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I think we got quite a good report from Sky, for a change. They said that the team played well, and that they did well for an hour with only 10 men. They said that the second goal was definitely offside. Their points agreed with me 100 %, which I have never been able to say before when watching a Sky match, that we played very well, we lack the decisive finishing in from of the goal, and the defence need sorting. We also need someone on the pitch, with a cooler head, to calm down the youngsters when they start getting a tad red-eyed.

Got to agree, it'll be Saints to score in the first 10 mins, then QPR just before the break, then QPR again on 70 mins against a run of play. Then Saints will outplay them again with 12 shots on target but hit the woodwork and saves. There will also be a cracking goal from distance at a Saints corner by spiderman which will be ruled off-side. McGoldrick will get a yellow card for arguing with the ref. I also see Theo being hailed the saviour of English football and failing to score in the next to games. I'm mystic mogg, thanks for coming and keep watching the sky, where you'll see all the stars shine.

I don't agree. I think they just need a bit of time that is all, with a few older heads to keep them grounded. I do agree that maybe we should start John though, as with bringing hiom on l,ate in the second half doesn't give him time to step his game up, I feel.

I always found 69 to be a mouthfull.

I have got to agree slightly as when i used to log on after works, there used to be a page of items that I had not seen. Now it's a couple of new ones and a few from the past that someone has just added a single post too. We need to set up a rota so that we can all take a turn at trolling to just get the debates going. I am only joking, of course. Perhaps it is because people have become more settled. We can't have a go at Lowes return, as he is already back, we can't winge about the team, as it is what it is and it seems settled a bit more, we can't winge at the manager as he is a completly different flavour from GB and it is too early to judge. The takeover has died a death for the time being. no one is speaking about us to any extent. No one wants relegation. There is an international break at the moment. So what is there to talk about?

On the woolston ferry is the place to be Choo Choo Choo, Choo Choo Choo,

what, and Posh as well. And all the paprazzi down west quay? Yep, I suppose I would too

What he said as well............with bells on

What he said with bells on.....

I would just like to add that most on here if given just the questions before hand, could have written what he said.

I have actually conceded this fact. I did actually believe this was his intention until this revelation. Still don't like him or trust him, but I have revised my opinion of his long plan and it seems logical to me, which makes me a little happier. Sorry Scoob but, as someone from the other camp admitting I might be wrong, I am yet to see you do likewise, I am afraid. Constructive critisism is good and allows a flowing debate, critisism for the sake of it is a waste and you might as well end each sentance with 'because I say so, yah boo sucks.' like a bunch of 5 year olds.

Please provide, as they say, evidence to support you claim that it is blindingly obvious that because I don't trust Lowe and believe it he will sell everything not nailed down, he is actually doing something more cautious in total contrast to my prejudiced beliefs. Also please provide how your reply is rational, cogent, well thought out and constructive. Many thanks

No, my great revelation is that the man I hate is not selling all and sundery for the money, but is actually trying to keep hold of the ones that are part of Jan's master plan. If you would have asked me last week if he would have sold Lallana and Surman, I would have said in a heartbeat. Hope this clarifies

To right, I had a run in with my QS today. One thing that I have to point out though, as I have been likening Construction with Football is that when QS's in smaller and medium sized companies have made construction and programming decisions, the companies have lost A LOT of money, and a few have gone bust. As I mentioned in my thread early today, Money Men cannot be alowed to make decisions as they have no inside knowledge or skillbase beyond their basic knowledge, and do not like to take measured risks. Trust me, I fight them every day.

Oh, and I disagree. I actually DON'T believe Lowe is trying to sell the family silver, where as a lot do. Remember, I am not keen on the man, nor do I find myself in a forgiving mood where he is concerned. My thread is mearly due to the fact that I have been able to draw some conclusions from my own personal experience.

It is a strange misconception of the travelling public when they say, 'Why can't you do it a night?' Well, believe it or not, most road jobs are done either at night or are 24/7, 7 days a week, (and you'll be glad to know that I am back at work after working today). If you see cones in the day it is because the road is not safe to drive on as it hasn't been finished. A lot of repairs are done over night and the road is open in the morning and you just drive over it without realising. And as I said above, the cost is very heavy for me as if we go over our target cost, we, (the contractor) pay the rest. The time factor is also very tight for me because if I am late, I have to write a report to explain why I am late, and finally my companies performance is measured and if I am late and over budget, that ius another nail in our coffin and too many nails and we get thrown off the Framework, which is a lot of money to us. Bloodsy hell, isn't that the same as relegation? Construction and Football with similarities. All we need now are a few brown envelopes, and crook or two, and some back door shinanigans....OH, wait a minute,(for another time and another thread maybe) Anyway, I am glad I have got the old juices flowing with you all though. I can't help but feel that THIS must be part of the plan. If it isn't then Oh, and Legod you are showing your age as it's the Highways Agency now, not the Ministry of Transport.

Sorry to be a bit pedantic but....... There is no such thing as a 'Technicality' in the British Justice System. If there is not a prima facie case then there is no case to answer. In this instance the charges were not able to be proved, therefore he is, to all intense and purposes, not the thieving lying scumbag that we all think he is. Allegedly.

The Sub-Contractors will eat into my budget for the job and reduce the margin, but it will finish within the alloted time, and with minimum defects as they are used to doing this type of works. To finish late will cost me much more, not only financially but with standing with the client. And as it involves those lovely cones on the road, you lot too.

Well, for a Wembly it would cost about £750 million, or a Majeski, (which I worked on in my yoof), cost would be about £50 million. Our Current ground cost us around £33 million, which was about 3-5 miilion too much but that is what you get for employing sweaty socks and pompey labour. I could have resourced that job locally and got it built for love However I would willingly knock of 10 % for cash. And I always wondered why the ladies of the night never offer the same discount, alegedly.

I have passed this onto my estimating department.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, freedom from the Health and Safety at work act. It is very tempting, but no, I don't know if my conscience would let me sleep at night.

That is the point I am making. Lallana and Surman are still here 'because' of the grand plan.

Please, one quarter of my management team are Poles, and half the Subbies boys are East European. And trust me, they aint cheap anymore!!!!!!!

Whilst sitting here in my lunch break and having a heated discussion with my QS, (which is a construction money man, or in my case a woman) and then reading this thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1240 I realised that some of my choices in my job actually reflect some of Lowe and Jans'. Let tell you a quick story. I am on a construction job. I have a limited workforce that are the wrong side of fifty, and a few in experienced youngsters, so I have 'bought in' a number of labourers from a sub-contractor to finish a section of the work. My QS wants to get rid of them all as they are a little expensive, and there are other sites with bigger budgets than mine that want them, as the subbie boys are pretty experienced and work really hard. As I explained politly, if I get rid of them all I will be reliant on older and less experienced operatives and I will not be able to complete on time, within my budget as the quality will go down, and the cost go up. Suddenly I had a bit of a lightbulb moment. Now, I don't really like Lowe or Wilde, to be fair, and I am a long way off forgiving or forgetting. But this is my revelation. Just like Saul on the road to Damascus it hit me. If Lowe is the proported financial wizz that he is supposed to be, and Jan is the 'I can work within a shoe string and youngsters to grater glory' master he is supposed to be, doesn't it boil down to the fact that Saints, even though they have to cut costs, would have an EVEN bigger financial problem if they got relegated? Therefore my conclusion is this: Lowe may want to sell all and sundary to make money, and clear debt, but if you reduce the capability of the 'workforce', you reduce the ability to keep to your projected cost target. In other words if the target for Saints is to reduce costs they CANNOT afford to be relegated, therefore a comfortable mid table place would be needed, and you cannot achieve a mid table place in the CC with Div 1 and past their best players. Is this the plan? Is this what they are aiming for? Please discuss using rational, cogent and well thought out constructive remarks. And also please remember, I could build you a bridge/Road/Sewage Treatment Works/Tunnel/House/office block/sports standium etc. any where you like, within time,within budget and with minimum defects, but I can't predict the scoreline on any Saints match in the last year.