anothersaintinsouthsea

If that's your definition then great, you can stick to being a heterosexual you know.

A local football club and a school were granted a long-term lease to use the fields. In addition to them using it, other groups hire it out for football, rugby, cricket etc

What Labour would do wasn't relevant to the post that Toryers was commenting upon, it was a criticism of the Tories and not a comment on Labour. Of course a wider debate on alternatives is valid. But backers of Osborne et al can't simply resort to whataboutery when they get criticised. The Government is subject to praise and criticism on it's merits, just because one might think that the Tories have done a poor job doesn't mean that you therefore think Labour would've done better.

No, Gazza would've had similar problems if he was crap at football and never become famous. His autobiography is a great read and reveals that he has had plenty of demons right from an early age.

What about Labour wah wah wah..... Osborne staked his credibility on paying down the debt and he hasn't achieved it and doesn't look like achieving it soon. We might even get a "Quadruple dip" recession.

under no circumstances? really?

Think this happened just after some Saints lads got put away after a scuffle with some Charlton fans. IIRC they got caught after talking about the incident on the tinterweb.

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you'd despair at the prices in Waitrose gets coat

Hopefully this isn't an "Henry Signs" posting but saw this earlier and though it was very funny: https://www.youtube.com/embed/h_f1N51Gv9c

Great comment on the Snooze website: "I reckon we are now the only club that if we got the whole squad to sign a shirt it would actually de value it."

I noes, 30m of 'em and they are all pickpockets. run for the hills.

No, he's not a wheeler dealer, fack off, you can't say he's a wheeler dealer, he's a faaacking football manager.....

Blah blah ZZ Top blah blah

exactly there is a big difference between the gunman being killed during a struggle and the gunman being restrained and disarmed and then someone deciding to strangle him to death. I don't feel sorry for the bloke either way but in the second scenario you've potentially got a member of the public appointing himself judge, jury and executioner and that can't be allowed.

I was plain old SaintJoe. There was another poster on there called SouthseaSaint but that username didn't reappear once Saintsforever went down. I think I was on holiday at the time so have not got a clue what went on. Synopsis any one? I remember one poster called Corporate Ho. What a loon he was, anyone know what happened to him

Tricky one. For many people multiculturalisam has and is working. The vast majority of people from the vast majority of communities are law-abiding and get on with people from other communities - this would seem to fit your definition above. Integration is varied from no cross-over for many to lots of cross-contact for others. I take issue that this can only happen in rich areas or under dictatorship. I don't know London that well but have relations in South London who live in very mixed neighbourhoods where people generally get along with each other even though they are not "rich" areas. Under dictatorships you don't get genuine multiculturalism. What you tend to get is multiple ehtnicities being forced to live according to rules of the ruling ethnic group. The trouble is that whenever something bad happens that has a community/ethnicity angle to it then people are quick to point out that "multiculturalism" has failed ignoring that it has worked for many and also that you get problems in any society. It isn't a choice between mutliculturalism and some mono-culture utopia. In a country with little multiculturalism and little multiethnicity you probably get a greater feeling of "we're all in it together" but that doesn't mean they don't have their own social and economic problems. The other angle is that often the biggest opposition to "multi-culturalism" in the UK doesn't come from wards in which there is lots of different cultures but actually from wards that border on multicultural wards but are very monocultural. I guess it could be described as the fear of "them" by the "us". When that BNP list became public a few years ago (note- I'm not saying all those against multi-culturalism are BNP sympathisers, more like all BNP members are against multiculturalism) I looked at the membership by local authority in the East Midlands (where my dad lives) and the greatest concentrations of members weren't in Leicester for example which is very mixed but in neighbouring rural areas which were very "white". I recongnise that there are problems in many towns across the UK but the cause of this is largely economic decline and de-industrialisation that has reduced the demand for unskilled physical labour and wrenched traditional focal points from small communities (the mill, the mine, the factory etc). The trouble with the northern mill towns was that large number of migrants went there just before the industry collapsed, whereas in more prosperous areas immigration has been attracted to growing industries that have remained prosperous. Anyway beginning to ramble here but as you can probably gather I'm very positive about multiculturalism (as well as the EU).

BS - it would help me to appreciate your views better if you can briefly define what you mean by "multiculturalism" and outline a scenario where it might be consider to be working. Cheers.

CB Fry you should put everything you own onto a bet that West Ham won't get relegated. As they have a zero chance of being relegated you are 100% guaranteed to win.

OK, I'm forming a picture of who you mean just think your description of them as "extreme fascist left" is rediculous. I'm surprised you've not lambasted the "liberal elite" - then your mask would've truly slipped.

Sorry bit confused - Clegg et al are the extreme fascist left?

the extreme fascist left? not sure I've heard of that one before.

I'm not sure he identified nationalists as right-wingers only.

Thought he was milking it at first but he did look genuinely upset. He's just a kid ffs.

14:36 [Comment From Joe Joe : ] If PST can't raise enough for a controlling interest i.e. >50% would you agree that you're basically helping to fund the takeover of the club by the HNW individuals? Wednesday January 23, 2013 14:36 Joe 14:37 Colin: I don't think PST will have less than 50 per cent. ANSWER THE ****ING QUESTION