OldNick

Tell me other clubs close to administration who have such a good youth system? RL has taken the bull by the horns and taken a brave decision. The romantic opinion people have of NP does astound me. I dont think he was a bad choice but he did flirt with relegation with us.He was helped by the fact we looked doomed after the D&G time and his first results.He made a couple of good loan signings ,something we cant afford now and then stayed up on the last day. Doing the same thing did that make Merrington,Ball, or Dave Jones great managers in our eyes? I dont think so. TRhe debate of course is not about NP, but I dont beleive he would have been a cost effective manager in the situation we are in.Leicester will no doubt walk their league but it wont be down to wheeling and dealing on a shoestring.

BRF, please answer the question I put to Hypo, tell us how you would have cut costs?

Yo umay think its rubbish and I dont a flying ###k if UmP does either. NP was contracted until the end of the season and the option on him was not taken up.He has the best squad in the Div 1 and most of the players are upper CCC quality. NP kept us up by the skin of our teeth, and how we got there is of differing op9inions, he did though employ a keeper and two centre backs( I do note we kept Perry) who were on wages we couldnt in the long run afford. Add to that we dont know what he required from the club to carry on and we also do not know what RL demanded of him. The fact is we were brassic and please tell me how you would have cut the costs and stem the 100-300k a week losses (depending who you take your figures from)

Again I can only point out to the financial costs and I assume that is the reason.The higher pauid 'stars' have performance fees etc and so perhaos that is why they are not turning out.I doubt it is anything more sinister than money that the club cant afford in those contract add ons.

I dont understand that comment Phil.My understanding is that the club still have him as the historian and RL or whoever has tried amke bygones be bygones.Only Duncan knows if that is the case now. I truly hope that RL has come back and tried to open a new page.LM and LC go to SMS still and LM still going is a surprise. Im delighted that is the case as in time perhaps all the old wounds will become faint scars.Too much to hope, but you never know

I notice some are saying if we go down he should take the lions share of the blame.I agree the manager he chose was a risk, but I have yet to see a plan by anyone that could be implimented with our financial predicament. In some ways if we make the PL or or go down, neither can be seen as a complete justification or a mistake.RL was forced to this by finances, although it was something he wanted to try a few seasons back. I will myself take it if we go down 20%will be RL's fault if we make it to the play offs 50% will be to his credit.

Not an unfair summary but the team that did get us to the play offs was ripped apart rather than being built upon.The real sickener for GB was KJ leaving on deadline day, he added so much to the team as well as scoring. Another thing that eroded fans confidence in him was the constant taking up of his alleged drinking, something that has never been proved and whilst I know he does like a drink I also know the nonsense on here was not true. We then had a campaign against certain players that didnt help the players or squads moral. I dont care what people say if the players feel wronged why should they care about giving it all for us. Last season we had JW, KD, JE, and others pilloried and that was always likely to upset the team. I know fans will say they are highly paid but some/a lot was unjust. KD for example played no differently last season than this but fans have seen he is a good keeper and their preducies have been swept away.It is a mindset that grew and became chapter and verse when really it was somewhere in the middle.He did ok under the circumstances, he was never the best manager Saints have had IMO but he is a long long way from the worst.

threads qabout GB always get this site running and so it is a blessing in disguise. GB has been sussed by the Jocks in the main they are wanting to give him time.The fans that travelled pre match were very much still behind him.They could see the injuries he had to deal with.

I have had my run ins with Duncan but know he is honourable. IMO he only posts info because he cares and wants to share with us so we can also have hope that things will indeed get better. Personally I believe he takes his run in with RL too seriously but we are all different. I also have had email contact with him and he was truly helpful in putting me in the right direction regarding some info I needed for here. He said he was stepping back for a time but gave me the impression he would come back on and bring his own style of posting back onto the forum.The sooner the better I say.

if you are fit and under 30 the Government might pay for you to go, they'll give you some nice new boots and uniform and a rifle as well.

To be fair Alpine mentioned a few weeks ago that a report on Killer was similar to when he was injured before.My reports from the club were that he was sore after games but holding up but that seems to have deteriorated since. As for the other bits above. he wants an experienced CB and then complains that GB kept with Claus.GB was told by the medical staff he'd be fit, we also took in Bennett Thomas and Davies. Finally I'll put this question directly to Alpine. You have moved to Austria for betterment or were forced? Can you see what Im saying Davies had a choice stay on an average CCC wage or move closer to his roots and at the same time increase his wages 3 fold and also be involved in the glamour of the PL. Is it not hypocritical to think that Davies would have stayed and not bettered himself for his family like you have done?

That is a disaster waiting to happen, Saintkip must be in a trance.

i married at 23 and have lasted 25 years and had a good time.

I know but it might have taken some wind from the sails

that is one of the most accurate things you have put IMO Alpine

I was nt allowed one of them only spolit kids had those.....ooh

I collected some American clients today and they told me that McCain was now 6 points ahead.The general worry is that McCain is too old and Obama too inexperienced and naive in world politics.

ps id read your book. I read the dross that Boro fan wrote and you would easily beat that.

I think it was on Motd Saints version that was out on video a few years ago.

what about when they were going to be at Wimbledon for the Dellhurst park match. There was 1 of them waiting at their meet up point by the ticket office.The rest never turned up.Dont get me wrong they can/could be handy but they are all talk when they are together and sound when you meet them 1 to 1

I havent quite gone yet as I was hoping one of you would have said to me 'night night hope the bed bugs don't bite',Well they normally say that in a travel lodge it was moi by the way

Off to bed early I have to pick up American clients at Heathrow in the morning.I have enjoyed some of the posts tonight some were really on form.Or was it me

1 more POST left ..get it clever aint it

bugger I cant think of anything..Im licked

lol