of knowledge of football...

 

So his recent track record is patchy, if it was a player we'd quote "Class is permanent etc" so why has Keegan suddenly become useless? The man has every experience needed. It is extremly blinkered to assume that Keegan is over the hill now. Give him a real challenge, give him a good chairman and I have every reason to believe that this club has a chance. But hell, no... Let's concentrate on dragging McMenemy into the conversation shall we numpteen?

 

Would I accept Keegan as manager, even if just for a few years? Hell yes! I'd take Keegan any day of the week. Ideally I'd have Keegan as manager and Shearer as assistant with Keegan moving upstairs and Shearer eventually taking the reigns, hell I can dream can't I?

 

Just get over it and **** off will you?

 

 

What he said... particularly the "**** off" bit

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I don't think anyone has mentioned the Channon/horse connection too - I seem to remember KK had some involvement in the past? Would love it to be KK, but I cannot believe we are THAT fortunate. Plus also, I am hearing equally strong rumours that WGS is in the frame, which I find equally hard to believe. We are Saints, in the 3rd tier, with a rag-tag side, -10 points and a new owner about to come in. We'll end up with the cheap option - as we have for the last 10 years +.

 

It would say a lot for our new owner and his plans for the club, if he could recruit a manager like Keegan or Strachan (rather Keegan).

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I am surprised with myself to say this, but I totally agree with you 19.

 

So many epople on this thread need to take the rose-tinted glasses off and stop living in the past. KK has lost his appetite for management and, I suspect, his bottle too.

 

But no one knows. Everyone is assuming what they think he's thinking just to suit an agenda/point of view.

 

It may well be that working grass roots has replenished his appetite for the game and going back to a club that adores him might be just what he needs... A chance to prove people wrong and go out on a high..

 

None of us know. All I know that in a hypothetical debate I'd be a fool to dismiss someone of his stature on grounds that people think he's lost his appetite.

 

Oh, and as for living in the past, football is all about the past. It's about past glories, it's seldom about the here and now. You buy a player based on what he's achieved in the past so why should that not be true of managers? Is Arsene Wenger crap? What's he won recently? Much? No, but historically he's a good manager and with what he's won in mind he has the capacity to be great again.

 

So has Keegan, not quite the glory days of Man City or Newcastle, but crappy old league One Saints? Hell why not???

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It may well be that working grass roots has replenished his appetite for the game and going back to a club that adores him might be just what he needs... A chance to prove people wrong and go out on a high..

 

Didn't Newcastle adore him?

 

I'd love to think you're right, but remain very sceptical.

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Anybody Found out where MLT lives yet ? ;)

 

He has 2/3 properties so I am told by a reliable source and fellow Channel Islander who was on the plane with him Sunday evening flying back to Southampton. One of the properties is in Chandlers Ford.

 

I could also ask his niece but no need to trouble her now.

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I would love it if KK was to return to us. He definitely has what it takes to turn this club around, given the right financial backing.

 

In reality, if KK was at Matt's home and assuming this was for football matters then I suspect it was to discuss key points to succeeding in this league, rather than to sound KK out on the managers job.

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Didn't Newcastle adore him?

 

I'd love to think you're right, but remain very sceptical.

 

Any manager worth his salt would have had serious concerns over the ludicrous signings that Wisey made. KK tried to sort it, the board backed Wisey... Newcastle were relegated by the actions of the board. Sound familiar?

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He has 2/3 properties so I am told by a reliable source and fellow Channel Islander who was on the plane with him Sunday evening flying back to Southampton. One of the properties is in Chandlers Ford.

 

 

 

So it could be Ringwood , Hedge end , West end , Chandlers ford , Guernsey.......... They seek him here they seek him there , They seek our MLT everywhere.

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Didn't Newcastle adore him?

 

I'd love to think you're right, but remain very sceptical.

 

But his hands were tied by a crap chairman. Given support, both emotionally and finacially, Keegan delivers.

 

Oh, and before the smartarses start on with the "Oh, so I expect him to sign Ronaldo then" Keegan did work well under a limited budget at Fulham and an average budget at Man City so he can work lower league... it has been proved..

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Kevin Keegan and Matthew Le Tissier in charge of the club or Jan Poortvliet and Rupert Lowe in charge?

 

hmmm thats a tough one.....!

 

Surely everyone should be ecstatic at even the prospect (however unlikely) of KK and MLT running the show. Anything will be a step in the right direction from a year ago with JP and Lowe.

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It may well be that working grass roots has replenished his appetite for the game and going back to a club that adores him might be just what he needs... A chance to prove people wrong and go out on a high..

 

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Yep perhaps the old ego showing that he is up to it.The thought that he would be worshipped by fans again. I would think it is a drug, the adulation and all that goes with it.

Ok he can play golf every day but I bet he misses the stuff that goes with managing a team.We need a similar scenario to when LM was manager, he rarely took training but left that to others, the signings etc he chose and sorted.

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KK would be an excellent (if unlikly) appointment IMO , the sheer ambition of signing a manager of this calibre and reputation would truly signal to the football world just how serious our prospective new owner is about restoring SFC to its former glories . It should go without saying Keegan would only accept a challenge of this magnitude if he felt there was a genuine prospect of achieving something worthwhile here , otherwise why would a manager of his standing bother coming down to a L1 club ?

 

Whoever ends up managing the team before any real success can occur the need for significant investment in the club is quite obvious - this level of spending can not possibly be funded my the kind of income generated in the lower leagues .

 

If we really see Kevin Keegan appointed as manager in the next week or so then you can rest assured SFC will truly be a (very) rich man's plaything for the first time in its long history .

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How about 2 part time managers...WGS to get the players fit and "sort them" if necessary...and KK to inspire and get them playing flashy football.... They can both play golf with MLT and enjoy the South coast revival...

 

Oh well, one can but dream!

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well I noticed it but his brother was on here and said none of them knew anything about the takeover as MO had not asked MLT

 

Wasn't that more a case of not knowing / asking the identity of Mr / Mrs X?

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How about 2 part time managers...WGS to get the players fit and "sort them" if necessary...and KK to inspire and get them playing flashy football.... They can both play golf with MLT and enjoy the South coast revival...

 

Oh well, one can but dream!

 

WGS is not working at the mo so why cant we contract him to sort out pre-season? At least the team would be fit for a tough league. That would be the 1st season since he left that the team start fit and ready.

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But his hands were tied by a crap chairman. Given support, both emotionally and finacially, Keegan delivers.

 

Oh, and before the smartarses start on with the "Oh, so I expect him to sign Ronaldo then" Keegan did work well under a limited budget at Fulham and an average budget at Man City so he can work lower league... it has been proved..

 

If you define a limited budget at Fulham as something in the region of 10x's the average, then yes? I don't rate KK as a manager but cannot see it as anything else but a massive win win for Saints because of everything it would represent from the crowds to the player budget etc. But you need so many boxes ticked for him to accept, I really doubt it.

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I would love this rumour to be true, but is it really likely?

 

Keegan would definitely generate a fantastic buzz in the city and he has a good record getting lower league teams promoted. He may not be the best manager in the world but sometimes manager click with certain clubs. Just like Alan Ball did for us.

 

Alan Ball did a great job for us, but he never really had much success in management else where. We didn’t expect as much as say Man City did from him but he more than delivered what we wanted in his brief time as manager here. Bally also just gave the whole of Southampton a lift and I think Keegan would have much the same effect. For some reason he just clicked here and was loved by the fans much like Keegan would be. It does seem a real long shot right now as the deal for the takeover has not even been completed. It is probably as likely as my other choice, Strachan coming back.

 

Either of the two would be a brilliant appointment and a massive step in the right direction. I'll have to dream for now I guess!

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Alan Ball did a great job for us, but he never really had much success in management else where. We didn’t expect as much as say Man City did from him but he more than delivered what we wanted in his brief time as manager here.

 

Very good point and applicable to the KK argument!.

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Nope, he'll think, like most of us, that you're an unpleasant, post Euro 96, football hanger on who thrives on attention.

 

He'll think that, in life, you're rather unremarkable and thrive on being a cyberwarrior/internet personality.

 

He'll think that you probably avoided sport at school and spent most of your gym classes in your underwear and now follow "footy" to ingratiate yourself on the sort of blokes who avoided you like the plague at school...

 

 

Great post Darren, you ever thought of becoming a psycologists because if I didn't know better I'd think you knew the troll...lol

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He'll think that you probably avoided sport at school and spent most of your gym classes in your underwear and now follow "footy" to ingratiate yourself on the sort of blokes who avoided you like the plague at school...

 

You do have to wonder just makes someone tick if they have to get their kicks from trolling these boards under various user names, sending unsolicited e-mails and generally getting enjoyment out of spamming forums (and that's before we get on to the sob sob stories :smt046).

 

I have a very good picture of Sundance and it certainly fits your starting point;)

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I believe that Scally is Mike Osmans brother.

 

Sorry about the confussion, what I said about Mike knowing nothing about the takeover and who the money man is still stands, or at least if he does know anything he has not told me about it. I have heard a rumour about the new manager but only the same stuff that is doing the rounds on here. I hope that clears it up.

Cheers Scally

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Sorry about the confussion, what I said about Mike knowing nothing about the takeover and who the money man is still stands, or at least if he does know anything he has not told me about it. I have heard a rumour about the new manager but only the same stuff that is doing the rounds on here. I hope that clears it up.

Cheers Scally

 

which one of the 97 rumours did you hear Scally?

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Nope, he'll think, like most of us, that you're an unpleasant, post Euro 96, football hanger on who thrives on attention.

 

He'll think that, in life, you're rather unremarkable and thrive on being a cyberwarrior/internet personality.

 

He'll think that you probably avoided sport at school and spent most of your gym classes in your underwear and now follow "footy" to ingratiate yourself on the sort of blokes who avoided you like the plague at school...

 

=D>

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Do I think Keegan is the best manager, logical choice, most stable or pragmatic choice for manager - No

 

Would I love to see him appointed - OMG Yes.

 

10k on the gates, 110% on the field and Saints in the spotlight. We are a great club and for too long have been looking down instead of up. Ask yourself would Surman, McG and Lallana stick a season in Div 3 to work with him, I think so.

 

The guy loves football, watch how he entered the stadium at St James' when he went back. No fanfare, he took his seat and looked a little embarassed by the whole hype which indicates he is a very private man.

 

I agree with others that it is unlikely he will join us, I would also be surprised if he would take a job as I am not 100% what implication that might have on his tribunal against Newcastle.

 

Anyway this Saints fan grew up when Kevin Keegan was as famous as Beckham and was one of the reasons I support the team I do now. So if it is okay, I am dreaming of this happening.

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Anybody Found out where MLT lives yet ? ;)

I do know where he lives..

He has a nice property close to the...................and we only had a meal there 10 days ago.

 

I believe Keegan could do a job for us, and he may come cheap as clearly he is already wealthy from football and outside interests and investments.

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Sure he'd be off in a helicopter when things got too tough but in the mean time he'd bring a f**king truckload of belief back to the club at all levels, and given the way we've watched trace of belief bleed out of the club these last years, I'd say he'd be the ideal man to inspire an unlikely surge back to the Championship. He might not stay around much longer than that but who do you want? Jesus?

 

Depends if he's any good with miracles. !

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